New Clutch, help me decide, can't search
#1
New Clutch, help me decide, can't search
Well my 97 Maxima SE finaly needs a new clutch.
Here are my options:
$200 OEM - Go to the dealer and have them replace it with OEM Parts
$115 Exedy Clutch Kit - Aftermarket, opinions?
$150 Valeo - Aftermarket, they claim they are OEM, opinions?
Sorry if this has been brought up before but some reason I can't do a search. It's been a real long time since my last post.
Here are my options:
$200 OEM - Go to the dealer and have them replace it with OEM Parts
$115 Exedy Clutch Kit - Aftermarket, opinions?
$150 Valeo - Aftermarket, they claim they are OEM, opinions?
Sorry if this has been brought up before but some reason I can't do a search. It's been a real long time since my last post.
#6
Thanks for the input. Does anyone else have the excedy clutch. I don't need a racing clutch just the standard. The real question now is if the dealer will install the excedy clutch.
WielkiWaac, compared to stock is the clutch pedal more stiff or softer? How does it compare to stock?
WielkiWaac, compared to stock is the clutch pedal more stiff or softer? How does it compare to stock?
#7
only one i would buy is the ACT Stage 1 perfect feel with the extreme pressure plate, www.nipponpower.com
#8
5th Gen clutch. If you just have basic bolt-ons it will be plenty.
These are the part #s
1. Release bearing - 30502-41U20
2. Clutch Disc (old #)- 30100-2Y904; new #-C0100-6E600
3. Clutch Cover/Pressure Plate - 30210-89F00
Read d00df00d's opinion on the clutch.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=460251
These are the part #s
1. Release bearing - 30502-41U20
2. Clutch Disc (old #)- 30100-2Y904; new #-C0100-6E600
3. Clutch Cover/Pressure Plate - 30210-89F00
Read d00df00d's opinion on the clutch.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=460251
#9
I had an ACT stage 1, didn't like it. Stiff pedal for not a lot of extra torque capacity.
Replaced it with an Exedy OEM type replacement. Handles stock torque just fine, but the pedal is even softer. Nice clutch for daily driving. I got it for $121 shipped from ProClutch on eBay. Ships by USPS Priority, so you get it good and fast too.
Dave
Replaced it with an Exedy OEM type replacement. Handles stock torque just fine, but the pedal is even softer. Nice clutch for daily driving. I got it for $121 shipped from ProClutch on eBay. Ships by USPS Priority, so you get it good and fast too.
Dave
#10
I had the Exedy Stage 1 and now I'm back to OEM just for kicks.. honestly out of all my friends and my setups the Exedy St. 1 seemed the best to me. I do hear great things about the 5th Gen setup although once again I doubt its as good for what I do as the Exedy aftermarket.
#11
I just replaced my clutch in my 95...i went with an OEM 5th gen...so far im happy with it. The pedal feels about the same, but it does perform a bit better than before. I ended up pretty much replacing everything to do with the clutch--clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing, clutch fork, slave cylinder, and had the flywheel resurfaced. I did the work my self, cause the lowest i could have it done for was $700....i called Nissan to see what they would do it for and they said 1300!!! i saved a ton doing it myself.
#12
Great info guys. Now I guess the only thing to decide is which one OEM 5th gen or Excedy OEM replacement. I use the max for daily driving so I would like to have a soft clutch for easy driving.
I have a question for those with the 5 gen clutch. Compared to stock how much more stiff is it or is it the same.
I also hear that the Excedy is a good replacement, softer than stock and good balance of performance and daily driving.
I have a question for those with the 5 gen clutch. Compared to stock how much more stiff is it or is it the same.
I also hear that the Excedy is a good replacement, softer than stock and good balance of performance and daily driving.
#13
Originally Posted by 4DRSpeed
Originally Posted by osclude
Great info guys. Now I guess the only thing to decide is which one OEM 5th gen or Excedy OEM replacement. I use the max for daily driving so I would like to have a soft clutch for easy driving.
