Custom cold air?
03-13-2006, 04:43 PM
#1
Custom cold air?
Anybody taken off the stock air box and run pipes down for a custom cold air? I was in pepboys getting some stuff the other day and saw some stuff that maybe could do this. Any threads or such?
03-13-2006, 04:51 PM
#7
Originally Posted by Tatanko
Talk to me in a couple days. I'm waiting for a filter and MAF adapter to arrive, and I'll begin a project...
^Take that as a hint
^Take that as a hint
03-13-2006, 04:56 PM
#10
Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
Tatanko, you really should use a steel mesh filter, they get so much air in.
EDIT: From tests I've seen, they don't do a much better job on getting air in, and are typically poorer at filtering. I'll stick with paper for now...
03-13-2006, 05:22 PM
#11
Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
You should also check this out.
I love the posts that say "read stickies"...it's just a waste of time to write that. It takes just as long to post the thread where its from and even better....it takes less time to not write a stupid response! haha maybe its just me
03-13-2006, 05:34 PM
#12
Originally Posted by Cdg2125
I've already posted in that thread. That's where I got this idea. Instead of running duct to the stock air box, I wanted to take it off and run piping down and put the filter on the end.
03-13-2006, 05:39 PM
#14
Originally Posted by Cdg2125
Not really sure yet but somewhere lower for better cold air access.
03-13-2006, 05:45 PM
#15
Originally Posted by Tatanko
Take a lesson from my recent R&D...keep the piping as short and bend-free as you can. Down low is a good place for cold air, but likewise it's a good place to pick up water. Weigh your pros and cons.
03-13-2006, 06:06 PM
#17
Originally Posted by Cdg2125
True, but where else could I run for cold air?
Originally Posted by jvelos3
You just need to drill a 3.5 inch hole next to the battery.
03-13-2006, 06:15 PM
#18
Originally Posted by jvelos3
why dont you just go on ebay and by a cai. They have the place racing style ones for about $30. Its not hard to put it in. You just need to drill a 3.5 inch hole next to the battery.
03-13-2006, 06:25 PM
#20
Originally Posted by zander
what about something like the 350z? with the filter sitting vertical instead of flat? hmm... wheels are starting to turn in my head...
03-13-2006, 06:31 PM
#21
more direct flow into the engine, then run a "ram air" to the corner light like tanako is doing, one less 90 before the manifold. I read the 350 intake setup has super high efficiency. Some one said over 100 percent, so boosted essentially?? And they have the filter sitting vertically, so it can't be a bad thing. The top part of the box shouldnt be a problem, its fitting the bottom with the battery sitting there that could be a problem, might wanna use the lower airbox out of somthing else. I know the altima is the same, filters are the same anyway, but I don't think that will help with space...
03-13-2006, 07:09 PM
#23
Originally Posted by zander
more direct flow into the engine, then run a "ram air" to the corner light like tanako is doing, one less 90 before the manifold. I read the 350 intake setup has super high efficiency. Some one said over 100 percent, so boosted essentially?? And they have the filter sitting vertically, so it can't be a bad thing.
One less 90ş angle? My intake setup will have none
Bends, sure, but no 90's.
03-13-2006, 07:09 PM
#24
Originally Posted by Cdg2125
Last person I checked with on the ebay intakes said that there's wasn't even made correctly for the max. Pipes where bent all the wrong directions. Unless you've got better first hand experience, let me know.
03-13-2006, 07:36 PM
#27
Actually I think the way the intake is set up has alot to do with the efficiency of their overall intake system, on the 350z. The air comes from the front fender and has a straight shot to the tb. I'm sure you've seen one before. The manifold still bends around the same way our manifolds do, but theirs seem to do a full 180 from fresh air to the engine
03-13-2006, 07:40 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Thank you for chiming in sir.
03-13-2006, 07:54 PM
#29
Originally Posted by zander
Actually I think the way the intake is set up has alot to do with the efficiency of their overall intake system, on the 350z. The air comes from the front fender and has a straight shot to the tb. I'm sure you've seen one before. The manifold still bends around the same way our manifolds do, but theirs seem to do a full 180 from fresh air to the engine
Originally Posted by Nissan 6
Yea if you do get another company here were some tests done. You can see how they stack up to the rest http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
03-13-2006, 07:55 PM
#30
Originally Posted by Tatanko
Reason #1 I chose a different route...
I am interested in the final product, mainly because I know its not going end up looking riceboy style and from this point I am wondering how you are going to pull that off. Just dont do a velocity stack......
03-13-2006, 07:58 PM
#31
Originally Posted by Fr33way
So then you have a cut up corner instead of a hole inside the engine bay?
