Need help! URGENT!!!!
03-21-2006, 06:48 PM
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Need help! URGENT!!!!
Hey, im having a major problem.
In the process of changing my spark plugs, a boot came off the coilpack, and stayed on the plug. What happened next is a nightmare. To get the boot (that was covered in oil, by the way) i decided to put a socket in there and just pull it out. No such luck. the socket got STUCK on the boot, now the whole thing won't budge out of the spark plug chamber. this was the hardest spark plug to get to, so now I took off the upper intake manifold, and rear valve cover and STILL no luck, i've been trying to get at this for 4 hours. I can try to lossen the socket, but everytime i turn it, it always has the same resistance (the rubber boot just spins)
My car's not in driveable condition, and i wanna know what i can do to take out the socket and boot. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I need this ASAP.
Thanks,
-Freddy
In the process of changing my spark plugs, a boot came off the coilpack, and stayed on the plug. What happened next is a nightmare. To get the boot (that was covered in oil, by the way) i decided to put a socket in there and just pull it out. No such luck. the socket got STUCK on the boot, now the whole thing won't budge out of the spark plug chamber. this was the hardest spark plug to get to, so now I took off the upper intake manifold, and rear valve cover and STILL no luck, i've been trying to get at this for 4 hours. I can try to lossen the socket, but everytime i turn it, it always has the same resistance (the rubber boot just spins)
My car's not in driveable condition, and i wanna know what i can do to take out the socket and boot. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I need this ASAP.
Thanks,
-Freddy
03-21-2006, 06:52 PM
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whats up freddy?? .. yeah i remember changing my plugs, its a nightmare .. people that say its easy are liers! .. hmm..try a thin wire hanger and bend it in a shape to wear you can catch soemthing and then pull it out, thats what I did ... OR get some super glue and apply it and hold it in place for a few minutes and then pull out ! ..
03-21-2006, 06:54 PM
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well, the problem isnt the boot, it's the actual socket that's stuck in there..you think if i put some super glue or jb weld on my extension, it'll stick to the socket and i'll be able to pull it out?
03-21-2006, 06:56 PM
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well for starters, i would go after the socket first. Can you somehow glue an extension into the socket and pull it out that way?...then worry about the glued socket later? Then go after the boot with some of those long needle nose pliers? I'm assuming maybe you don't have a pair of those handy. 
03-21-2006, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMaxdout
well for starters, i would go after the socket first. Can you somehow glue an extension into the socket and pull it out that way?...then worry about the glued socket later? Then go after the boot with some of those long needle nose pliers? I'm assuming maybe you don't have a pair of those handy.
03-21-2006, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tavarish
there's a fair amount of oil in the chamber, would jb weld or super glue still stick with the oil present?
You can't hook something sharp into the square hole in the socket and catch on the rubber part or something? I understand the oil problem, but try stabbing the rubber of the socket to hook it.
03-21-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMaxdout
won't know until you try. Try CA glue (cyanoacrylate)...its like crazy super glue. You could always try quick cure epoxy...but that extension and socket would then be one tool
You can't hook something sharp into the square hole in the socket and catch on the rubber part or something? I understand the oil problem, but try stabbing the rubber of the socket to hook it.
You can't hook something sharp into the square hole in the socket and catch on the rubber part or something? I understand the oil problem, but try stabbing the rubber of the socket to hook it.
I have some epoxy laying around, and some super glue, and jb weld, so i should be able to take it out tomorrow.
03-21-2006, 07:41 PM
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it sounds like you didnt use a spark plug socket just a regular deep socket. If thats the case than the regulaar deep sockets walls are slightly thicker than a spark plug socket. Cause the wall of the socket is a little thicker if you tilt it any it will bind up aganist the spark plug tube. Some times you can use the extension and a hammer and tap on the socket to get it to un bind if not youll have to take the spark plug tube out if you can and knock it out.
03-21-2006, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by the_3d_man
How...?...try tapping it with a hammer lightly all around the edges to break it loose.
03-21-2006, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by the_3d_man
How...?...try tapping it with a hammer lightly all around the edges to break it loose.
And how would you remove the spark plug tube? I'm under the impression you would have to remove the head.
03-21-2006, 09:41 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out how this happened...I just don't get it. why would a socket aide in getting the boot out? ...how did the socket get stuck in the hole?...yeah... if you use epoxy you should be able to get it out. then you can just heat up the epoxy with a lighter and it will crumble away and you can save your socket.
03-21-2006, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ThisMaxIsTight
whats up freddy?? .. yeah i remember changing my plugs, its a nightmare .. people that say its easy are liers! ..
03-21-2006, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tavarish
tried that, doesnt work, it's bound pretty tight, i even tried an impact gun to try and loosen it, and no luck. I'm gonna try to epoxy or jb weld tomorrow. I'll be sure to clean up the surfaces as much as possible.
And how would you remove the spark plug tube? I'm under the impression you would have to remove the head.
