how many mm did you get to flush your wheels with the wheel wells? im friggin tired of my grand marquis look

 

i have 15mm ones. only to clear myu brakes.....but they bring the wheels nice and flush...but offseet of wheels will determine that....just measure it

 

i have 18's for the summer but they still hide under the wheel well..

 

i think the fronts wheels are as far out as they need to be stock

consider a 10mm spacer in the rear to equal out the look; when i had the wilwood BBK on the front i went with a 5mm spacer and thought that it looked better stock

 

do u have pics of ur max with the spacers on?

 

the offset for my 18's is 48.. now how big can i go to flush both the frnt and back wheels together? any opinions?

 

Hey man, there are several factors to consider.

1. Wheel width
2. Wheel offset
3. How far out you want them to be
4. Whether you want the fronts and rears to be the same or not

Keep in mind that on the 4th gen Max, the rear hubs are tucked in about 1/2" more on each side than the fronts. This is true of a lot of FWD cars, supposedly it's to help prevent hydroplaning but I doubt it makes much difference. Anyway, all other things being equal, 15mm additional wheel spacing in the rear is just about right to even out the front and back. Then the only question is the offset and the width of the wheel.

My 17x8s have a +40mm offset. If you have +48mm offset, that means your wheels are tucked in 8mm MORE than mine. The lower the positive offset, the farther out the wheels are. +35 to +40 is what's usually recommended. So what I'd suggest, assuming your rims are 7.5" or 8" wide, is that you get 5mm spacers in the front and 20mm spacers in the rear. Just to make it clear, if you have +48mm rims and put 20mm spacers on, that's equivalent to a wheel with a +28mm offset (48-20=28). I don't know to what extent wheel width really affects this, but if you think about it, a 6.5" wide wheel with a +45 offset (stock offset) is not going to stick out as far as an 8" wheel with a +45 offset.

Get H&R or Eibach, but I have H&R and they are very very high quality so I recommend them. The 15mm and wider spacers come with the extra long studs that you need and you will have the peace of mind that comes with buying a high quality product. There aren't many places that sell good spacers but I found that www.optauto.com has the best prices on them. Trust me, I did a lot of research on spacers before I bought them. I was even considering having custom spacers machined but I'm very happy with the H&Rs.

If you have a big drop and push the wheels out far enough (especially the rear) you will need to get your fenders rolled by a good body shop to prevent rubbing.

I've got some shots of my car with 15mm spacers in the rear on my site if you want to see them, scroll halfway down this page: http://www.vquick.net/gallery/v/fall05

 

i def want them to be the same, i checked optauto and the spacers they have for the maxima specify front for the sizes id like..can i simply use em for the rear vquik?

 

yes u can use them on the rear as well

 

The only thing you need to worry about is the "shoulder of the stud". It only seems to be an option for the 15mm spacers, where they have two separate parts, one with 12.85 shoulder of the stud and one with 14.25 shoulder of the stud. You want 14.25mm shoulder, so you might want to call their 800 number and make sure that the ones you want both have 14.25 studs.

I assume you know that you want 5x114.3 bolt pattern. And no one makes 10mm spacers because that wouldn't work. The 5mm spacers use the existing hub, 15mm and up have a sort of lip of their own machined to accept the wheel, but if you made that any thinner than about 12mm it wouldn't be strong enough, hence the gap between 5 and 15mm.

For the front wheels, if you're getting 5mm spacers you don't need and they don't come with new studs. Keep in mind that your lug nuts will be sunken in 5mm, though, unless you're able to find new studs that are exactly 5mm longer than the stock studs.

 

Vquick..thanks for all the help i appreciate it will post pics when dropped and spaced

 

Hey VQuick.. i have a quick question for you.. i have been thinking about getting these for my car.. i want to acheive the flush look like in your pictures, accept with stock wheels.. what size do you recommend? 5 in the front, 15 in the rear?? also will i to need the 14.25 studs compared to your 99?? what kind of prices did you pay for these?? thanks in advance.. you seem to have a lot of knowledge on this..

 

1 inch in the rear to get them to flush with the fender. Stock 5 spokes.

 

wow, a whole inch? i've heard that spacers can be unsafe, but that is probably when people don't replace the studs, right? if the studs are replaced to be the equivalent of stock studs, they should be perfectly fine, right?

 

they can be bad if yes u dont use longer studs...but most of the larger spacers come with studs that usually go into the spacer and then u attach the spacer using factory studs.....or if they arent hub-centric and people dont use centering rings...or u use a cheap spacer....H&R and Eibach are highly recommended

 

great info here guys, i have the same 17s that MaximaSE96 has and i want to push them out since i have my rear innerfenders rolled.

