GTRBlkMax97

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Just curious if this is possible and if so what parts would be needed and what kinda work would need to be done to complete this project, cause this car won't stop for **** in an emergency

Apparition

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yea about that... I have a '98 and I thought they were supposed to have ABS and I really dont think my car does because it'll ****** skid without the intervals, its sucks.

jman7777

i've read that it isn't even worth adding, too much work involved. i think swapping to a 5spd from auto is easier.

on startup, if a light comes on the dash that says "ABS"..... then you have abs...

JSMax

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truth be told, it will take your car longer to stop by activating the abs than if you use threshold braking.

GTRBlkMax97

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i know that it will be hard but it would be worth it to me for the rain and **** also if i would have had abs the accident that i was involved in would not have hurt my car at all i know that overall it might be a longer stopping distance but that's if you can avoid locking the tires up, abs is a good thing because i don't think a 96 911 turbo would be able to stop from 100mph in 3 sec flat if it didn't have it
but if someone could tell me what i need to buy for it and a rough estimate on how much all of it would be great

97maximaman

Yeh, true, not to mention it doesnt work often. The other day i had a close call and had to lock it up, i have abs but my car skid almost 30ft(i was going fast), smoke poured out and all that stuff, so my take on it is that abs sucks on our cars or mines just messed up.

Apparition

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ill take that into consideration, but I have another question was ABS an option on the SE?

Fr33way™

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I have '98 SE w/ABS.

And honestly I would rather use TBing than the ABS.

JSMax

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I'm not sure about the flordia maxima's, but up here in Canada, the 97se came with everything cold weather package (block heater, low washer fluid), limited slip, abs, leather, heather seats, sunroof etc, etc.
ABS only allows the driver to maintain control of the direction of the car when traction is minimal and braking force exerted presents a potential wheel lock up situation.
Hope that helps.

GTRBlkMax97

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what is tbing? Fr33way? just curious also

7maximaman your abs must not be working correctly but i had it on my 97 and it would stop on a dime and never locked up even if i was doing 110mph, where as in my accident i was going 45 ,

Apparition - abs was an option on every SE max from 96-99 idk about 2k +

JSMax

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But, your talking about a car that has 4 piston calipers in the front, and two pistons in the rear on each axle. 10 pistons in total. The tires on that 911 will play a major role in the stopping distance (not time) also. Our maximas have 4 pistons total. ALso, I doubt that the diameter of the disc brakes is the same and if you compare the braking distance to similar equiped 911 turbos (one with abs and one with out), the distance will be shorter every single time on the nonabs car.
As I said in the previous thread, it allows you to maintain some control over the direction of the car.

GTRBlkMax97

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i was simply talking about the abs system in general, i know that the 911 turbo is far superior to our cars in every way possible i was just say abs = good

LTU_max

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This is pretty helpful:

http://www.canadiandirect.com/Renderer.jhtml.258.html

Apparition

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well guys I feel like crap if if alot of you would prefer threshold braking I prefer ABS I've always had it and it worked great. Without it on my max I skid in the rain if I try to stop fast and for the love of me I dont know if its my pads or what but the brakes dont stop the car well AT all.

nismology

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1. What you're saying only holds true as a general statement in the dry. In wet conditions, there's no comparison.

2. ABS's greatest contribution is driver control during evasive maneuvers preventing the rears from locking up especially. I don't know of many people that can threshold brake and swerve out of harms way simultaneously.

MorpheusZero

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1) Very true. I'm very very glad I have ABS, and would probably drive like a ninny in the wet if I didn't. While you can stop faster outright using threshold braking in the dry, during panic stops you aren't prepared for threshold braking. If you're not a seasoned veteran, you could flat spot your tire(s), and it will most likely take you longer to stop. It's a matter of ABS = 95% braking, period, or threshold = 75-100%, depending on how lucky you are.
I've stopped many a car using threshold braking, including maybe 3 panic stops. Each panic stop I really wish I had ABS, not only could I have stopped faster but people were staring at me like I was a moron, since you will actually lock up your brakes and make a nice amount of noise if you're TBing.

2) Well put, but the rears aren't really in danger of locking up, unless the car's very very poorly designed. Fronts should ALWAYS lock up before the rears. Most people can't TB and evade simultaneously because they lock up their fronts and plow into whatever they're trying to avoid. Yes, there's quite a bit of weight transfer to the front but the engineers have thought of that, and came up with and tuned the proportioning valve.

MorpheusZero

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...How many brake pistons the car has has nothing to do with the ABS system... and I would think that the 911TT has 6 pistons up front by now? But I haven't checked recently...

Maxima_Joe

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I'm goint to be doing the opposite in a few weeks.Removing the abs. This will be for my drag car so i will not need abs and it will shed some weight.This will be alot easier then adding. A couple things that will be complicated to add it would be the wiring and drilling holes for the abs sensors.

MorpheusZero

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You're going to remove the ABS from one of the few cars that actually has it?

99se5speed

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When i bought my car my friend who had a 97 said he doesn't have abs so i figured i didn't also, until one day i noticed the abs light go on. I was so happy that i had abs because my 2005 altima didn't have abs and it was a 2005....

clive

The number of people who can actually manage to do that must be about 1 in 1000. I'll stick with ABS thanks. In fact, I won't buy a vehicle without ABS, these days.