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Old 06-30-2006, 04:48 PM
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Should I go to the Dark Side?

Well I was at Infiniti today waiting for the Snap-On truck. Long story short I ended up with this. Should I go install it or just screw it and sell it?





2000 I30t VQ30DE.
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why do you say its the dark side though?
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looks like its in sad shape...maybe clean it up alittle...how many miles on it?
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Who knows. I wasn't talking about the motor just the DEk Swap. Dark-Side beacause the DEK manifold is black.
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Originally Posted by Zack342
Who knows. I wasn't talking about the motor just the DEk Swap. Dark-Side beacause the DEK manifold is black.
ohh, i thought you meant...dark side = bad side...i was like, the DEK is better than the DE in almost every aspect...
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Originally Posted by steven88
ohh, i thought you meant...dark side = bad side...i was like, the DEK is better than the DE in almost every aspect...

Well I am a big FAN of DE/MEVI but I hear good things about the DEK just never thought the minimal gains to be worth the extra hassel and fabrication.
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:21 PM
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VQ30DE-KT/VQ30DET-K, or whatever the hell the nomenclature for the I30T engine is> VQ30DE or VQ30DE-K. haha do it man as long as the miles aren't that bad and clean that thing up!
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If you're a big fan of the DE and MEVI then this is a no brainer, the DEK is better than both.
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Apparition
VQ30DE-KT/VQ30DET-K, or whatever the hell the nomenclature for the I30T engine is> VQ30DE or VQ30DE-K. haha do it man as long as the miles aren't that bad and clean that thing up!
WTF did you just say?

Let me try to figure this out. The I30T has a VQ30DE-KT/VQ30DET-K???

Now I understand why that one dude said I30/I35s are 3 times better than the "cheap" Maxima. It gets that special motor.

And Zack install it. Actually put something on the car already. You buy all this stuff and then say screw it in the end. I still think you need to install the BBK.
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:29 PM
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Not sure about the motor. For what I paid i assume its not worth putting into my car. If anything I would have to pull all the components and install the Manifold.
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For everything I sell I usually have 1 for myself. The BBK is an exception because I don't wanna get larger wheels in fear of negitive performance.
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:49 PM
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For what you paid LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, sell the DEK VI to me for $1.... And we can install it together, then give me the DEK motor to install in my Sentra.
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Awww...cute little VQ
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Originally Posted by 4DRSpeed
WTF did you just say?

Let me try to figure this out. The I30T has a VQ30DE-KT/VQ30DET-K???

Now I understand why that one dude said I30/I35s are 3 times better than the "cheap" Maxima. It gets that special motor.

And Zack install it. Actually put something on the car already. You buy all this stuff and then say screw it in the end. I still think you need to install the BBK.
sarcasm>me possibly.. but yes it does have a slightly better motor obviously. But its not 2,3,4,5 better than the maxima. Just an engine. But essentially yes its a DE-K thats turbo'd so hence the "T." I wasn't throwing that out there to sound like a techy I was just making a point..
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no u should not go to the dark side
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maybe i should pick up that VQ35 from a 350z from my work, im sure they'd let it go for cheap, seeing as theres a chunk of aluminum missing from the side of the block and a piston missing hahaha. who said women drive there cars nice and gentle?

if i were in your position, id probably swap engines from what ive read the DEK VI swap is quite tricky. i think in my case i could easily pull the engine in less time then the DEK VI swap. but atleast you got all the parts youd need for it, so how much did you pick up the engine for?
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I thought the dark side is turbo. That looks like a turbo in the front of the first pic, but all of it is in bad shape. I was never aware that any VQ came turbocharged minus JDM engines (VQ30DET).

Being at Infinity, you were obviously in the US (Yes your location is a US place, but people do travel overseas). I would like to know what car that came out of.
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Originally Posted by Zack342

I30t
I was in the same situation a little while back. GOt a DEK for a extremly good price. I got a good offer from a local member, so I sold it.

If you keep the manifold you could try to part out the rest, and you could recycle the rest at a recycler for $.xx/lbs
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Originally Posted by scrhale
I thought the dark side is turbo. That looks like a turbo in the front of the first pic, but all of it is in bad shape. I was never aware that any VQ came turbocharged minus JDM engines (VQ30DET).

Being at Infinity, you were obviously in the US (Yes your location is a US place, but people do travel overseas). I would like to know what car that came out of.

