I receieved my high stall TC from Edgeracing on friday. The stall is 2800. I will have to put it in professionally because I dont have the right tools, space, or confidence lol. I was just wondering how many hours of labour I should expect. I dont want to be taken for a ride by some mechanic.
PS. I will be doing the install this wednesday. I will keep you guys posted on how the car feels/performs after the install.

 

Very interesting. I would definetly like to know the results and possibly see some updated track times at some point. What kind of $ did you pay for the TC?

 

I had the invoice here somewhere but I cant find it at the moment. Its from the street edge category at www.edgeracingconverters.com. I will get you the price as soon as I can locate the invoice.

 

i'm curious to hear how you perform also. Keep us updated

 

I havent taken my car to the track and I wont be able to do so before the TC installation so I do not know what the improvements will be. I dont have any track times right now. I just dont want to shoot for an unreasonable time and go to the track and be disappointed. Along with the TC I'll have Y-pipe, Stage 2 VB mod, hacked air box + k&n. I'm just curious as to what kind of a time i should be expecting. Man, the things i gotta do just so I can be near a stock 5 speed lol

 

y the hell did u get a tq converter, u will be even slower than stock...u need some serious mods and/or some FI to get the benefits from a aftermarket stall. hench y if u hold the brake and gas in our car from a stop and let off, the car lags for a second. it will be even more of a lag unless u have some hp to back the TQ converter.

 

A properly made/installed torque converter will change the entire dynamic of the car, and really should make the car much faster. Accompanying mods are not necessary.

 

My stall isnt all that high. Its set at 2800. I was looking for something that would allow my car to maintain its streetability to some extent. From talking to Andre, I should get a much better launch with the TC as well as better midrange pull and if I can avoid the lead foot i may even get better gas mileage.

 

Ouch, get rid of the hacked air box. I've got my replacement bottom filter housing on its way now. The hack job does a decent job midrange, but takes way too much away from the low end, especially from a standstill. Might not have been so noticeable on a manual, but made my auto noticeably slower. K&N will stay a little cleaner that way too.

 

[QUOTE=Cosmo459sx]Ouch, get rid of the hacked air box. I've got my replacement bottom filter housing on its way now. The hack job does a decent job midrange, but takes way too much away from the low end, especially from a standstill. Might not have been so noticeable on a manual, but made my auto noticeably slower. K&N will stay a little cleaner that way too.[/QUOTE

You're probably right but my butt dyno didnt really see any loss in low end power. I didnt really feel any gains either. I didnt cut that big of a hole in the bottom filter housing and i still have the resonator between the maf sensor and the accordian piece. I will keep it as it is for now but once i get some track times, I'll get a replacement bottom housing and see if it makes any difference at the track. Thanks for the input tho.

 

Don't talk

 

Welcome to the club. Mine's a 3000RPM-stall Edge, installed about one month ago.

Driving it is OK - launching is a lot different than stock. Launching with spray on DRs is really fun. Enjoy.

 

AWESOME!
keep us updated. and find that invoice!
woooooooo

 

Thank you. Did you do the install youself? If not, then how much did it cost you to get it put in? I've been calling around and it seems as though the average time estimated is between 4-7 hours of labour.

 

Found the invoice. CAD $619 shipped and I had to also pay taxes and duties. Still an amazing deal considering what some other places are charging.

 

I like The idea of the tq. But i notice no part numbers on the site. How did you go about ordering one.
Wher you get to the track def. post some numbers up. I would imagine a better 60 ft time at least. I would imagine it runa lil quick than you did before.

 

r u serious? so instead of adding something worth while to the post u write "don't talk" is that maybe because i am right? u will lose the low end edge at the track and the extra umpf u need to get the car rolling. i was told this by level ten themselves when i went to get bullet proofing done. theres no point on a basically bone stock motor for 600 bux u can get a nitrous kit and be pullin out better times, than with a friggin 2800 rpm stall converter, not to mention the installation. if ur gunna take the trans down for the tq converter u might as well save the extra beans and do the bullet proof or an lsd or something while its down. u obviously have some plans for the car if ur putting in a tc, not many people do it just for the hell of it.

 

Price is $431 US plus shipping and you don't have to send in a core like some companies.

Call them talk to Andre and he will ask you a bunch of questions about HP, et, driveability etc and from the questions he will suggest a stall etc for your application. Each converter is created for the client they are not just sitting on the shelf with different stalls etc. Takes up to a week to do the work and ship.

A converter is very easy to install, its removing the engine and trans thats the hard part. Much easier to remove both, separate, install conveter and reinstall than to try and take the trans out separately.

 

Maybe the guy is taking baby steps. I know that a stall convertor is a big part having a succesful launch of the line. It can improve your 60 ft imes and overall performance at the track. I would imagine it would do the same on the road. A stall convertor is not gonna hurt his overall performance. It would be nice to have FI but lets face it. Its not that easy. Yeah NOS is a quick and easy power adder but it does more harm over time than a t.c. I know I would def. do a stall once I figure out my drivetrain setup.

 

I had the Edge installed while I was having some other work done w/engine and drive train, so I don't have any idea of the cost of just having the Edge installed. Sorry....

I hope you do have other upgrades installed - you can get a stronger launch with the Edge, but at a minimum you'll need stickier tires. These converters are intended for much-modified engines.

