Struts & lowering Springs... worth it?
#1
Struts & lowering Springs... worth it?
Finally I can post something! This is the second time I've had to register an account w/this forum because my last one was screwed up and couldn't fix it because of email problems, but anyhow... Back again for the first time.
I've been debating this for a while now - Getting my car lowered. I had the springs and struts already picked out- TEIN S.TECH's and the TOKICO HP's. After purchasing new rims and tires which were more expensive then first planned, I might not be able to afford to lower my ride. Here's why... $400 installation fee!!!!!
I can't find a place in the Omaha area that'll take struts and springs I bought and install them for cheaper. And to think if I did this and one of the springs or struts was bad ... another $400 to get them off!!!!
Is all this hassle even worth it? I won't see anything as far as resale that this will help ... except looks and my own personal pleasure.
I've been debating this for a while now - Getting my car lowered. I had the springs and struts already picked out- TEIN S.TECH's and the TOKICO HP's. After purchasing new rims and tires which were more expensive then first planned, I might not be able to afford to lower my ride. Here's why... $400 installation fee!!!!!
I can't find a place in the Omaha area that'll take struts and springs I bought and install them for cheaper. And to think if I did this and one of the springs or struts was bad ... another $400 to get them off!!!!
Is all this hassle even worth it? I won't see anything as far as resale that this will help ... except looks and my own personal pleasure.
#2
$400 is gross gross gross. Keep looking. It's really an easy job. The only reason a lot of shops charge a lot for it is that most people think it's a much bigger deal than it actually is.
BTW, why S-Techs and HPs? That sounds like a recipe for disaster...
BTW, why S-Techs and HPs? That sounds like a recipe for disaster...
#3
Amen to that! $400 is ridiculous! The search is on, so far not so good.
The s-techs are the only suspension I like that will help even the front and rear's out. Right now the rear is .75" lower then the fronts ... might be because of the subs in the trunk, not sure.
The HP-blue's were recommended because of the price and the fact (I was told) luminas weren't much of an upgrade...and too expensive for me.
If you can recommend a better (same price if not cheaper) strut then by all means do so... I'm a total noob when it comes to suspensions. I just know what I want it to look like.
The s-techs are the only suspension I like that will help even the front and rear's out. Right now the rear is .75" lower then the fronts ... might be because of the subs in the trunk, not sure.
The HP-blue's were recommended because of the price and the fact (I was told) luminas weren't much of an upgrade...and too expensive for me.
If you can recommend a better (same price if not cheaper) strut then by all means do so... I'm a total noob when it comes to suspensions. I just know what I want it to look like.
#4
Originally Posted by Realtight
Amen to that! $400 is ridiculous! The search is on, so far not so good.
The s-techs are the only suspension I like that will help even the front and rear's out. Right now the rear is .75" lower then the fronts ... might be because of the subs in the trunk, not sure.
The HP-blue's were recommended because of the price and the fact (I was told) luminas weren't much of an upgrade...and too expensive for me.
If you can recommend a better (same price if not cheaper) strut then by all means do so... I'm a total noob when it comes to suspensions. I just know what I want it to look like.
The s-techs are the only suspension I like that will help even the front and rear's out. Right now the rear is .75" lower then the fronts ... might be because of the subs in the trunk, not sure.
The HP-blue's were recommended because of the price and the fact (I was told) luminas weren't much of an upgrade...and too expensive for me.
If you can recommend a better (same price if not cheaper) strut then by all means do so... I'm a total noob when it comes to suspensions. I just know what I want it to look like.
#5
i have the tokico HP struts with tein h-tech springs. i love this setup, it has a nice drop, great handling, not too expensive, and great ride still. i think that HPs with s-techs would suck though, it would ride rough, and the shocks might blow sooner than they would if you used h-techs. you cant drop too low unless you have adjustable struts. i think hp's with h-techs are perfectly suited.
#6
yeah, I looked at those springs as well... do any of you have a 100lb+ subwoofer setup in the trunk with your new suspension? The only REAL reason I'd like my ride lowered is to fix the .75" lower rear and most of the springs out there have a near even drop... no good for me.
#7
progress springs have a nice rake when installed, so with your sub you will be even. i had them with KYB AGX and the ride was choppy because there was almost no travel in the suspension (especially in the front). maxima's suspension doesnt have a lot of travel by design, and lowering more than an inch starts to compromise things greatly. not an issue if the roads are very smooth, but i didnt like it on the streets on NY.
#10
Hey Realtight... I lowered my 99maxi about 3 years ago, and I regret it... Even though she looks AWESOME, However over time, I've noticed that it wears on the bodyframe... going over bumps, you hear more things rattle, etc..
