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Old 03-25-2006 | 07:01 AM
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max vs. 350z

I have a friend that has a 350z and he says that the only way a maxima can beat a 350z is if the max is turbo'd or s/c'd and the 350 is stock! I tended to disagree but I didnt say anything because I wasnt sure. Now he has both a 95 5spd max and an 05 manual 350z. Any one raced a Z and won that wasnt s/c'd or t/c'd? mods on the max would be y pipe and vi vs. 350z with exhaust and intake.
Old 03-25-2006 | 07:04 AM
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What are your mods? IF the Z is stock it should be a drivers race if you have all the bolt ons, VI of some sort & tune. I've seen stock Z's run low 14s to low 15s so pray he can't drive.
Old 03-25-2006 | 08:04 AM
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He is kinda right, exaggerating a little though

A good driver in a stock manual 350z should be able to run high 13's all day long

Now it's gonna take a very nicely modded NA 4th gen to consistantly be able to beat a stock 6spd 350z. Y-pipe, VIM, ECU, light weight rims, and a good driver will give some stock 350's a run for their money from time to time.

There is always gonna be a few 350z's out there with a horrible driver and maybe 200lb of stero equipment getting owned by 4th gen bolt on maxima's. But that is gonna be the exception, not the rule.

In general I would put my money on a stock 6 spd 350z against a bolt on 3.0 Maxima any day.


And I don't want some of you fools comming in hear and saying....But Nealoc187 ran a 13.4 in his bolt on 3.0!!!!!.....Than means nothing, a handfull of fast bolt on 3.0's will get a win here and there but doesn't change the general rule.
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my sig has what it takes to beat a 350z.
Old 03-25-2006 | 08:21 AM
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Old 03-25-2006 | 10:01 AM
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a 3.5 swap should even the playing feild.

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my sig has what it takes to beat a 350z.
beat them with their own manifold.
Old 03-25-2006 | 10:07 AM
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no way a stock Max will beat the Z...
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less parasitic loss, less weight, and tuning = 350z killer (stock for that matter)


i was gonna say shorter gear ratios, but i'd be talking out of my a$$, as i dont know the ratios by heart.
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my sig has what it takes to beat a 350z.
Turn it on so we can see.
Old 03-25-2006 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Turn it on so we can see.
check post #5
Old 03-25-2006 | 11:38 AM
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Beat them with their own manifold and engine.
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well right off the bat, you are 3.0 Liters, he is 3.5liters, you are a luxury sedan whereas he is a sports car = 350 is lighter


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he is a sports car = 350 is lighter
Not very knowledgable on car specs are you?
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IIRC the 350z is about 3350 with out driver
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Not very knowledgable on car specs are you?

nope...( never owned a sports car)

which 350Z are we talking about?

Stock 350Z Weight (Coupe and Roadster)
*Coupe Base Weight: (MT) 3188lbs.
*Coupe Enthusiast Weight: (MT) 3197lbs. (AT) 3210lbs.
*Coupe Performance Weight: (MT) 3217lbs.
*Coupe Touring Weight: (MT) 3247lbs. (AT) 3239lbs.
*Coupe Track Weight: (MT) 3225lbs.
*Roadster Weight: 3453lbs.


my maxima is 3135lbs( MT) as per my registration...
so, the 350Z being a little heavier then the max ( comparing with the Coupe Base weight), the 350Z is only 53lbs heavier, but having a 3.5 liter engine instead of a 3.0L, the 350Z in theory should be faster... this is however my opinion only.. I could be wrong. Please correct me if I am incorrect..
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Here's a video of a turbo'd 01 maxima (de-k) against a 350z (didn't say what model and what it has). It's a pretty close race and the 350z was still coming strong. But then again I have seen a 13 sec (more like almost 14) all motor 4th gen put on a major spanking. Either way, it's gonna cost some $$$ to accomplish either one. I don't think y-pipe and VIM alone would cut it.
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Some NA maxima can give a stock Z a real run for its money
Old 03-25-2006 | 01:52 PM
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Old 03-25-2006 | 01:56 PM
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I beat the Space Shuttle in my Max but we stopped at the moon; he might have pulled on me if we had kept going since I don't have VI.
Old 03-25-2006 | 01:57 PM
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While going to san diego last weekend I met up with a 350 Z and we were both going about 70 mph. I floored my car and left him in the dust, luckily the auto down shifted at just the right rpm and put me in the meat of the power curve. This was just SC but no
Old 03-25-2006 | 03:52 PM
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ehehehe I would love to see the driver's face knowing he just got owned by a 10 year old family sedan


so from what I understand thought, a stock 4th gen can give a stock 350Z a good race?
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Originally Posted by Digitized
ehehehe I would love to see the driver's face knowing he just got owned by a 10 year old family sedan


so from what I understand thought, a stock 4th gen can give a stock 350Z a good race?

