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Old 07-29-2006 | 09:43 AM
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just bought 3.5..........

me and a good friend of mine off the org put together and bought a 3.5 yesterday.......b4 i prep it to go in my car....i need some things that are missing....are there any special brands or good quality or the products listed below that i can get?.....cheapest place to get them from????

1.wire harness for the plugs....
2.pathfinder throttle body...(ebay)?
3.5th gen clutch
4.head gasket-needs to be replaced
5.
Old 07-29-2006 | 09:52 AM
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Old 07-29-2006 | 10:00 AM
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I'm curious, what did you guys pay for it? I've been trying to find a decent 03 6 speed that's in my price range, but no luck. My next option since I want to keep my car is the engine swap route.
Old 07-29-2006 | 10:50 AM
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the real question is why does this engine need a head gasket? That is usually not a good sign, and if you have to replace it go to Nissan for that.
Old 07-29-2006 | 10:51 AM
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the real question is why does this engine need a head gasket? That is usually not a good sign, and if you have to replace it go to Nissan for that.
The headgasket is blown, check the thread in the All Motor forum.
Old 07-29-2006 | 10:59 AM
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The headgasket is blown, check the thread in the All Motor forum.
SOrry that I didn't know there was a thread in all motor about this engine. None the less a blown headgasket is not a good way to start on an engine you're getting ready to drop in your car...one can find these engines with NO problems quite easily.

Best of luck in fixing the problem
Old 07-29-2006 | 10:59 AM
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The headgasket is blown, check the thread in the All Motor forum.
im sure he knows the head gasket is blown, what he means is why is the engine blowing a head gasket in the first place ?? .. maybe the internals of the engine are in bad shape, etc... I would never buy an engine with a blown head gasket ...
Old 07-29-2006 | 11:12 AM
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well....i bought the motor from a nissan dealership.
the guy in parts said that the car that it wuz in, the guy had a small hole in his radiator. and drove it until it blew..so they replaced the motor at nissan....

and i got it for $300....
Old 07-29-2006 | 11:39 AM
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wow..I wouldnt have spent $50 for that motor. Who knows how good the block is. Could have even cracked a head when the motor overheated.

NOT a good thing to get involved in but thats just me

-matt
Old 07-29-2006 | 12:05 PM
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96asleepman,

we can get the Cehevy S10 injector plugs from autozone or advanced for a few bucks a plug.

Car-part.com has some pathfinder throttle bodies for sale on there. plus there are a few other places I might know to find them cheapers.

5th gen clutch isnt strong enough for the 3.5



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wow..I wouldnt have spent $50 for that motor. Who knows how good the block is. Could have even cracked a head when the motor overheated.

NOT a good thing to get involved in but thats just me

-matt
The Block is getting torn down to see what/if damage there is. If anything the heads could be matted with a 3.0 block and introduced to Boost.

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the real question is why does this engine need a head gasket? That is usually not a good sign, and if you have to replace it go to Nissan for that.

it would take a few hours to tear it down to get to the head gaskets, no need to pay nissan ~$90/hr to do the job. They'd take a few days on it.
Old 07-29-2006 | 12:06 PM
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so b4 i put the motor in ...is there anyway i can tell anything else is wrong with it?....i would hav to tear the whole thing down wouldnt i"?....
Old 07-29-2006 | 12:07 PM
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there are a few ways to check the block to make sure its not warped You'll see when I tear it down
Old 07-29-2006 | 12:08 PM
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iight mdeezy...im comin over inna few......call mike...lets hav a meet...lol
Old 07-29-2006 | 12:42 PM
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This motor can go one of many ways.

-This motor could have been pulled cause it was diagnosed with "blown head gasket" because the car was contiuously overheating, when it was his radiator.


If this is the case, this turns out to be a good cheap find on a motor that wasnt in as bad as shape as thought

- Blown head gaskets but block, and internals are in good shape so replacing those gaskets is all thats needed

If this is the case, lucked out and replace gaskets, install and enjoy

- Block could be warped but a machine shop maybe able to heat the block and straighten it back to spec.

If this is the case, hopefully wont cost too much to fix the block, and this could still turn out to be a good buy and motor lives on to see 300K.

-Block could be warped and not fixable, or internal damage.

If this is the case, maybe replace the damaged internal(s), or trash to block, and pick up a 3.5 block cheap or mate with a 3.0 block and see what FI can do to it.





Naturally the best outcome would be the gaskets just need to be replaced and the block is fine and the motor will live on. Once we know whats what, and Update will be posted.
Old 07-29-2006 | 12:53 PM
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How did you con your friend into helping you buy it? Did you have some kind of dirt on him?
Old 07-29-2006 | 02:01 PM
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I agree that is not the way I would want to start a build, but the price is right so hopefully it turns out in your favor.
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I agree that is not the way I would want to start a build, but the price is right so hopefully it turns out in your favor.

thats what being hoped for. We'll find out very soon.
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Don't leave me out of these shenanigans, I want in on your 3.5 drop.
Old 07-29-2006 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr33way™
Don't leave me out of these shenanigans, I want in on your 3.5 drop.
yeah lets hear it when the time comes..
Old 07-29-2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr33way™
Don't leave me out of these shenanigans, I want in on your 3.5 drop.

