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Old 04-03-2006, 09:03 PM
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Best Spring/strut combo.

ok I know the Ksports are the best thing for the 4 gen but, if I want to spend a little less money what is the best spring/strut combo, but of course with the best comfort of a ride. I tried to find the thread that had the comparisons and I just couldn't find it. So if you have an opinion on this or know where I can find that thread, your more than welcome to drop some lines.....
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Progress/Illumina. 2/4
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on the Tokico Illuminas.

As for springs, it depends on what you want:

- Progress for the lowest drop with good comfort (and not smacking the bumpstops all the time)
- H&R or Tein H-Tech for the best comfort with good handling
- Tokico/Vogtland for the best balance of handling and comfort
- Eibach for the best handlingwith good comfort

And FYI, Ksports are not necessarily the best overall, so don't worry about it. It just depends on what you want. They are the best handling suspension kit for the money and don't make the ride too stiff, but if you want a combination of handling and comfort then don't sweat looking elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by Stagnet04
of course with the best comfort of a ride.
Stock + Illuminas set on 2 & 3 SWEEEEET
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progress and Koni Yellows
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Old 04-04-2006, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
progress and Koni Yellows
He said he wanted it cheaper than Ksports. That combo wouldn't end up being much cheaper if at all, especially when you factor in installation.

But now that you've brought it up, it might as well be emphasized that Koni Yellows are definitely the best shock absorbers available for our cars, period....
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Old 04-04-2006, 05:29 AM
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I prefer a bit more ride compliance and I have been in many cars with differing setups...my favorite is what I have...AGX struts with H&R springs.
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Originally Posted by A_Tang
I prefer a bit more ride compliance and I have been in many cars with differing setups...my favorite is what I have...AGX struts with H&R springs.
I thought the AGX were not as compliant as the Illuminas?
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Maybe he hasn't ridden on H&R/Illumina?
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I'm a Tokico fan so this might sound close minded. I would get the Illumina suspension kit. It might be over your budget, but you won't be worrying 1-2 yrs. down the road wishing you got a different setup.
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So progress and illuminas, huh It's just that I don't hear to much about that combo on here, I always hear H&R's or D2's. But Ill definatley look into that, Thanks
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One up for the Tokico Illumina Suspension kit. My settings are 5f/4r
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:31 AM
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d00df00d hit it on the head in oist #3. we cant really say whats the best for you. comming from ksports everything is going to feel comfy. the average spring is about $200 and struts are about $400. thats $600 right there, with no other parts. my vote would be h&r, eibach, or h techs paired with any adjustable strut.
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Originally Posted by Stagnet04
ok I know the Ksports are the best thing for the 4 gen
What?

You might want to take a look through here.

It all depends on what balance of looks/performance/comfort you want.

IIRC in the group deal, the Illuminas are not very much more than the AGXs and most people will tell you that suspension is one thing NOT to cheap out on. My advice for whatver setup you choose is to do it right the first time.
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Yeah, people are telling me some H&R's/tokikos would be very good. Im definatley thinking of that.
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What are your goals?

Lowering your car for looks while retaining the comfiest ride possible?
Getting rid of the floaty, wallowy feeling?
A little extra handling with maximum ride comfort?
As much extra handling as possible with decent ride comfort?
Just replacing worn-out stock stuff with better stuff?

Also, what are the roads like where you usually drive?
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
What are your goals?

Lowering your car for looks while retaining the comfiest ride possible?
Getting rid of the floaty, wallowy feeling?
A little extra handling with maximum ride comfort?
As much extra handling as possible with decent ride comfort?
Just replacing worn-out stock stuff with better stuff?

Also, what are the roads like where you usually drive?

I would have to say all of thee above, LOL but seriously out of all those I would have to say the first one. Cuz Im sure with the first one you still get better handling...

Lowering your car for looks while retaining the comfiest ride possible?
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I;ve read alot of good things about H&R springs, not just here on the Org. They perform coomparably to Tokico springs, supposedly. Not to jack the thread, but I have a related question on suspension combos. I'm in need of replacing my struts soon and am considering a deal on the Tokico HP / Spring combo kit. Any feedback on it? I dont care about adjustable struts, i just get in the car and drive.
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Originally Posted by Stagnet04
I would have to say all of thee above, LOL but seriously out of all those I would have to say the first one. Cuz Im sure with the first one you still get better handling...

Lowering your car for looks while retaining the comfiest ride possible?
So, I assume that looks are first, comfort is a close second, and handling is third. Am I right? If that's the case, I'd say the Tokico Illumina kit is your best bet. It should run you under $600.