#12
S-Techs are okay springs, but they kill most of your suspension travel and aren't quite as stiff as they need to be to keep your car from smacking the bumpstops all the time.
HPs are good on stock springs and mild lowering springs, but S-Techs are too low. You'll be running a high risk of blowing the shocks out prematurely.
If you're looking for an even drop with subs in the trunk, just find a spring kit that drops the front lower than the rear. S-Techs are definitely NOT the only ones that do that.
Don't cheap out on lowering your car. You need springs that are stiff enough to match their drop and shocks/struts that are good enough to keep the ride under control. If you cheap out, you could end up bouncing like a clown car, riding the bumpstops all day, and blowing your struts out really prematurely. The cheapest option worth considering is the Tokico HP spring-and-strut kit, which is $450: this should be the BARE MINIMUM. In all honesty, the best option in your case would most likely be Progress/Illumina for ~$600 and change.
Another option is a full coilover kit. That will run you upwards of $700, but it should be cheaper to install if the shop is being honest with you. It will ride rougher than most suspension combinations, but it will allow ride height adjustment and ELIMINATE hitting the bumpstops (except in very extreme cases).
HPs are good on stock springs and mild lowering springs, but S-Techs are too low. You'll be running a high risk of blowing the shocks out prematurely.
If you're looking for an even drop with subs in the trunk, just find a spring kit that drops the front lower than the rear. S-Techs are definitely NOT the only ones that do that.
Don't cheap out on lowering your car. You need springs that are stiff enough to match their drop and shocks/struts that are good enough to keep the ride under control. If you cheap out, you could end up bouncing like a clown car, riding the bumpstops all day, and blowing your struts out really prematurely. The cheapest option worth considering is the Tokico HP spring-and-strut kit, which is $450: this should be the BARE MINIMUM. In all honesty, the best option in your case would most likely be Progress/Illumina for ~$600 and change.
Another option is a full coilover kit. That will run you upwards of $700, but it should be cheaper to install if the shop is being honest with you. It will ride rougher than most suspension combinations, but it will allow ride height adjustment and ELIMINATE hitting the bumpstops (except in very extreme cases).
#13
Originally Posted by Realtight
yeah, I looked at those springs as well... do any of you have a 100lb+ subwoofer setup in the trunk with your new suspension? The only REAL reason I'd like my ride lowered is to fix the .75" lower rear and most of the springs out there have a near even drop... no good for me.
#14
Originally Posted by aih98max
i have 2 ten inch MTX thunder subs in a ported box with a 1440 watt amp and cap. my drop is still even, actually lower in the front with the h-techs
#15
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Do you have an auto or 5-speed? Autos often end up lower in the front than 5-speeds do.
I have a 3.6 cubic ft. custom built ported enclosure for my Assassin 12's w/a kicker 600 watt monoblock. The setup takes up half of the trunk, the box is heavy, a real beast.
#16
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Do you have an auto or 5-speed? Autos often end up lower in the front than 5-speeds do.
Originally Posted by Realtight
it's a 5-speed...
I have a 3.6 cubic ft. custom built ported enclosure for my Assassin 12's w/a kicker 600 watt monoblock. The setup takes up half of the trunk, the box is heavy, a real beast.
I have a 3.6 cubic ft. custom built ported enclosure for my Assassin 12's w/a kicker 600 watt monoblock. The setup takes up half of the trunk, the box is heavy, a real beast.
btw, what are assassin subwoofers? ive never heard of them.
#17
Originally Posted by aih98max
he was askin me, but i think since you have a 5-speed you need to get a drop that is lower in the front than in the back, it should turn out nice and even. id say get h-techs or progress springs. either should work. s-tech would also work if you want to go that low.
btw, what are assassin subwoofers? ive never heard of them.
btw, what are assassin subwoofers? ive never heard of them.
OOops, I was @ work, usually don't read through everything as throughly is I should... as for the Assassin's, Ascendant Audio makes them <they're an internet company with amazing price/performence ratio.
http://ascendantaudio.com/
my Assassin's are very close if not better in SQ and SPL then an Infinity Perfect or a JL W3.
#18
I know I'll probably get castrated for saying this, but I've been thinking about just pullin the old spring heating drop on my Max, just wondring if this is extremely ill advised, or if anyone has done it before.
thanks...
thanks...
#19
Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
I know I'll probably get castrated for saying this, but I've been thinking about just pullin the old spring heating drop on my Max, just wondring if this is extremely ill advised, or if anyone has done it before.
thanks...
thanks...
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