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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Glass Headlights!?

I found these on ebay two euro glass headlights for 97-99 Maximas? What do you guys think legit? Or is it like all the other ebay crap out there. It would be awesome if these are legit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96...QQcmdZViewItem
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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It SEEMS to be legit. Only glass A32 headlights I knew about up to this point, though, were 95/96 US and the 2-piece Cefiro's.

Keep in mind this says "Euro." If they are indeed European headlights, and he's not referrng to "Euro style" headlights, they may be RHD and not really well suited to our cars since the lights are actually aimed a little different.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
It SEEMS to be legit. Only glass A32 headlights I knew about up to this point, though, were 95/96 US and the 2-piece Cefiro's.

Keep in mind this says "Euro." If they are indeed European headlights, and he's not referrng to "Euro style" headlights, they may be RHD and not really well suited to our cars since the lights are actually aimed a little different.
Well 9004 really isnt much of a beam pattern to begin with. The beam pattern is basically a rectangle of light, or what I would say a very large hotspot. I dont even think RHD 9004 would look much different from LHD 9004.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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looks like stock 95/96 headlights to me.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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why would you want glass is what im curious about.
heavy as hell and if you get a chip or worse a crack whatre you gonna do then
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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glass doesn't yellow/get blurry like plastic does. glass will chip less easily than plastic. and they don't break that often, so i wouldn't worry about that.

KSUMAX: these are not stock 95-96 headlights. 95-96 headlights are much less clear than those are. Those are not as clear as 97-99's so it almost seems like a lens in between the two.

With those, it looks like the AE mod wouldn't turn out as well as it would on 97-99's. Therefore, i would say that the best thing to do would just get 97-99 OEM headlights from someone on here, ebay or junkyard.

EDIT: one other thing. if you are so worried about weight reductions, there are much better places to start than with your headlights...
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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why would you want glass is what im curious about.
heavy as hell and if you get a chip or worse a crack whatre you gonna do then
I agree with 86maxima96. In the long run glass lights look much better and don't require any maintanance. I have a 16 yr old car in my garage and its glass headlights look almost brand new. No chips scratches and best of all no yellow stuff. My maxima plastic headlights look like crap even after doing the tiresome headlight cleaning. The difference in weight might be like 2 or 3 lbs at most. Its not like your going to notice the actual difference in weight.
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Looks interesting, the reflector looks very different than the 97-99.
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 86maxima96
Those are not as clear as 97-99's so it almost seems like a lens in between the two.
HUH?!?

97-99s have like 3 or so lines goin through the middle and texture at the top, bottom, and sides.

I do agree however that the AE may look funky. The reflector on the inside of the light is COMPLETELY different than that of a stock 97-99 headlight.
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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If I was rich and had 125 to throw around I would buy them and let you guys know how they are but I don't. Anyone wanna try them out?
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Looks like someone bought them :P. Maybe someone should go email him and ask him how they are after he installs them.
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I think if you can retro it, take the glass out of that headlight, and swap em with oem 97-99, i think it'll look good.
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Originally Posted by nexgenmax
I think if you can retro it, take the glass out of that headlight, and swap em with oem 97-99, i think it'll look good.
Hmm itd be a big hassle, and you'd still end up with the same beam pattern. Too much work id say.
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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I think if you can retro it, take the glass out of that headlight, and swap em with oem 97-99, i think it'll look good.

When you say retro are you refering to just retro fitting the lenses or a projector retro with glass lenses on the OEM 97-99 housings?
I think that would be the nicest setup.
Im sure these will pop up on Ebay again. If they do, I may be doing this setup.
Old Jan 19, 2006 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
When you say retro are you refering to just retro fitting the lenses or a projector retro with glass lenses on the OEM 97-99 housings?
I think that would be the nicest setup.
Im sure these will pop up on Ebay again. If they do, I may be doing this setup.
How would you 'pop' the glass off? Would it come off in the same fashion as the plastic lamps? Heat'em and pull'em away from the goo?
Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron Scimitar
How would you 'pop' the glass off? Would it come off in the same fashion as the plastic lamps? Heat'em and pull'em away from the goo?