I wont, It wont go into the car before I let you know i'm going to do it. I'm just prepping for now, and gathering a few last parts.
Old 07-29-2006 | 02:53 PM
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lol....not a con artist....unexpected bills popped up....so ill eventually pay the rest bacc.....and ide rather fix the fuccin motor than spend more money buying one for 600 and 700 bucks.....and dont worry...ill hav it fix and runnin soon.....
Old 07-29-2006 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 96SEsleepa
lol....not a con artist....unexpected bills popped up....so ill eventually pay the rest bacc.....and ide rather fix the fuccin motor than spend more money buying one for 600 and 700 bucks.....and dont worry...ill hav it fix and runnin soon.....

you dont have to explain yourself, swing by around noon tommorow, I'll be working on both of them.
Old 07-29-2006 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 96SEsleepa
and dont worry
I'm not.....Now that Deezy's on the job

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I'm not.....Now that Deezy's on the job


I'm on top of it. A Straightedge and feeler guage will tell all.
Old 07-29-2006 | 03:55 PM
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About the worst thing that can happen is that you'll find it's had a partial seize, which would probably mean new pistons/rings and a hone. But with any luck and assuming the owner was running synthetic, s/he realised when the gasket blew that something was seriously amiss, and stopped running it then.
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Originally Posted by ThisMaxIsTight
im sure he knows the head gasket is blown, what he means is why is the engine blowing a head gasket in the first place ?? .. maybe the internals of the engine are in bad shape, etc... I would never buy an engine with a blown head gasket ...
Which is explained in the thread I mentioned, hence why I mentioned it.
Old 07-29-2006 | 04:32 PM
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so let me get this straight, you took a chance, 33% actually that the motor is in good condition and all that has to be replaced is a gasket?

We ALL know that Nissan is CHEAP and would do anything NOT to have to replace an engine. So when I put 2+2 together....they KNEW the motor was shot...figured...put a new one in...sell this to some "dude" for $300 and we're up...especially since the warranty company will likely cover the engine.

Doesn't sound like a well thought out risk. I'd put money on the fact that it will likely cost more than the $600-700 you would have spent on a running engine to get this one up...but as I said...best of luck in getting it running.
Old 07-29-2006 | 04:38 PM
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Keep us posted on the project. It sounds like it's gonna make for one sweet ride.
Old 07-29-2006 | 05:45 PM
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lol...i sure will...we'll prolly tear everything down...and analyze everything...hopefully it'll work out...and i hav a back up car if sumthin goes wrong....thanks for yalls opinions....ill keep you guys posted...
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Don't reuse those head bolts.
Old 07-29-2006 | 06:15 PM
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to all those who replied to my post....hav any of u even done a 3.5 swap?....jus curious.,...
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I would do a compression/leak down test before taking the time to do the swap...
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Originally Posted by 96SEsleepa
to all those who replied to my post....hav any of u even done a 3.5 swap?....jus curious.,...
Please explain to me WTF that has to do with anything...

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Please explain to me WTF that has to do with anything...

look smart ***....jus curious means jus curious....dont get ur panties in a twist...
Old 07-29-2006 | 08:42 PM
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We are all just giving you some pointers on choosing an engine. They are kind of "General Pointers when Getting a USED motor". I think your choice of an engine was kind of bad. I would have done it a bit different.

That goes with a 3.5 swap, a DEK swap, or a 2.4ltr swap in my truck. But thats your decision. I myself would have gone with a Low mileage, good motor without having to tear it down, having stuff measured for warpness, and fixed if somthing is bad. But again, thats just me and probably 99.5% of the guys on here. A warped block or a cracked head is kind of a bad thing.

-matt
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Originally Posted by matty
We are all just giving you some pointers on choosing an engine. They are kind of "General Pointers when Getting a USED motor". I think your choice of an engine was kind of bad. I would have done it a bit different.

That goes with a 3.5 swap, a DEK swap, or a 2.4ltr swap in my truck. But thats your decision. I myself would have gone with a Low mileage, good motor without having to tear it down, having stuff measured for warpness, and fixed if somthing is bad. But again, thats just me and probably 99.5% of the guys on here. A warped block or a cracked head is kind of a bad thing.

-matt
yea...i guess im jus anxious for the power.....im kinda in debate right now...i might jus let mdeezy keep and fix it up..and ill jus look out for a 2004-06 motor.......the guy at the dealership said that they get those motors all the time....
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Originally Posted by 96SEsleepa
look smart ***....jus curious means jus curious....dont get ur panties in a twist...
The way you asked led me to believe that you thought that our replies weren't as valid if we hadn't done the swap. If i was wrong, apologies.
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The way you asked led me to believe that you thought that our replies weren't as valid if we hadn't done the swap. If i was wrong, apologies.
naw its kool.....if that wuz the case i wouldnt be on the org...i value yall opinions alot.....but hey since ur in mia.....or anybody for that fact...keep an eye out for a motor for me....im thinkin bout gettin a bike...and jus say fucc the swap..
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Don't reuse those head bolts.

why?

I have a spare set from a 3.0, I'll have to make sure there compatible but if they are then I already have the replacement.
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Are these listed in the FSM as one of the bolts that are not to be re-used?



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