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Old 02-10-2006, 09:41 AM
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Which mod yields better (if any) performance gains?

1). A hacked stock airbox with a K&N drop in

2). A venturi ring adapter with cone filter, yielding stock midpipe (Stillen type)

Personally, I've found that the more you hack the airbox, the slower and louder the car is. I can't go back to stock intake, because the downstream sensor code is thrown with stock intake post-highflow cat install. If I keep hacked intake or equivalent, it doesn't throw the code (strange).
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super charger and turbo would both add performance. so would headers
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Originally Posted by descent
super charger and turbo would both add performance. so would headers

If I had the means to add such I wouldn't be asking about simple intake mods, but thanks for the worthless response.
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Why do you people have to be such harda$$es?
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That was a sarcastic reply more than anything else. Like asking someone if they like your maxima and getting "a 911 Turbo would be much faster" as a response. I just wanted an answer/help with the original question, which neither of you have attempted to do.
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#1 would seem to be the better choice of the 2

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Why do you people have to be such harda$$es?
i have to say it so here goes: u gotta understand in reality or cyberspace, everybody tries to be sweet. u might not have noticed, but the org is populated by the very stewards of hilarity itself!! : often its like but i guess its an attempt at lightening up everyones mood with underdeveloped social skills, or simply what childish thing they find amusing...like saying blue when someone asks u wut flavor you want. the point is dont get bent out of shape by dumb jokes and be glad someone took the time to answer ur question. i mean dam everybody chill.
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I have try'd the hacked box, mass air adapter and k/n cone also an ingen cai which I have now and what worked the best is the stock airbox not hacked with a k/n air filter. The ingen looks great makes cool sounds I did gain top end power but loss bottom end torque hope this helps
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im not trying to be a troll. i dont live under a bridge and i do have respect for people online. i apologize. what i meant was that you get what you pay for. there are no simple 100-200 dollar mods that will get you performance that wont take away from something else. if you want performance, put your money into something that will really work. dont waste time/money on little mods that will probably all add up to that one big one. again, im sorry.
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I would tell you to go back to stock, but since you can't, do the popcharger.
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
I would tell you to go back to stock, but since you can't, do the popcharger.
Yeah, I hear what you guys are saying, and I probably would go back to stock w/ K&N if it wouldn't throw codes (given the high flow cat). I guess I'll try the stillen/pop intake, unless I can figure out how to bypass the 0510 code. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Cosmo459sx
1). A hacked stock airbox with a K&N drop in

2). A venturi ring adapter with cone filter, yielding stock midpipe (Stillen type)

Personally, I've found that the more you hack the airbox, the slower and louder the car is. I can't go back to stock intake, because the downstream sensor code is thrown with stock intake post-highflow cat install. If I keep hacked intake or equivalent, it doesn't throw the code (strange).

My money is on the POP charger (2).
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Old 02-11-2006, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by descent
im not trying to be a troll. i dont live under a bridge and i do have respect for people online. i apologize. what i meant was that you get what you pay for. there are no simple 100-200 dollar mods that will get you performance that wont take away from something else. if you want performance, put your money into something that will really work. dont waste time/money on little mods that will probably all add up to that one big one. again, im sorry.
umm what about a y pipe....its simple and could be had for 160 from warpspeed last time i checked with them.
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Old 02-11-2006, 06:44 AM
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biggest gains:Id go pop charger(keep stock mid pipe), y adds 15 hp, there the 00Vi(reading about it please), ecu/adjusting A/f. Then of course N20, turbos, supercharger. Full exhaust is very nice and really works well together but course if you start boosting, then exhaust helps more and more. Most of it is reading and getting the work done, asking a lame questions will get you slap, mentally torture and you will end up at the same spot.
Best Site:http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php
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Originally Posted by Cosmo459sx
If I had the means to add such I wouldn't be asking about simple intake mods, but thanks for the worthless response.
yes!