And how would you remove the spark plug tube? I'm under the impression you would have to remove the head.
03-22-2006, 05:09 AM
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Do not break the ceremic part. If you do that, when you remove the remaider of the spark plug, all of the broken bits will go into your cylinder, and then you might as well buy a new head, because you'll do tons of damage. Maybe you should have it towed to a garage. It may cost a few bucks, but they'll save your engine. Or maybe you can drive it as is. It'll misfifre, but if you don't have to go that far, it should be OK.
03-22-2006, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rit
Do not break the ceremic part. If you do that, when you remove the remaider of the spark plug, all of the broken bits will go into your cylinder, and then you might as well buy a new head, because you'll do tons of damage. Maybe you should have it towed to a garage. It may cost a few bucks, but they'll save your engine. Or maybe you can drive it as is. It'll misfifre, but if you don't have to go that far, it should be OK.
03-22-2006, 06:33 AM
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Damn, I can't believe you are having so much trouble. It sounds like that coil has been on there for ages. I've done so many and they never are hard to get out. Take the 2 bolts off and they usually slip right out. Makes me think it is melted to the plug. I would put a long extension on the socket now and try and wiggle the socket loose. Then once its out, work the coil out. Were you using a small plug socket or a deep one designed for foregin cars with the spark plug tubes?
03-22-2006, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaxima95
Damn, I can't believe you are having so much trouble. It sounds like that coil has been on there for ages. I've done so many and they never are hard to get out. Take the 2 bolts off and they usually slip right out. Makes me think it is melted to the plug. I would put a long extension on the socket now and try and wiggle the socket loose. Then once its out, work the coil out. Were you using a small plug socket or a deep one designed for foregin cars with the spark plug tubes?
03-22-2006, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackMaxdout
remind me again...how you are going to break the ceramic head when an electrode goes through it AND its still stuck under a deep socket and rubber boot?
03-22-2006, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tavarish
the coil isnt the problem, the boot is stuck on there, and to add insult to injury, my smart self managed to get a deep socket stuck on top of the boot. I'm going to try the epoxy method. if that doesnt work, i have no idea what to do.
03-22-2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaxima95
Can you get a long needle nose on the socket itself and wiggle the hell out of it and try to break it loose?
I put some epoxy, i'll wait till it dries for a few hours, then i'll try and yank the whole thing out.
03-22-2006, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMaxdout
man, I hope you didnt get any on the inside of the tube...or else it'll really be FUBAR. Good luck!
03-22-2006, 02:51 PM
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people dont freak out and not change your spark plugs because he had a bad experience..im not knocking on you but he used a larger socket and thats the reason it is stuck...use a real sparkplug socket and tape your extension to the socket and have a magnet handy for the screws on the coil packs
03-22-2006, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharp
people dont freak out and not change your spark plugs because he had a bad experience..im not knocking on you but he used a larger socket and thats the reason it is stuck...use a real sparkplug socket and tape your extension to the socket and have a magnet handy for the screws on the coil packs
if you're local, here's a thread, i'm willing to pay $50 to anyone who can help me with my problem. I'm in Elizabeth, NJ
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....05#post4831805
03-22-2006, 03:21 PM
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yeah...you could have had this out yesterday... if all of the other things fail... do this.
1. take a q-tip or whatever and some alcohol or degreaser, etc. and clean the socket with it.
2. get a wooden dowl or something to stick down there.
3. Put a few drops of 5 minute epoxy on the end and stick it down there onto the socket (without sticking it to the side tube) and wait about 20-30 minutes (5 minutes to harden, 30 minutes to cure).
4. Pull it out (epoxy is strong crap, it should work)
1. take a q-tip or whatever and some alcohol or degreaser, etc. and clean the socket with it.
2. get a wooden dowl or something to stick down there.
3. Put a few drops of 5 minute epoxy on the end and stick it down there onto the socket (without sticking it to the side tube) and wait about 20-30 minutes (5 minutes to harden, 30 minutes to cure).
4. Pull it out (epoxy is strong crap, it should work)
03-22-2006, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by the_3d_man
oh my god... you could have had this out yesterday... if all of the other things fail... do this.
1. take a q-tip or whatever and some alcohol or degreaser, etc. and clean the socket with it.
2. get a wooden dowl or something to stick down there.
3. Put a few drops of 5 minute epoxy on the end and stick it down there onto the socket (without sticking it to the side tube) and wait about 20-30 minutes (5 minutes to harden, 30 minutes to cure).
4. Pull it out (epoxy is strong crap, it should work)
1. take a q-tip or whatever and some alcohol or degreaser, etc. and clean the socket with it.
2. get a wooden dowl or something to stick down there.
3. Put a few drops of 5 minute epoxy on the end and stick it down there onto the socket (without sticking it to the side tube) and wait about 20-30 minutes (5 minutes to harden, 30 minutes to cure).
4. Pull it out (epoxy is strong crap, it should work)