Hey guys...just wondering...those of you who actually took the chance and bought X-drilled/slotted rotors from eBay, did you have any problem with them cracking on you? I've heard it many times on this forum and from word of mouth that yeah, they're more prone to cracking than ones from a manufacturer like Brembo. But then again, how different could drilling processes be among those who do it?

Anyway, please share you're experiences, advise, etc. My other option is just to suck it up and put the money down for Baer Decelerotors (they're like $207/pair, for both front and back) but man, if the eBay ones are good than I'll just go with them.....

thanks in advance

 

I just ordered some black anti-rust coated cross-drilled rotors from ebay, when they get here sometime next week, I'll get them on and let you know.

 

Mine is from ebay. It's been almost 6 months.. no problems... almost done through winter and still like new.

 

They will be fine unless you do a lot of 150 to 0 stops

100 ppl heard the problem from 1 person and all in a sudden all 100 ppl pretend they had had the same problem and spread it online

 

Mine are fine as well. Mine are zinc coated, which should cut down on rust. No problems with cracking yet. I don't regret buying them at all.

 

i feel that my OEM's had more stopping power and quieter, these look cool but not really happy with the performance. Just my opinion.

btw I have the zinc coated ones too.

 

I have zinc coated ones that I bought from RTP Preformance (I think Automax95 sells them). I got the slotted/dimpled set up. I read lots of problems with cracking due to x drilling so I chose a dimple instead of a x drill. I have had them on my car for a year now and no problems at all. I definately give RTP house brand rotors a

 

I ordered my set from Irotors.com They have the brembos in stock and they cross-drill/slot and zinc plate them. With shipping, stainless steel brake lines, pbr ult ceramic pads (which I would not buy again due to the dusting) I paid 473 us. Lines are dot approved and I've had them on for 2 weeks now. Pads dust like CRAZY. Stopping power is increased due to the new lines and the softer pad compound. ABS does kick in earlier though. My car is a daily driver with NO TRACK TIME. Does it take longer to stop due to the decrease of rotor surface material? Maybe, but with the upgraded lines and pads I don't notice the difference. I was running "Green Stuff" pads before and they stopped pretty good, NO DUST, but they were a little hard on the rotor. Give and take I guess.
Good luck with your decision.

 

I got some cheap ebay ones 120 bucks Cross drilled slotted Zinc coated no name rotors. Had them for alomost 2 years and they are still like new, no warping, cracking, rusting, stop better than oem with axxis pads I think. Do not put metallic pads on them, put ceramic,kevlar,etc., metallic pads are not made for them they are for oem style rotors.

 

Who told you this? I am running OEM Pads on my rotors. Less dust, no squeak, and very little rotor wear.

OEM pads > aftermaket

 

Why would you put oem and cross drilled slotted rotors together, horrible combo for brake pedal feel. I had oem on mine, they had no stopping grip, and dusted alot. I sitched to axxis ultimates and they are so much better, pedal feels solid, little dust, nice grip, rotors still smooth as new with no cracks. Just my opinion on oem vs. ceramic, and several people told me oem pads and cross drilled slotted were not made to be used together.

 

Im pretty sure the several people who you talked to just bought into some marketing hype. The set up I had before the above picture was slotted/dimpled with Axxis Ultimates. Axxis Ultimates will NEVER be on my car again. They are horrible for daily driving. They create 10x as much brake dust, they squeak A LOT later on, they EAT the rotors QUICK. I had to replace my pads and rotors after a year! I have seen several others post the same info. I have also seen the same problems on my friends Prelude. Actual experience > than what I hear people say.

Now if you are going to run on a track then Axxis Ultimates are great. They are made to bite, and do it well. This is where the extreme rotor wear and brake dust happens. I dont run on a track, so I use OEM.

Another thing. Brake pedal feel doesnt come from your pads. It comes from the hydrolic system. The only way rotors and pads are going to affect your pedal feel is if you have warped rotors, or your brakes have fadded from extreme braking. I never felt my OEMs were fading so bad it affected the performance.

 

If you look carefully at the bottom of the rotor in this pic you can see the HUGE lip that was created from rotor wear. This is after exactly one year of A$$is Ultimates being on my car.



I dont know about the rest of you, but I cant really afford to replace rotors every year.

 

looks like I am sticking with OEM pads when I get my rotors

 

I don't beat on my car and the oem's on Cross drilled slotted, not dimpled were horrible, no stopping power. I can take pics of my rotors too with ultimates and no signs of any wear at all, almost a year with them. You probably have or had a slight caliper problem, or low pad when you got that groove because ceramic pads are softer than metallic. Thats why they wear faster, and the squeek is a sign of wear or caliper problem. I only get grooves if my rotors if the pads are gone or caliper is not functioning properly on all my cars and trucks.

For the bad pedal feel that was just the oem pads, feels much better with the axxis. Brand new rotors at the time.

 

Sounds like you know my car better than I do. : ALL of the rotors looked EXACTLY the same. Now with OEM pads I do not have the lip. I dont beat on my car either. The problem wasnt from a low pad. You can see the rotor is not chewed up from running a pad down past the braking material. And like I said I have seen other cars with Axxis Pads on them with the same exact issues I have.

Read here:

http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...&page_number=1

and here:

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...00&postcount=6

and here:

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...9&postcount=19

and here:

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...4&postcount=25

more:

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...2&postcount=33

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...11&postcount=4

I could keep going................