The Tokico HP kit is an okay option if you're really going cheap -- $450, and it includes the same springs as the Illumina kit but HP shocks in place of Illuminas. The problem is that the HPs are not going to be as comfy as the Illuminas and will likely not last as long. My advice to people has always been that if you only have $450 to spend on springs and shocks, wait and save up some more. If for whatever reason you can't wait, that kit is the only good option IMO.... but the Illumina kit is miles ahead.
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Hmm..well there is a deal that I've found on the HP kit with springs, new. I'm thinking of buying it.....
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How would you guys rate the Tokico springs? I read the write up on maxmods, but would like user experiences.
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i went from s-tech agx to k-sports......i wish i never wasted the money on the stech/agx. Agx was bumpy and harsh as hell. i rode in a htech/illumi.....and that ride was very nice
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i didnt really think it would be good for me to make another thread on struts/springs so i'll ask here, sorry. wut would u all recommend to someone like me who does not care wutsoever about improving the handling (i'm completely fine with stock handling and i dont really push the car to limits) but just wants to lessen the wheel gap? and im not interested in blowing money on suspension. in my shoes would u consider taking a chance just getting springs and hope that nothing happened to the struts given my gentle driving habits?
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
So, I assume that looks are first, comfort is a close second, and handling is third. Am I right? If that's the case, I'd say the Tokico Illumina kit is your best bet. It should run you under $600.

The Tokico HP kit is an okay option if you're really going cheap -- $450, and it includes the same springs as the Illumina kit but HP shocks in place of Illuminas. The problem is that the HPs are not going to be as comfy as the Illuminas and will likely not last as long. My advice to people has always been that if you only have $450 to spend on springs and shocks, wait and save up some more. If for whatever reason you can't wait, that kit is the only good option IMO.... but the Illumina kit is miles ahead.

Your right on the money about what my priorities are. Actually a couple of people have told me about the Tokico Illumina kit, so Ill probably go with that, but I need to fins a deal, you know, so well see. Would changing the shock absorber be nessasary?
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Originally Posted by ManualMaxima
i went from s-tech agx to k-sports......i wish i never wasted the money on the stech/agx. Agx was bumpy and harsh as hell. i rode in a htech/illumi.....and that ride was very nice
Yeah, It looks like illuminas will probably be in the combo I get....
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Here is a good price on a Group Deal here on the Org.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=458133
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Be aware that with H&R you drop will look uneven. It will appear to be lower in the rear than front. I have Illumina/H&R combo and have this issue.
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Originally Posted by Stagnet04
Your right on the money about what my priorities are. Actually a couple of people have told me about the Tokico Illumina kit, so Ill probably go with that, but I need to fins a deal, you know, so well see. Would changing the shock absorber be nessasary?
Absolutely necessary. If you value comfort, you would definitely regret putting lowering springs on stock shocks.
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Tein S-Tech/KYB AGX
i couldnt say it better myself
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Originally Posted by MaximaSpd85
i didnt really think it would be good for me to make another thread on struts/springs so i'll ask here, sorry. wut would u all recommend to someone like me who does not care wutsoever about improving the handling (i'm completely fine with stock handling and i dont really push the car to limits) but just wants to lessen the wheel gap? and im not interested in blowing money on suspension. in my shoes would u consider taking a chance just getting springs and hope that nothing happened to the struts given my gentle driving habits?
anyone? thanks
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Originally Posted by MaximaSpd85
anyone? thanks
Tein H-Tech springs with Tokico HP struts would be the bare minimum (you'd be way better off with Illuminas).
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sounds like money id rather spend elsewhere....i guess to lessen the gap i'll just go with 20s
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Originally Posted by russianguy
i couldnt say it better myself
My freind has some Tein's on his scion TC, of course stock struts and he says there bouncy as fnck!
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The bounciness is because of the stock struts. Better (firmer) struts will do a better job of keeping the movement in check, which gets rid of the bounce.
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
He said he wanted it cheaper than Ksports. That combo wouldn't end up being much cheaper if at all, especially when you factor in installation.

But now that you've brought it up, it might as well be emphasized that Koni Yellows are definitely the best shock absorbers available for our cars, period....

i bought my yellows brand new off of ebay fo rthe same price full sets of Illuminas are going for...Progress Springs are 160 a set....so IMO and experience u can get a way better setup with the Yellows cause Yes yellows are teh best so not much more than a H&R/Illumuma combo...installation is east on the frontys jsut a little more work
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Anyone else have uneven drop with H&R?
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Originally Posted by mm347
Be aware that with H&R you drop will look uneven. It will appear to be lower in the rear than front. I have Illumina/H&R combo and have this issue.

Im set on the adjustable illuminas, but now you have me worried of the H&R's and an uneven drop.......
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I seriously doubt H&R would develop a spring kit for our Max and have an uneven vehicle stance, and if so this is the first I've heard of this...

I think it's a isolated experience, anyone else on H&R's want to speak up?

http://www.hrsprings.com
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