 

do you have spacers already on your car (in your sig pic) or do the G35 rims automatically flush out like that??

ok what if i just wanted to get my rear wheels to the same offset as my fronts.. so they are both the same.. what size spacers would i need in the rear for that (with stock wheels)??

 

no spacers pure hot sauce! haha

they are 18x8 with a +30 offset

 

Yeah, that looks about right for 8 inch wheels with +30. Actually, I'm thinking the 3rd gen rear hubs might not be tucked in so much because I have 8 inch wheels with +40mm offset – 15mm spacer = +25 and mine don't stick out quite that far.

Triple G, how much did it cost to have the fenders rolled and do you have any close ups? Nice website, BTW.

 

First of all 97-99 Maximas are identical for our purposes here. If you are on stock 97-99 SE rims, those are 6.5 inches wide with a +45mm offset so it takes quite a lot to get them truly flush. Your best bet in my opinion would be to get 5mm spacers for the front and 20mm or 25mm for the rear. The front will not stick out far enough with 5mm but 15mm would probably be too much (there's no way to make a 10mm spacer for technical reasons).

Here's a great write-up on installing 20mm H&R spacers in the rear of a 5th gen which I found very helpful. Look at the before and after pictures at the end, you'll see that even after the 20mm spacers the stock 17x7s are not flush but they're close and it looks so much better than without spacers.

http://home.insightbb.com/~davidwhon...cer/spacer.htm

1 inch spacers is pushing what I'd consider. The farther out you put the wheels, the more strain there is on the wheel bearings. 15-20mm probably won't matter a huge amount, and you do get a small handling benefit with the wider track so it's worth it. If you're using H&Rs or Eibachs they come with high-quality studs so don't worry about them.

 

BTW, one thing that write-up does not mention is that you should place a small block of wood on the studs before you whack them with a hammer--otherwise you'll damage the thread at the end of the stud. If you don't care about the old studs then it doesn't matter. They're $3 each at your local dealer or about $1.50 each online if you ever want to go back.

 

i had a local (when i lived in toledo, ohio) guy do it. he has been doing body work on cars for about 15 years. He actually did it for free when i had a couple spots redone (paint). I wouldnt rub if it wasnt so low, but over bumps it rubbed ever so slightly so i had him roll them. If i stick with this car ill do something to it down the road, but for now id just like to push out my 17s. thanks for the compliment on the website. your car is def. kickass. and your website is pretty slick man! nice.

my 17s are a 7 inch wide wheel and are a +40 offset so if im doing my math right i need a 15mm spacer to be right at the same spot?

 

Hmm that's a tough question. Logically speaking, an 8" rim with a 40 offset will stick out 0.5" farther than a 7" rim with a 40 offset (since half the extra width will be on the inside--this is just my assumption). And if your 8" rim had a 30 offset, you need the additional 10mm as well. That would mean you need 22.7mm spacer on your 17x7s to match how flush your 18s were. One thing that may or not be a factor is different wheel designs, as I said I'm not sure.

1 inch = 25.4mm.

 

opt auto doesn't have H&R wheel studs. I assume we would want to get H&R branded studs that are 12 x 1.25 right? If not please let us know!

Also, do we want rounded seat or tapered seat studs?



where is the best place to get the studs? (assumming option auto for the spacers.)


FYI, I have a 4th gen with 2002 wheels (6 spoke without exposed lug nuts) and am planning on getting 20mm spacers in the rear and 5 up front.

thanks.

 

Yes, 12x1.25 is the thread, but there are two stud shoulder sizes: 14.25mm and 12.85, I'm pretty sure you want the 14.25 but you'd better double check. I don't recall whether they are tapered or rounded.

Am I missing something? The H&R studs come with the H&R spacers. Unless you are getting the 5mm spacers, in which case you don't absolutely need new studs.

 

http://www.optionsauto.com/prodinfo....mber=HR4065662

check it out, it looks to me like you have to buy it seperately

 

No, you gotta read more carefully. They put the generic H&R spacer description up on the page for each application. The DR series don't come with studs but the ones we need are the DRS series, which comes with studs.

"DRS Series (10-40mm Track widening) This spacer is fitted between the wheel and hub, exchanging the existing wheel studs for longer ones. The wheels are then fitted to the hub/spacer with the existing wheel nuts."

Go to the H&R website and read about the DRS series, it will say they come with longer studs. Also, I just bought these exact spacers from the exact same store a year ago and they came with studs, so yes, they come with studs.

 

hmm. I'll check it out. Thanks!