Perhaps if the 350z was missing a tire.
Old 03-25-2006 | 04:39 PM
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Most 4th gen maximas are significantly lighter than 350z's are. 350zs are anywhere from 3150-3250lbs stock, most 4th gens are right around 2950-3050lbs stock. Some are under 2900. Doesn't matter though, stock vs stock a 350z with an average driver would still beat the quickest stock 4th gen. With Ypipe and whatever else you said (doesn't really matter) you are still going to lose unless your buddy drives like an asian Helen Keller.
Old 03-25-2006 | 05:40 PM
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alright well I was just hoping to find out that a modded 4th gen with out boosting can beat a 350z that wasnt boosted. so pretty much a 4th gen with all the bolt ons and a vi.
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[QUOTE=Nealoc187]Most 4th gen maximas are significantly lighter than 350z's are. 350zs are anywhere from 3150-3250lbs stock, most 4th gens are right around 2950-3050lbs stock. Some are under 2900. Doesn't matter though, stock vs stock a 350z with an average driver would still beat the quickest stock 4th gen. With Ypipe and whatever else you said (doesn't really matter) you are still going to lose unless your buddy drives like an asian Helen Keller

I do believe there are a few states where she could get a drivers license. I know lots of her relatives live and drive in vegas!

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Since this was mentioned in the original post but not since then, the 350Z in question has intake/exhaust. How well do the Z33's respond to those mods?
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he said he might have gained maybe 15-20 hp.
Old 03-25-2006 | 08:20 PM
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every bolt on + tuning wont be able to catch that Z.

Boost, good tires, and good driver will close the gap
Old 03-25-2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
......like an asian Helen Keller.
why does she have to be asian?
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Originally Posted by matts95max
I have a friend that has a 350z and he says that the only way a maxima can beat a 350z is if the max is turbo'd or s/c'd and the 350 is stock! I tended to disagree but I didnt say anything because I wasnt sure. Now he has both a 95 5spd max and an 05 manual 350z. Any one raced a Z and won that wasnt s/c'd or t/c'd? mods on the max would be y pipe and vi vs. 350z with exhaust and intake.
I beat two 350Zs at KCIR last season. One was kinda close - a 6-spd that ran 14.0. Don't remember the other guy, but it was several lengths. Got 'em both on launch, too. The 6-spd guy was pizzed- and he left right after...

Of course, I spray....
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pound for pound, The 350 would literary rape a maxima(even with just a y-pipe). Unless the 350 driver has serious issues. I think you would need to go to all the bolt ons to be able to keep up esp is the driver knows how to shift. i dont know how the 350 responds to mods, but i would like to think that there is slim chance you would be able to keep up with it.
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Originally Posted by matts95max
he said he might have gained maybe 15-20 hp.

15-20 from intake an exhaust, doubt it. There is not much HP to find with basic bolt-on's with the Z.
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
every bolt on + tuning wont be able to catch that Z.

Boost, good tires, and good driver will close the gap

Close the gap? A turbo max at 5psi can walk a stock Z


This thread is messed up.

A stock 4th maxima is not faster than a stock Z by a long shot

A 3.0 4th gen with all the discussed bolt on's would give alot stock Z's a run for their money.

A basic 3.5 4th gen would probably edge out alot of stock Z's

A turbo max with any more than 5 psi should walk a stock Z


So can we just stop this now?
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pound for pound, The 350 would literary rape a maxima(even with just a y-pipe).
I'm trying to visualize a 350Z literally raping a Maxima. I guess it would use its driveshaft as a ***** and then stick that up the Max's spare tire well.
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now that I think about it a Boosted Max at 5lbs would take a Z. For many reason but mainly a stock Z puts down about 245rwhp, I remember your sig I30tmikeD @ 5lbs you were putting down 260 to the wheels.

That plus less weight a good driver. a win for sure
Old 03-25-2006 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
now that I think about it a Boosted Max at 5lbs would take a Z. For many reason but mainly a stock Z puts down about 245rwhp, I remember your sig I30tmikeD @ 5lbs you were putting down 260 to the wheels.

That plus less weight a good driver. a win for sure
My friend, and old org membr Briguymax, has a APS TT 350z. Before he was turbo he had intake, catback, and lightend flyhweel. When I was running 5psi and he was NA I would pull on him just a little
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I beat the Space Shuttle in my Max but we stopped at the moon; he might have pulled on me if we had kept going since I don't have VI.
I just died laughing, goodbye .org
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why does she have to be asian?

Just because it's a common stereotype that asian women are poor drivers. I figured Helen Keller was a really bad driver, so an asian blind deaf and mute woman would be even worse according to the stereotype lol.
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this is one educational thread
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this is one educational thread
im tellin ya, wait I'm dead... later


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