Well it would be a VQ30DET, but theres no turbo on there anymore, so it's just a DE-K..
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Apparition
Well it would be a VQ30DET, but theres no turbo on there anymore, so it's just a DE-K..
are you under the impression that the I30t is turbo? t stands for touring. There was no turbo on that engine, and the engine is EXACTLY the same as a 2000-2001 Nissan Maxima. There are no stock turbo maximas.
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Originally Posted by Apparition
sarcasm>me possibly.. but yes it does have a slightly better motor obviously. But its not 2,3,4,5 better than the maxima. Just an engine. But essentially yes its a DE-K thats turbo'd so hence the "T." I wasn't throwing that out there to sound like a techy I was just making a point..

the i30t has the same motor as the regular i30 and the maxima... there haven't been any stock turbo nissans in the us since the z32.


edit: whoops tavarish beat me to it.
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I am going to keep my eye open for the next engine. They have a QX4 3.5 that I am going to see if I could get my hands on .
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God I thought you meant Toyota/Lexus.

Yes, put it in! (no homo)
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Old 07-01-2006, 12:48 AM
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1. Install VI FTW
2. Part out rest of DEK
3. ???
4. Profit
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Originally Posted by Zack342
I am going to keep my eye open for the next engine. They have a QX4 3.5 that I am going to see if I could get my hands on .
Isnt a QX4 a 4.0l?
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maybe i should pick up that VQ35 from a 350z from my work, im sure they'd let it go for cheap, seeing as theres a chunk of aluminum missing from the side of the block and a piston missing hahaha. who said women drive there cars nice and gentle?

if i were in your position, id probably swap engines from what ive read the DEK VI swap is quite tricky. i think in my case i could easily pull the engine in less time then the DEK VI swap. but atleast you got all the parts youd need for it, so how much did you pick up the engine for?
350z's use the VG35, not the VQ35, and you will have a lot of work to do since 350z is rear wheel drive layout, and yours is fwd, oh and btw, women misshift
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Originally Posted by llama
350z's use the VG35
uhhh...no they dont. They use the VQ man!!!
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Originally Posted by llama
350z's use the VG35, not the VQ35, and you will have a lot of work to do since 350z is rear wheel drive layout, and yours is fwd, oh and btw, women misshift
THERE IS NO VG35!

Men misshift as well.

So much misinformation here.
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Then, I guess I was misinformed before, or just got mixed up with the 300zx, sorry, next time I'll think before I post, and do some research.
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Originally Posted by tavarish
THERE IS NO VG35!
Maybe someone bored out a VG
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Men misshift as well.
I believe Zack342 can attest to that
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Originally Posted by tavarish
are you under the impression that the I30t is turbo? t stands for touring. There was no turbo on that engine, and the engine is EXACTLY the same as a 2000-2001 Nissan Maxima. There are no stock turbo maximas.
Thank you. This is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Where did that turbo come from in the image?
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I say go for it unless you have plans for a 3.5 swap in the future.
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Originally Posted by JSutter
Isnt a QX4 a 4.0l?
Some years (1 or 2) after the VG but before the VQ40 they had a VQ35, I think it may have been the same years that HID's were first featured in them as well ('02-'03?)
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The QX4 never had a 4.0L engine in it. It always featured some of the same engines as the Pathfinder of the corresponding year(s). The QX56 is a different story, obviously, but it's never had a 4.0L either.
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Originally Posted by Apparition
sarcasm>me possibly.. but yes it does have a slightly better motor obviously. But its not 2,3,4,5 better than the maxima. Just an engine. But essentially yes its a DE-K thats turbo'd so hence the "T." I wasn't throwing that out there to sound like a techy I was just making a point..

Ohhh well you definetly made your point.
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Install it and join us.......
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According to the stickies, installing a DE-K takes alot of time. They also said the same about the 3.5 swap. I'm thinking theyre just about as troublesome. Not a weekend job. According to the amount of time you can invest in the car, decides accordingly
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Originally Posted by scrhale
Thank you. This is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Where did that turbo come from in the image?
Actually thanks for correcting me everyone, yes for some reason I've been under the impression that the I30t was a turbo'd car. I think I got that from a friend saying they were turbo'd, Mike on here, and some guy I saw at a shopping center a while back had an I30t and it drove by and appeared to be spooling.. hmm well guess thats cleared up, its funny to me though. thanks again sry for the mix up lol..
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If you have the time and money, do it. Also if you can cope with the down time.
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Originally Posted by 96i30azn
According to the stickies, installing a DE-K takes alot of time. They also said the same about the 3.5 swap. I'm thinking theyre just about as troublesome. Not a weekend job. According to the amount of time you can invest in the car, decides accordingly
not true. DE-K can be installed in a day. 3.5 swaps take a bit more time because you have to rip apart both the 3.0 and 3.5. They're not troublesome if you have any idea of what you're doing.
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