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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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I guess theres a possibilty of that happening. I could always put that mesh screen on the bottom like someone mentioned before. We do have some big a$$ rats here in the city. No snakes though.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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i will be doing something similar to this during spring break
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Yeah I think I'm gonna try some sort of setup too.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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i will be doing something similar to this during spring break
Let me know if you need help setting it up. I'm thinking about getting that K&N filter off ebay. But not using the pipe that comes with it.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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how much trouble to start the hose at the drivers side foglight and run it up. would be out of the way of radiator and fans ! good work aj
thats exactly what I did. I barely fit a 2 1/4 inch dry vac hose behind the battery. There's not alot of room back there. The hose does a 90 down and a 90 to where the fog light would have been, I should get some pictures but I don't have a digital camera. I'm thinking about relocating the battery to run somthing bigger, but I have to research more into that.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Well I finally took my new setup to the track. And yes it actually made a difference. I ran my PB of 15.01. In addition to the intake setup I added a grounding kit and I took my back seats out.
Thats a pretty big difference. I'd bet most of the gain came from taking out the back seats though
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Thats a pretty big difference. I'd bet most of the gain came from taking out the back seats though
I dont think the seats made that much of a difference. On one of my runs I had my GF in the car with me and ran a 15.1. And she weighs about what I do.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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have you had a major tune up since your last runs? The 15.8. Are you still auto? I didn't even see that you were a GLE, if so that is pretty sweet for a y and intake
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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That ducting you added is not going to do anything for your time, let alone drop it fomr a 15.4 to a 15.1. Your time dropped because you took out your seats and possibly because of outside conditions, (temperature, track, your launch/reaction time). The intake is probably only sucking a very small ammount of the air in that ducting, if any.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zander
have you had a major tune up since your last runs? The 15.8. Are you still auto? I didn't even see that you were a GLE, if so that is pretty sweet for a y and intake
Nope no tune up at all. Just change my oil regularly and use 93 octane. I actually forgot to clean my throttle body the day before. And yes I'm still auto.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Vlasic
That ducting you added is not going to do anything for your time, let alone drop it fomr a 15.4 to a 15.1. Your time dropped because you took out your seats and possibly because of outside conditions, (temperature, track, your launch/reaction time). The intake is probably only sucking a very small ammount of the air in that ducting, if any.
Well before the duct I couldnt get below 15.4 and when I add it it goes down to 15.0. Does anyone know the aproximate weight of the back seats? I ran with my GF to see if my wieght reduction had anything to do with the times and it wasnt much. I'm sure the seats dont wiegh 140 pounds.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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jeeez, please tell me there's a reason other than the ducting the time dropped 0.3 seconds. if not, then i'm gonna have to do this.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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jeeez, please tell me there's a reason other than the ducting the time dropped 0.3 seconds. if not, then i'm gonna have to do this.
For my 15.4 run I left it in drive, kept the backseats in and didnt have the duct. The 15.0 run I powershifted, had the backseats out, added the duct and a grounding kit.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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I will be back at the track around the 26th of march and will remove the duct for a couple of runs to see the difference. Even if it's just a tenth of a second difference for $7 that aint bad.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Run the car the exact same way you ran it with the 15.4 time that will give the best results
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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hmm I had the same type of setup, but when it rained I ended up with water around my filter. Also once I had it connected to my filter and it drew water in and my engine stalled. Thank god that it didn't get too much in my engine. Not a really smart idea, but hey, experiment won't hurt too much.
Old Mar 7, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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Have you tried this?
LOL

Old Mar 7, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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I'm going to pipe in with some knowledge that I have.

My friend and I did a tutorial on an insultated CAI, and we too use drier hose (and some insulation that makes the Rx-7 1st Gen airbox look like a Jiffy Pop Popcorn popper, but I digress).

We routed ours around the radiator and then use plastic tubing in front of the rad to get fresh air.

The difference between insulated and uninsulated ducting is HUGE when it comes to returning the intake charge to ambient.