I am interested in the final product, mainly because I know its not going end up looking riceboy style and from this point I am wondering how you are going to pull that off. Just dont do a velocity stack......
I am interested in the final product, mainly because I know its not going end up looking riceboy style and from this point I am wondering how you are going to pull that off. Just dont do a velocity stack......
Riceboy? Ehh...the first prototypes are going to use PVC piping (although painted black and made to look nice in other ways...won't look as bad as you're probably imagining in your head right now). No velocity stack
03-13-2006, 08:00 PM
#32
Originally Posted by Nissan 6
Yea if you do get another company here were some tests done. You can see how they stack up to the rest http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
Any more tests like this?
03-13-2006, 08:03 PM
#33
Originally Posted by Tatanko
The clearance light was an extra one I had laying around with broken mounting tabs (which I fixed), for track use only.
Riceboy? Ehh...the first prototypes are going to use PVC piping (although painted black and made to look nice in other ways...won't look as bad as you're probably imagining in your head right now). No velocity stack
Riceboy? Ehh...the first prototypes are going to use PVC piping (although painted black and made to look nice in other ways...won't look as bad as you're probably imagining in your head right now). No velocity stack
and started cutting things up on a whim.3 inch diameter? I had trouble finding pipe when I was developing an intake for a Volvo I owned (see: No Aftermarket). Are you taking heat into consideration?
03-13-2006, 08:18 PM
#34
Originally Posted by Fr33way
I should have thought about a spare, I thought you had gone and started cutting things up on a whim.
3 inch diameter? I had trouble finding pipe when I was developing an intake for a Volvo I owned (see: No Aftermarket). Are you taking heat into consideration?
and started cutting things up on a whim.3 inch diameter? I had trouble finding pipe when I was developing an intake for a Volvo I owned (see: No Aftermarket). Are you taking heat into consideration?
There's not enough room for full 3" diameter piping where I'm routing it. 2.5" would fit quite well, but my prototype is actually going to use 2". Once I go to metal piping in the future it will be 2.5". As far as heat, I don't see it being a concern...my piping will be painted black to help get rid of it, and plastic doesn't heat soak quite as bad as metal does. It's also not routed near any significant source of heat.
03-13-2006, 08:32 PM
#36
Originally Posted by Tatanko
No way would I sacrifice a good light
There's not enough room for full 3" diameter piping where I'm routing it. 2.5" would fit quite well, but my prototype is actually going to use 2". Once I go to metal piping in the future it will be 2.5". As far as heat, I don't see it being a concern...my piping will be painted black to help get rid of it, and plastic doesn't heat soak quite as bad as metal does. It's also not routed near any significant source of heat.
There's not enough room for full 3" diameter piping where I'm routing it. 2.5" would fit quite well, but my prototype is actually going to use 2". Once I go to metal piping in the future it will be 2.5". As far as heat, I don't see it being a concern...my piping will be painted black to help get rid of it, and plastic doesn't heat soak quite as bad as metal does. It's also not routed near any significant source of heat.
03-13-2006, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Take a lesson from my recent R&D...keep the piping as short and bend-free as you can. Down low is a good place for cold air, but likewise it's a good place to pick up water. Weigh your pros and cons.
What a horrible idea, anyway.
How about adapting the old favourite solution of all good ole boys with V8 funny cars, namely the large hole in the hood, air scoop, and flexible gasket leading to the air filter (when hood is properly closed)?
03-13-2006, 08:44 PM
#38
Originally Posted by jvelos3
Fits perfectly for me...i dont know where you got your information from but maybe the guy thought that you didnt need to drill a hole next to the battery. It doesnt come with instructions but from the instructions online and pictures...I was able to drill the hole in the appropriate spot...took me about 1 hr to install.
Clive, sweet idea. I always thought about doing some type of scope in the hood for that. I'm pretty sure that would be a great set up but no idea how its possible haha
03-13-2006, 08:47 PM
#39
Originally Posted by clive
How about adapting the old favourite solution of all good ole boys with V8 funny cars, namely the large hole in the hood, air scoop, and flexible gasket leading to the air filter (when hood is properly closed)?
03-13-2006, 08:49 PM
#40
Originally Posted by Cdg2125
Where'd you get yours? I'm looking on ebay now to see whats up and I'm not sure what to be looking for. I found a Bomz Cold Air for $32. I'm wondering if it says "cold air" is that gonna be like the PR type cold air? What's up?!
Clive, sweet idea. I always thought about doing some type of scope in the hood for that. I'm pretty sure that would be a great set up but no idea how its possible haha
Clive, sweet idea. I always thought about doing some type of scope in the hood for that. I'm pretty sure that would be a great set up but no idea how its possible haha