I have a question for those with the 5 gen clutch. Compared to stock how much more stiff is it or is it the same.
I also hear that the Excedy is a good replacement, softer than stock and good balance of performance and daily driving.
I have a question for those with the 5 gen clutch. Compared to stock how much more stiff is it or is it the same.
I also hear that the Excedy is a good replacement, softer than stock and good balance of performance and daily driving.
The Exedy was good. It gripped a little harder than stock, but was easy enough to use. Nothing special. It did chatter a lot and wear out on me rather quickly, but that could have been because my brother and I totally torched it a couple of times doing stupid stuff...
Either way, the 5th gen clutch eats it alive. There's just no comparison. Engagement is smoother and more linear, but grip and heat tolerance are WAY better, and it has NEVER chattered on me. There have been a couple of incidents where I slipped it too much on hard takeoffs, usually because of my loud music and often after sitting in traffic a lot in the blistering heat (read: HIGH clutch temps). But each time, as soon as I let the pedal out fully, the clutch just grabbed without a fuss and I continued on my way. In the same situations, the Exedy would start to overheat and slip, and I'd have to drive like a granny for at least a few minutes until it cooled down. The pedal is noticeably firmer, though. I definitely feel it when I'm in heavy traffic. But that is a price I am more than happy to pay, because this clutch is better than the OEM 4th gen and Exedy OEM replacement clutches in every single other way. I literally can't go a single day without appreciating it.
Cliffs:
Exedy => soft pedal
5th gen => EVERYTHING else
Either way, get a stainless steel clutch line. It's $25 and you will love it.
#16
Originally Posted by 4DRSpeed
5th Gen clutch. If you just have basic bolt-ons it will be plenty.
These are the part #s
1. Release bearing - 30502-41U20
2. Clutch Disc (old #)- 30100-2Y904; new #-C0100-6E600
3. Clutch Cover/Pressure Plate - 30210-89F00
Read d00df00d's opinion on the clutch.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=460251
These are the part #s
1. Release bearing - 30502-41U20
2. Clutch Disc (old #)- 30100-2Y904; new #-C0100-6E600
3. Clutch Cover/Pressure Plate - 30210-89F00
Read d00df00d's opinion on the clutch.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=460251
For The Win.....I will prolly have to order mine soon
#19
I just ordered my 5th gen clutch from Everything Nissan. $240 + $22 shipping for disc, plate, release bearing, pilot bearing, rear main seal, y-pipe gaskets, and left and right axle seals.
Same stuff at Jerry Rome Nissan priced out at $290 + shipping (which the webpage wouldn't disclose at time of order).
Just the disc, plate, and release bearing were about $320 (+tax) from my local stealership.
I also picked up a SS clutch line from group deals for $25. Just need 5 quarts of MT90 and I'm ready to install. Begone slipping clutch!!!
Same stuff at Jerry Rome Nissan priced out at $290 + shipping (which the webpage wouldn't disclose at time of order).
Just the disc, plate, and release bearing were about $320 (+tax) from my local stealership.
I also picked up a SS clutch line from group deals for $25. Just need 5 quarts of MT90 and I'm ready to install. Begone slipping clutch!!!
#21
Originally Posted by 4thgenx42
ACT clutch all the way. It will last longer feel better and drive better.
#22
You guys are great, thanks for all the great info. I have decided to go with the 5th gen clutch after reading several posts. I have setup an appointment with the dealership to have the clutch replaced, labor is $690, parts are $190, and it includes resurface of the flywheel. Lets hope I don't need to replace the flywheel.
#23
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Make sure they are not installing a Key Value Clutch. Its a Nissan Brand Clutch but Very Low Quality and will slip within the first 100 miles you drive it. I would make sure they are using a genuine Nissan Clutch.
-matt
-matt
#27
Originally Posted by eckounltd287
doesn't that motor have about 20 more horsies than the 4thgen,,, so with 40hp in mods, won't it start to be insufficient?