I'm considering adding an air scoop coming from the front air dam of my I30 to come striaght up to my injen CAI for a sort of direct air flow intake unit. also thinking about adding a fat k&n barrel filter to the bottom. I'm planning on taking out my lower signal lights and doing an air cooled braking system. questions/comments welcome
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you would get more gains if u lost the cai. well now its gunna get wet if u take out one of those lights, loose the 2.25 inch exhuast and go 2.5. 2.25 is small as hell for a v6. you will also gain more power if u get rid of those heavy *** motegi rims
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I'd put a K&N in and reverse the housing and zip tie the filter in... someone else did it too it looks sweet
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Originally Posted by nismos14
I'd put a K&N in and reverse the housing and zip tie the filter in... someone else did it too it looks sweet
thats a pretty good idea come to think of it +1 to you sir
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what kind of k&n are you guys using? flat stock style or cone?
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flat stock is the way do go with the hacked airbox mod
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i have had the JWT pop charger and i switched to the hacked air box to try it out.....i liek it much better....feels smoother and feels better inthe LOW* end says the butt dyno...duno how true it is though
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Old 02-14-2006, 05:07 PM
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I've got the K&N panel filter, stock airbox and Budget stainless steel y-pipe and it works for me. I'm not into noise. I feel the engine is more responsive with the K&N filter and I don't think its placebo effect. I had it a couple of weeks before I got the y-pipe and I noticed a difference under WOT at mid to high RPMs.
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I have a dual MAF intake set-up, one with Franken Car and one with the Stillen POP. I think it gave me about 12 whp, (6 each)
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how much power would just a k&n flat filter add? i mean just if you put it in the stock airbox?
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they claim it adds up to 10%, so like 18hp. I definitely noticed a huge difference in power and throttle response when I installed mine, but I can't be sure how much as I've never had it on a dyno. I noticed a bigger difference from stock with the K&N than I did when I installed the y-pipe (K&N already in at this point). Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by triumphD6
they claim it adds up to 10%, so like 18hp.
Wouldn't that be 19?
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The K&N panel filter won't even gain 1hp, they just provide a little bit more airflow.
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
The K&N panel filter won't even gain 1hp, they just provide a little bit more airflow.
What happened to the 10%?
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
What happened to the 10%?
the tornado will save you 33% on gas mileage....what happened to that?
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Originally Posted by ManualMaxima
the tornado will save you 33% on gas mileage....what happened to that?
So we would have 43% more effeciency if we use both the K&N and turbonator?
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what about if we got one of those cone filter things to put on the end of the stock pipe where the airbox is? do they add horsepower and efficency?
what would be better, this setup, or the flat k&n filter in stock airbox.
thanxs guys
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If you had a cone attatched to the stock box, then this would almost double filter area. This will provide more power and with the turbonator, fuel economy will shoot through the roof IMO.
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i meant a cone at the end of the y pipe and a hacked stock box. would this really help? would it not be bad at all? im prolly gonna get a turbonator also.
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If the y-pipe doesn't ignite the filter material you might be ok.
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If the y-pipe doesn't ignite the filter material you might be ok.
lol you got too much time in your hands... be nice to newbies.

you made him want to buy a turbonator....... and put a cone at the end of y pipe...
 
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OMG!! Cone on y-pipe!!
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Wouldn't that be 19?
Yeah, 19. I forgot if the stock hp was 180 or 190.
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Old 02-15-2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
The K&N panel filter won't even gain 1hp, they just provide a little bit more airflow.
No way. It may not be the 19 hp as K&N claims, but its definitely more than 1. My car had noticibly more "pop" after I put it in. Same results with my bike too. Much different.
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my bad. i dont know this stuff that well. i am a newbie at this. i didnt mean y pipe i meant stock intake pipe.
does anybody know how well a short ram intake works? with this do you have to take the stock airbox and ram air scoop thingy out? thanx
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