 

Creative guy, you've been reading stupid street magazine to much. Do you have an automatic? If you do then you'd know about how bad it bogs off the line. When i've been at the track the highest i could stall before i lurched forward was round 1000 RPM. The 2800 stall will help launching considerably. Specially if he pairs it with some drag radials or some sticky street tires. Plus you don't know if the guy is planning to do more to his car (nitrious, S/C?) so calling it stupid isn't the smartest thing to say. I agree with the LSD though. That would be a nice addition.

 

I cant do every mod I have in mind all at once. Basically all i'm doing right now is getting my tranny ready for the next step I have in mind which is a vq35 swap. As far as losing the low end edge goes, I was told other wise by Andre. Its actually supposed to improve. On part throttle I believe that it will be softer but at WOT there should be improvement. With the vq35 swap my stall will go a bit higher too because of the increased torque so its all good. One step at a time....

 

I believe my car has LSD. 99 ES. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

(hey what is limited slip diff.?) fine...i'll google it.
but what is a BULLET proof tranny? thats not an item, thats like building up the transmission right?
i'm considering a high stall and a vq35 as well, far into the future with the 35 depending on the deals i see though.
but yeah, anyone who doesnt know about these TC's should refrain from commenting and confusing people who are interested in them. i cant tell whether its beneficial or not worth it. i guess i'll have to wait for whlimi to give feedback.
im excited to hear about it though.

 

Bullet proofing your tranny is basically building it up to handle more power/stress. I was considering bullet proofing mine but when you think about it there's no need until you actually HAVE to rebuild your tranny. Check out Level 10 for more info. A TC is going to be beneficial regardless of whether I have a vq30 or a vq35. Anytime you can get more power to the wheels rather than lose it in the drivetrain is going to be a bonus. These converters are supposed to be more efficient than stock ones. As far as the vq35 swap goes, I'm saving up for it right now and I'm also looking for someone in Toronto or surrounding areas who knows the swap procedure.

 

well i'm gonna research some more about all of that. i didnt realize you had to take out the engine and tranny to put it on. i hope installation isnt too much $$

 

yes i do have an automatic, its actually in the process of being taken out to be brought to maximum tuning for full bullet proofing and LSD . i guess i just didnt understand what i was told by level ten when i spoke to them. as of right now i have a stage 2+ valve body, upgraded r axles, and a 75 shot, i really dont bog much out of the hole

 

How much are they charging you for the bullet proofing?

 

You can find VLSD transmissions in the lower 48 mostly from Infiniti I30t's. I got mine w/37K miles for $800. You'll need the driver's side axle as well. Canadians seem to already have factory VLSDs in most Maxes - lucky, eh?

I ran most of the last track season w/VLSD and the drop-resistor mod and launches w/DRs were good. Hitting spray after getting to 3000 RPM was much better - both tires pulled together. Now, launching with the Edge at 2500/2800 directly into spray(50-shot) is REALLY fun! After the 1-2 shift, I spray the second-stage of 50 or 75-shot, and the tranny shifts 1-2 firm and fast, then 2-3 the same way. Funny - my tranny seems to shift 1-2 at 6300 RPM or higher now.

P.S. VLSD is the factory Viscous Limited Slip Differential - car-parts.com shows them as "locking" automatic trannys - factory p/n RE4F04V. They're out there.....

 

How are your launches without spray compared to stock converter? Have you ran a track time with out spray with the Edge converter? Any idea how much the converter improved times by itself?

 

Without spray, I can brake and rev to 2800, then the car is gonna go anyway. If you hold at 2000/2200 and smack the throttle, the car leaps just like you dumped the clutch on a manual. Lots of tire spin - you would need DRs at this point. Some guys manage well with street tires - but not me - too much spin.

Tracks are closed here from November to April, so no runs w/Edge. I have a whole season of experience with the car's present setup, except for the Edge, so I can document any improvements next season. (13.6 ETs last season).

My feeling at this point is that I'll need M&H slicks to launch on spray - the 255x16x50 BFG DRs won't stick well enough, I think, and they put 9.7" on the ground. I'm also hoping the Edge will raise my 1/4 mile speed - the car would never go over 102MPH. Andre thought the Edge would make a couple of extra MPH for me. I know that normal driving is no problem - except for the extra RPM when leaving a full stop.

Next season will be educational.....

 

thank you for some REAL world input!

 

Have you felt any difference in the midrange or upper end? I know our cars need 00vi or mevi for better upper end power but I was just wondering if the converter would help at all...

 

It's hard to tell - The car runs out well on deserted interstate highways ( ! ) and generally hauls azz through the gears, but I can't tell any difference. You gotta go to the track to really measure any changes.

Blasting up through the gears while spraying on those deserted interstates means you're over 110MPH in about 15-16 seconds - no time to judge power...

I've got MEVI, 3" Warpspeed nose to tail, Infiniti VLSD auto, a true cold-air INGEN intake (bottom-of-the-car air intake) dual NX spray (50-shot+75-shot), 15 lb bottle, Walbro 255, AERO FPR, MSD window switches, Illumina struts and lowering springs, 225x16x50 BFGs on ASA 16x7.5" wheels (and matching 255 BFG DRs on the same wheels) and Jbars - so the car scoots purdy well - and looks stock until you lift the hood. No weight reduction - I run with the spare at the track.

Andre of Edge Converters said the car will pick up some top-end speed and drop a couple of tenths in the quarter, and so far he's been right about stall and launching, so I hope he's right about the rest. He said the stock converter just slips too much at the top end.

I'm very impressed with the new launch - I hope the rest works as well.