#28
Y-Pipe (roughly 15-20 HP)
ECU (Roughly 15 HP across the entire band) [Emanage will pull more HP since it can be even more fine tuned]
Catback (Roughly 5 HP)
That makes 35 HP minimum. Shouldn't be too hard to squeeze 5 more ponies in there with more mods.
ECU (Roughly 15 HP across the entire band) [Emanage will pull more HP since it can be even more fine tuned]
Catback (Roughly 5 HP)
That makes 35 HP minimum. Shouldn't be too hard to squeeze 5 more ponies in there with more mods.
#29
Originally Posted by scrhale
Y-Pipe (roughly 15-20 HP)
ECU (Roughly 15 HP across the entire band) [Emanage will pull more HP since it can be even more fine tuned]
Catback (Roughly 5 HP)
That makes 35 HP minimum. Shouldn't be too hard to squeeze 5 more ponies in there with more mods.
ECU (Roughly 15 HP across the entire band) [Emanage will pull more HP since it can be even more fine tuned]
Catback (Roughly 5 HP)
That makes 35 HP minimum. Shouldn't be too hard to squeeze 5 more ponies in there with more mods.
Basically no it doesn't become insufficient (the clutch), some guys with the above mentioned mods and much more run on stock clutch and it does absolutely fine at the track..
I'll admit I didn't word that other post very well haha. I've been really out of it all day so excuse me.
#30
Originally Posted by eckounltd287
doesn't that motor have about 20 more horsies than the 4thgen,,, so with 40hp in mods, won't it start to be insufficient?
EDIT: Plus what Apparition said.
#31
i have the Exedy in the car right now with a resurfaced stock flywheel: it chatters like a **** at low engagement points.. is it the flywheel? i dunno. is it the clutch? eh. maybe. however the pedal pressure is feather light and engagement is very high. . i dont like it as much as the oem clutch felt.. sigh. but it was cheap.
i had the ACT HDMM in the car for a long *** time when i was supercharged, and it was mated with a mueller flywheel.. that thing gave my left leg a work out. pressure plate sucked, it was so stiff. in traffic it was terrible. however it did hold up great after years of track abuse and driving hard.
i had the ACT HDMM in the car for a long *** time when i was supercharged, and it was mated with a mueller flywheel.. that thing gave my left leg a work out. pressure plate sucked, it was so stiff. in traffic it was terrible. however it did hold up great after years of track abuse and driving hard.
#32
Originally Posted by matty
Make sure they are not installing a Key Value Clutch. Its a Nissan Brand Clutch but Very Low Quality and will slip within the first 100 miles you drive it. I would make sure they are using a genuine Nissan Clutch.
-matt
-matt
Is there a way to tell from the box or something?
#33
Just got my car back from the shop today with my new 5th gen clutch (as described in my earlier post). Whoa it's so very nice. Lighter clutch pedal, grabby right off the floor. Feels very solid (of course this is after driving with a slippy clutch for the past 2 months).
Cost:
Parts: $240 + $22 s/h (clutch + rear main seal, pilot bushing, axle seals)
4 quarts MT90: $40
Flywheel resurface: $50
Labor: $450 including tax
Cost:
Parts: $240 + $22 s/h (clutch + rear main seal, pilot bushing, axle seals)
4 quarts MT90: $40
Flywheel resurface: $50
Labor: $450 including tax
#35
One of my friend has taurus SHO, he recently put in a chemically treated clutch , If I rember correctly chemical was Koleen it basically reduces heat related wear & tear on any metal, thereby extending its's life.
You can google about koleen treatment on clutch and see if you want it
You can google about koleen treatment on clutch and see if you want it
#37
i have an act stage 1. it's nice if you like to drive more aggressively, but being stuck in chicago traffic all the time makes it kinda suck. looking back i wish i had gotten the 5th gen clutch. it would have been less expensive as well and i only have a few bolt ons.