 

I ran OEM pads on my x drilled/ slotted irotrs and they did fine. The stopped perfectly fine.
I had that setup for close to two years with no problems.
Common sense will tell you that a harsher pad will eat up rotors, yes they do bite a lot harder, but also eat the rotor up as a result. The harsher pads do just what they are designed to do, bite, and bite hard. They are also a lot harder, casuing the squeaking and require more time to heat up.
If your autocrossing or etc. where you need that extreme bite then rotor wear is just an expected result.
If your looking for good everday stopping power and long term rotor life there is no reason not to use the OEM pads.
I now have 300z x drilled rotors with OEM pads and they stop fine as well.

 

How are ceramic harsher than metallic it doe not make any sense? Axxis Ultimate wear alot faster, but DO NOT eat up rotors ceramic is softer and thats why they wear faster. Metallic are much harder, thats why they last longer than ceramic. Don't confuse or put in the same category Ferro carbon, kevlar,etc. only ceramic pads.

 

Dubbya......first a honda site?, then a supercharged maxima?, and then a 2002?, than somone w/ them ONLY in front, good try. I am not even clicking on the rest. All I am saying is they are great on my CDS rotors, front and back. I have BBS wheels too so brake dust is not a problem, not anymore than oem.

 

You have proven that your logic is invalid. Dont click the rest of the links it's no sweat off my back. What does it matter what car the pads are on if they all show the same problems? Ceramic is a very hard material that dissipates heat well. Please do not confuse hardness with brittleness. Something can be very hard yet very brittle. Take for instance a diamond. One of the hardest naturally occuring substances, yet you can smash them with a hammer all day long. Another good example would be cast iron. Very hard but again very brittle. They use ceramic tiles on the front of a space shuttle for a reason. If they were soft they would simply just fall apart. Please do some more reading. I have provided proof to back up what I am saying you havent.

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For like the 5th time, they wear faster because they bite harder. Just because a web site says Axxis Ultimates have the lowest rotor scoring of ceramic pads doesnt mean they are soft. They are just softer than other ceramic pads.

 

Sorry, but Dubbya is correct. Ceramic pads are one of the harshest, most aggresive pads out there. OEM 4th gen pads are organic. There not even semi-metallic. Ceramic's with regular braking will warp a rotor in about 3 to 4 months of normal driving.

 

Well mine have not, in about a year, still look brand new. So I know you either did not brake them in properly, or something else. Guess my car is the exception, would never go back, possible Hawk HP, those are another great choice.

 

So to put this thread into context...

Figure out what u like yourself because there is no majority opinion....

 

Do you really believe that a performance pad such as the Metal Master do not wear rotors out faster than an OEM pad?
Even most sites that sell performance pads state that with better performing pads result in more dust, and faster rotor wear.
Were not saying that the Metal Masters dont grab well they do, but at cost of eating the rotors.
You even stated yourself that the Metal Masters wear faster, where do you think all that brake pad material went to if it wasnt taking away some of the rotor material as well?
Here are some sites that bodly state what I did earlier..
http://www.bestbrakes.com/tech.shtml

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=86

Here is a link to a group of individuals that tested various pads, and when testing the Axxis pads, they also stated the above about increased brake dust and rotor wear.
http://home.nc.rr.com/mwhitney/technical/brakes.html


Its really just common sense that a performance pad will do just as it claims, perform greater then the OEM pad but at the cost of the rotors. For everyday driving the OEM pads are just fine and the x drilled/ slotted rotors do very little. Unless being used for track use, they are mainly for looks.
If your really concerned about increased braking, dont dwell on pads, get a BBK,......... and some SS lines since i assume you dont have them since you have failed to mention them before.

 

Flavor 24/7 I never said anything you stated, where are the quotes? All I said from the beginning was that oem on CDS rotors stink in comparison to axxis ultimate ceramic on CDS rotors,IMHO on a 96I30t. From everything people have told me metallic pads are not made for CDS rotors, they test them on solid rotors, so they perform different on CDS rotors. Last time thats my opinion, thats what the poster wanted I think.

 

here are some...

 

damn... you people need to do some reading before you post anymore...

until you know what you're talking about and can describe the differences in friction coefficients and types of friction between organic, metallic and ceramic pads, as well as their effect on rotors, then PLEASE keep your comments to yourselves.. all you're doing is spreading misinformation.

for reliable pad and rotor descriptions, see some of my previous brake threads.. I've explained the good and bad of each type of pad and also my personal ratings of about 20 different brake pads that I have personally used.

 

Everything I said about ceramic pads on CDS rotors is my experience. All the highlighted red stuff is my experience on my 96 I30t with different pads and explaining to Dubbya how he MIGHT of had a caliper problem or low pad. Because grooves are not on my $120 dollar rotors, almost a year with ultimates and about a year before with oem. I can't help that my brakes work well and don't squeek and dust like others. There are plenty of reasons why brakes don't perform like they should, not broken in properly, not installed correctly, caliper problem, on and on. I like mine and will probably get another set if I still have the car and would recomend to other with CDS rotors.

 

I bought those drilled rotors on ebay year ago and have had no problems so far. I have them on my Camry for 20000 miles and they look awesome too so far so good

 

Brembo blanks are the way to go IMO. Good quality and better than cross/slotted etc.

 

Linky? Maybe it should be a sticky if its not already?

 

i deed so my firend