At a stop light, waiting for 2 minutes, the uninsulated CAI, due to heat soak, took 10 minutes to return to ambient. The insulated CAI took about 15 seconds...

So, the insulation isn't bad, but like others here, I'd much rather see you route it around the rad (tricky without cutting metal in the Maxima) than hang it low where it could pick up squirrels and road debris

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Good call pratch. I'm gonna go to Home Depot soon and look at some stuff. I think I'm gonna try the insulated duct but run it different to a good spot. Maybe like ceasar had mentioned.
Old Mar 7, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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The Ducting idea has been low buck tech for fox body mustangs for years, as in mid to late 80's. Nothing new.

Shop Vac-turbo idea....

go for it so I can link my friends for a good laugh.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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i bet the grounding kit is what made the real difference, it might've made your auto shift more crisply
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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looks good man. u should check out spaniard's cardomain, he has a bigger custom CAI setup...
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Originally Posted by acidspit86
i bet the grounding kit is what made the real difference, it might've made your auto shift more crisply
I dought it. I found out last week it was connected incorrectly. I went out to the car and tryed to start the car one morning and nothing happened no noises no nothing. I got a jump and road around the block for a little while and when I parked and began rolling up my windows the car shut off. So I unhooked the grounding kit because that was the only thing it could have been since I havent messed with anything else and the car started up with no problems.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by happyricefob
looks good man. u should check out spaniard's cardomain, he has a bigger custom CAI setup...
Yeah that is a much bigger and better setup. Looks like it was very well planned out and I'm sure its increasing his power alot more than mine.
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You guys got the link to spaniards cardomain?
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Whats his actual .org name?
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Whats his actual .org name?
It's "Spaniard."
Anyways AJcool, when you feel the air filter after driving, is it cooler than usual?
Old May 19, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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The problem you will have is that there is very little air pressure UNDER the car given the amount of air flow ABOVE the car.

THINK AIRPLANE WING.

I suggest that you move the duct opening up to the front of the car through the bumper space. I'd also put a mesh screen in front of the opening to keep out debris.
Old May 19, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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I did something similar in my GTI where I ran 3" ducting from the OEM airbox to the lower grille, and it definitely made a difference. I might try the same idea on my Maxima, but I'm not sure where I can run the ducting to to get the most air.
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WTF is wrong with you this posts been dead for a while..
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Originally Posted by Apparition
WTF is wrong with you this posts been dead for a while..
Don't look at me!
Old May 20, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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It's like a blast from the past We were doing this mod 5 to 6 years ago. Even I tried it. It did nothing. Believe me, I tried every intake setup imagineable including POP/w resonator, POP/no resonator, CAI, stock hacked air box w/resonator, stock hacked airbox/w resonator, and plus various pipes funneling air in and around the filter. After about 4 years of racing and about 120 passes is varying conditions, the best intake set up as verfiied by slips and OBDII datalogging, was the stock hacked airbox/w resonator.

The reason this guy went faster was because of better conditions. The intake, ground wires, and lack of rear seat did nothing. If he posts the full slips and dates, I'm sure he'd prove me right. This is all assuming he's running at the same track.
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WTF is wrong with you this posts been dead for a while..

So has your brain, apparently.
Old May 20, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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This is already built into our stock airbox the snorkel sitting above the radiator so I dunno what your getting at
yeah i took that off... sounds beef-ier
Old May 20, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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thats retarded!
Old May 20, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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love the intake idea... and I LOVE that eyelid of urs.. very unique... how u do it?
Old May 20, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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its really not going to make a difference, for one the amound of airflow through that tube is minimal, plus the cone filter is going to suck hot air still.
Old May 20, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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dude, that aint gonna do much. i did this same mod many years ago on a camry. i used flexible pipe from home depot, (like dryer duct). all u'll get is a bunch of road debris flying up w/ no gains. only if its connected like a cai will u get any real gains.
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i really doubt that will work



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