They should. The OEM 95-96s do. My last set i did that to them to do the AE mod.
Now I have the 97-99's, but if those glass ones pop up again I may snag a pair.
Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
They should. The OEM 95-96s do. My last set i did that to them to do the AE mod.
Now I have the 97-99's, but if those glass ones pop up again I may snag a pair.
There are several auctions with these lights. Many of them are paired with red/clear taillights, so look for that.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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LHD or RHD lights?? are you kidding?

Originally Posted by Tatanko
It SEEMS to be legit. Only glass A32 headlights I knew about up to this point, though, were 95/96 US and the 2-piece Cefiro's.

Keep in mind this says "Euro." If they are indeed European headlights, and he's not referrng to "Euro style" headlights, they may be RHD and not really well suited to our cars since the lights are actually aimed a little different.
Why would it matter which side the wheel is on, lights are lights, and can be aimed in any direction, if this was true nobody in the U.S could use cefiros because they are RHD cars. That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time, thanks for the laugh I needed it.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
Why would it matter which side the wheel is on, lights are lights, and can be aimed in any direction, if this was true nobody in the U.S could use cefiros because they are RHD cars. That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time, thanks for the laugh I needed it.
Actually my cefiros are LHD. They cannot be aimed in any direction either. Only up and down.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
Why would it matter which side the wheel is on, lights are lights, and can be aimed in any direction, if this was true nobody in the U.S could use cefiros because they are RHD cars. That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time, thanks for the laugh I needed it.
Really? You obviously know very little about the differences between RHD and LHD cars then.

The headlights are made so that they naturally have a tendency to point in a certain general direction to light up road signs as well as avoid blinding oncoming traffic. If you haven't noticed, RHD cars are usually driven on the OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

Glad you got a laugh
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Damn plastic fogginess... they fog up in no time! :-P
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anyone see that GD from custommaxima? they have some diamond cut headlights for 95-99. I should ask if they are plastic or glass. I'm assuming plastic, though. Cheaper, right?
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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my 86 had glass and it sucked. at highway speeds those pebbles break right thru them.
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my 86 had glass and it sucked. at highway speeds those pebbles break right thru them.

i havent seen too many 95-96's have that problem.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
i havent seen too many 95-96's have that problem.

i agree. unless you get a really bad bounce on some sharp rock, 95-96ers don't really have much to worry about. they probably aren't gonna shatter and crack.
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My original headlights never had any issues. I've hit some pebbles at highway speeds, too. To be honest, my windshield would worry me before my headlights.

The glass is pretty thick on the 95/96's too.
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Originally Posted by FLAVOR_24/7
When you say retro are you refering to just retro fitting the lenses or a projector retro with glass lenses on the OEM 97-99 housings?
I think that would be the nicest setup.
Im sure these will pop up on Ebay again. If they do, I may be doing this setup.

I was thinking retro with projectors, sorry i wasn't that clear. but the job has to be really nice and clean, since you pretty much see everything very clearly.

retro fitting into the OEM 97-99 should do it too. beam pattern would be the same, but the reflector will not. since the reflector that pretty much make the look of the headlight.

I'm just curious if it's going to look way better than the plastic OEM, with or without the projector.
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Originally Posted by nexgenmax
I was thinking retro with projectors, sorry i wasn't that clear. but the job has to be really nice and clean, since you pretty much see everything very clearly.

retro fitting into the OEM 97-99 should do it too. beam pattern would be the same, but the reflector will not. since the reflector that pretty much make the look of the headlight.

I'm just curious if it's going to look way better than the plastic OEM, with or without the projector.

I think it would.
If the surface of those in ebay are anywhere near as nice as the ones that Dubbya has, then they would look soooooo sweet with projectors.
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Indeed. The clear glass is teh hotness. I dont have projectors and they look really nice.
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most aftermarket lights have a crappy beam pattern. untill someone buys them and reports performance, they are a waste of money. fitment can be an issue as well as longevity or reliability. TRUST ME. i have had experiance with most brands out there.

