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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Are my 300Z calipers on the wrong side???

Yeah I know the rotors are going the wrong direction ...
But I think I may have mounted the calipers on the wrong side as well...
Looks like they sit too low compared to all the other kits.....

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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any pics of them?
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Hahahaha... woops.


I have one in the sig as well...
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Yea it wrong it suppose to go up on top. Same way as it is now just moved up to where the originals were
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Does it matter? I don't think it matters on where the calipers are. Someone fix me if I'm wrong.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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here is the way mine look.


Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mxrider52
Yea it wrong it suppose to go up on top. Same way as it is now just moved up to where the originals were
No, you're wrong. The 300ZX calipers require a relocation bracket to be used. In this case, relocation means rotated toward the front of the car.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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if this helps the bleeder has to face the front...but something looks funny...but i have Matts kit not Jeffs
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
here is the way mine look.



Yeah, on you're setup it's pushing down on the calipers which is good.....
I need to switch my calipers/rotors this weekend.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmaxx96
Hahahaha... woops.


I have one in the sig as well...

Who's relocation brackets are you using? I've never seen any sets of brackets other than the ones I made myself, I never knew that they moved the caliper AROUND the rotor, I thought that they just moved it out...
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Yes they are way too low what brackets are you using?
(former 4th gen owner with 300Zx BBK Jeff92se's brackets)
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I'm using the Blehmco brackets.

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Either way is fine, as long as they fit over the rotor properly. Usually I put them above the stock spot, but below certainly won't hurt anything.

At least yours looks different than everyone else's.
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man is there a write up for this? im doing my breaks and I would like to get these calipers!!!!!!! where u guys getting the calipers at btw?
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Off a 300ZX.
To do the 300ZX brake upgrade it's gonna cost you well over $500.00....
Check out the Group Deal section to see what you've gotta buy.

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Originally Posted by maxiquin
man is there a write up for this? im doing my breaks and I would like to get these calipers!!!!!!! where u guys getting the calipers at btw?
http://mattblehm.com/300ZX_brakes.htm

It doesnt come cheap and you have to have 17" wheels and a certain gap between wheel and rotor. I dont know the specs but that what I do know.
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There's no negative's to having the caliper mounted the way I do???

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Love the BBK...What rotors are those?
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmaxx96
There's no negative's to having the caliper mounted the way I do???

Mike

why would there be? it doesnt matter where around the rotor it is mounted, as long as the caliper is secured down and the bleeder screw isnt facing towards the ground
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i got a kwik question....i think i got jacked on my calipers...how do u tell if they are 30mm or 26mm......I am not postive on how to measure...iw as told they were 30mm


also alot of supercars have their calipers where u have them Blackmaxx96
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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dude it does not matter where your calipers are, unless you are only worried about cosmetics... then in my opinion, trying to "fix" it would be a total waste of money
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1. It does matter.... Having the caliper on the front is theoretically bad for the moment of interia when you hit the brakes, making them want to rotate up and away from the ground as opposed to down and into the ground if they were at the rear of the wheel....
2. waste of money???? I do my own work............................
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When you are going forward and you hit the brakes the force is in a "downward" direction when the calipers are mounted "in front" of the rotor, not upwards. I don't understand why you think either mounting position is advantageous, there is no difference in performance based on where you mount your calipers.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
The 300ZX calipers require a relocation bracket to be used.

Only when using larger rotors. 300z rotors and calipers do not need relocation brackets.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
Only when using larger rotors. 300z rotors and calipers do not need relocation brackets.
they need to be milled down though
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by acidspit86
dude it does not matter where your calipers are, unless you are only worried about cosmetics... then in my opinion, trying to "fix" it would be a total waste of money
how is it a waste of money when it takes 20 min. to do all the has to do is switch sides and bleed....even kwiker if he has speed bleeders


and yes u dont need relocations brackets but like Vsam said the rotors will need to be milled down and and since 300zx rotora are only 11.1 i think milling them to the proper diameter gives approx. same rotor size as stock....sure u may get a lil more bite with 4 piston calipers but it aint **** without having effectively larger rotors such as 12.6" 04 Maximas or 13" Cobras
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
they need to be milled down though

Yes they do........
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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You're pushing down on the calipers, but the equal and opposite
reaction is that the wheel/tire itself is pushing down against the
caliper which causes it to want to lift. If the caliper were on the
back it would push "up" against the caliper, causing the wheel to push
"down" into the ground.
The more force you have pushing the wheel into the ground the
better...equals more traction.
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When you are going forward and you hit the brakes the force is in a "downward" direction when the calipers are mounted "in front" of the rotor, not upwards. I don't understand why you think either mounting position is advantageous, there is no difference in performance based on where you mount your calipers.
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What you just said makes no sense. I think I see where you are coming from with your thinking, but it is flawed. The force exerted in the opposite direction on the caliper bracket does not act to "lift" the wheel off the ground.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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This is how mine look, I put em on so that the bleeder screw was nearer the top.

On a side note, these brakes are very powerful yet I still have not had any problems with my car flying away when I hit them really hard.
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Originally Posted by Akumachan
This is how mine look, I put em on so that the bleeder screw was nearer the top.

On a side note, these brakes are very powerful yet I still have not had any problems with my car flying away when I hit them really hard.
your car knows how to fly?
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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My point was that caliper location won't make your car get airborne as someone in this thread seems to think...
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im so glad u guys arent in my engineering class cause i have hear some odd things here....making cars fly...lol
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
im so glad u guys arent in my engineering class cause i have hear some odd things here....making cars fly...lol
C'mon, you know it could happen, just imagine the drastic side effects of putting the calipers at the bottom of the rotor
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Hehehe.

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hahahahaha.............................
or not
Old Apr 8, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Akumachan
C'mon, you know it could happen, just imagine the drastic side effects of putting the calipers at the bottom of the rotor
ive always wanted to have my car fly.....maybe ill join suit when i do my calipers
Old Apr 8, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmaxx96
1. It does matter.... Having the caliper on the front is theoretically bad for the moment of interia when you hit the brakes, making them want to rotate up and away from the ground as opposed to down and into the ground if they were at the rear of the wheel....
2. waste of money???? I do my own work............................

the waste of money part was assuming you would be buying new parts of some sort...
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
how is it a waste of money when it takes 20 min. to do all the has to do is switch sides and bleed....even kwiker if he has speed bleeders


and yes u dont need relocations brackets but like Vsam said the rotors will need to be milled down and and since 300zx rotora are only 11.1 i think milling them to the proper diameter gives approx. same rotor size as stock....sure u may get a lil more bite with 4 piston calipers but it aint **** without having effectively larger rotors such as 12.6" 04 Maximas or 13" Cobras

i was under the impression he would be buy some other mounting brackets to put them in a different location to the rotor
Old Apr 9, 2006 | 04:40 AM
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Nah... they're just on the wrong side .



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