LHD:
_/ _/

RHD:
\_ \_

using h4 as a rough pattern (trademark L shaped beam with a sweet cut off).

the "euro" in that auction is a sales pitch. they are not euro at all.... real euro lights are called E code, and i doubt they would be 9004.... the worst bulb in the line up. no e code lights i have seen use anything but H4 style lights.

glass vs. plastic is a tough choice since they both have their pros and cons. i have seen broken glass lights (rocks) a lot, where as the plastic are usually sand blasted and yellow. the plastic ones can be sanded and pretty much clean up fine.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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most aftermarket lights have a crappy beam pattern. untill someone buys them and reports performance, they are a waste of money. fitment can be an issue as well as longevity or reliability. TRUST ME. i have had experiance with most brands out there.

LHD:
_/ _/

RHD:
\_ \_

using h4 as a rough pattern (trademark L shaped beam with a sweet cut off).

the "euro" in that auction is a sales pitch. they are not euro at all.... real euro lights are called E code, and i doubt they would be 9004.... the worst bulb in the line up. no e code lights i have seen use anything but H4 style lights.

glass vs. plastic is a tough choice since they both have their pros and cons. i have seen broken glass lights (rocks) a lot, where as the plastic are usually sand blasted and yellow. the plastic ones can be sanded and pretty much clean up fine.
There are a few headlights out there that have an E-Code but w/o using an H4 bulb. The new Honda Accords for example have a seperate low and high beam and the low beam is a 9006 bulb and has en E-Code, actually a very sharp cut-off for a reflector.
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there are few available now on ebay. here's the link:
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcarlamps
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Originally Posted by maximazation
There are a few headlights out there that have an E-Code but w/o using an H4 bulb. The new Honda Accords for example have a seperate low and high beam and the low beam is a 9006 bulb and has en E-Code, actually a very sharp cut-off for a reflector.
your right but 9006/9005 are far superior to the 9004.
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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The 3rd Generation Maxima has glass headlights, I had one. I sold it to a friend of mine and the headlights still look brand new!!! Damn plastic!!!
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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My 97 4Runner has glass headlights and still after 9 years, the headlights look brand new, they also use H4 bulbs, so beam pattern is also very good, similar to the OEM Cefiros I had on my Maxima, but the cut-off is sharper on the 4Runners.
Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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so has anyone tried these glass ones yet ?
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so has anyone tried these glass ones yet ?
Don't think so. Wish someone would, though.
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Well I bought a pair of these as the headlights on my max are chipped.. the driver-side has epoxy on it. She's a new-to-me ma 96 maxima and i absolutely hate nightime driving with the stock headlights. I was spoiled with my last car, an '88 legend coupe (had 4 bulbs) which lit up the road and more beautifully. Don't get me wrong, I love my maxima but the headlights are garbage. Once I finally get them I'll post pics when i put them in (prolly 1-2 wks) and let you all know of any improved performance. I'll also be replacing the bulbs for both the headlights and the foglights. I plan on getting the silverstars? (sylvania) for the headlights. and some blueish H3's for the foglights.. probably luminics unless ya have any better reccomendations for me. Anyway, I bought these headlights (diff auction on ebay, same seller).
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Well I bought a pair of these as the headlights on my max are chipped.. the driver-side has epoxy on it. She's a new-to-me ma 96 maxima and i absolutely hate nightime driving with the stock headlights. I was spoiled with my last car, an '88 legend coupe (had 4 bulbs) which lit up the road and more beautifully. Don't get me wrong, I love my maxima but the headlights are garbage. Once I finally get them I'll post pics when i put them in (prolly 1-2 wks) and let you all know of any improved performance. I'll also be replacing the bulbs for both the headlights and the foglights. I plan on getting the silverstars? (sylvania) for the headlights. and some blueish H3's for the foglights.. probably luminics unless ya have any better reccomendations for me. Anyway, I bought these headlights (diff auction on ebay, same seller).
Don't get Silverstars, stay with something OEM-ish, like the XtraVisions. Silverstars are garbage for visibility.
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I wish our cars came with H4 instead of 9004. 9004 is the worst thing out there.



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