Need more power!
10-09-2006, 02:36 PM
#1
Need more power!
I need some more power. First off my mods are TRUE cai and a warpspeed y-pipe. My question is what mod should i do next for the most hp difference?? Maybe ecu, mevi, safc II, etc.... Im not sure, somebody please guide me in the right direction. I know I'm not going to blow away evo's , srt's and the mighty 3.5 but, would just like to be around 200whp.
btw my car is a 95 auto. I know the auto is going to hold me back, but I have no choice because I can't afford a 5 speed swap nor do i know any body that could do it at a resonable price.
btw my car is a 95 auto. I know the auto is going to hold me back, but I have no choice because I can't afford a 5 speed swap nor do i know any body that could do it at a resonable price.
10-09-2006, 03:16 PM
#5
Originally Posted by babymac
jwt ecu(with raised rev limiter) and mevi, how much whp are we talking with this set-up?
10-09-2006, 03:17 PM
#6
Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
00vi :shift:
10-09-2006, 03:21 PM
#7
Originally Posted by JSutter
00vi, EU, full exhaust
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10-09-2006, 03:23 PM
#9
Originally Posted by JSutter
00vi, EU, full exhaust
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10-09-2006, 03:25 PM
#11
Originally Posted by Max_Out
If you want to go the nitrous route thats an option but alot of people are afraid of it. i have a 50 shot and love it.
10-09-2006, 03:28 PM
#12
Originally Posted by TT_ReX_101
how do u drive auto...dont u get bored
10-09-2006, 03:29 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by babymac
Yes, but whats one to do?? I had a 95 stick loved it , but sold it for a bimmer. Should have kept the max. After this one takes a dump I'm looking for a 5 speed 98 se. All my parts wil be put on the 98 thats why i'm not really wasting money on these parts.
10-09-2006, 03:45 PM
#16
Originally Posted by scrhale
5Spd swap and EU for starters. Then 3.5 swap. /thread
Then maybe a engine swap, but for now its just bolt-ons.
10-09-2006, 04:21 PM
#17
For now I think I'm going with the b-pipe, jwt ecu(with raised rev limiter) and a mevi. If I don't like the mevi then I'll sell it and go for th 00vi. I just don't think I'm mechanically inclined to install a 00vi and getting those adpter plates and so forth it just seems like to much work for ME. Thanks for all the input guys it is much appreciated.
btw I love modding my car!
btw I love modding my car!
10-09-2006, 04:26 PM
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It may be hard to put down 200 whp on an auto. I dyno'd 177 hp and 185 tq with a HAI and a y-pipe with a bad knock sensor on a 5spd. It may be possible with an ecu, cat-back, y-pipe, intake, and cat-back or at least close to 200 hp on a 5 spd but I don't know about an auto. A mevi or 00vi should definately get you there.
10-09-2006, 04:30 PM
#19
Originally Posted by NYC32798
It may be hard to put down 200 whp on an auto. I dyno'd 177 hp and 185 tq with a HAI and a y-pipe with a bad knock sensor on a 5spd. It may be possible with an ecu, cat-back, y-pipe, intake, and cat-back or at least close to 200 hp on a 5 spd but I don't know about an auto. A mevi or 00vi should definately get you there.
Yeah, I know but with all the mods i listed i should get at least high 180's maybe 190 something which is ok for now until i get a 5 speed max!
10-09-2006, 05:25 PM
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MEVI + JWT = ~$1000+
EU = ~$500
MEVI = ~$500
00VI = ~$250
3.5 swap = ~$1250
00VI + JWT and you are looking at 180 easily at the wheel (160 stock at 5.5K, 00VI increased the band ALL THE WAY THROUGH REDLINE so expect at least 170-175, AND ECU raises about 15 across the whole band)
3.5 swap .... plenty of peak with lots more potential.
In conclusion,
I/Y/Cat-back/00VI = drool
I/Y/Cat-back/00VI/EU = LOTS more drool
I/Y/Cat-back/3.5 swap = dry mouth and dehydration
EU = ~$500
MEVI = ~$500
00VI = ~$250
3.5 swap = ~$1250
00VI + JWT and you are looking at 180 easily at the wheel (160 stock at 5.5K, 00VI increased the band ALL THE WAY THROUGH REDLINE so expect at least 170-175, AND ECU raises about 15 across the whole band)
3.5 swap .... plenty of peak with lots more potential.
In conclusion,
I/Y/Cat-back/00VI = drool
I/Y/Cat-back/00VI/EU = LOTS more drool
I/Y/Cat-back/3.5 swap = dry mouth and dehydration
10-09-2006, 05:35 PM
#26
Originally Posted by scrhale
Oh and yes EU can raise rev-limiter. EU is the best electric upgrade for our cars (except for stand-alone)
I will probably need some help with the 00vi install ,so a guys close to philly who know what they are doing give me a holla??
10-09-2006, 06:19 PM
#28
OK I see what you want to do. The quickest easiest way for more power is JWT/MEVI/Y/Catback/VB mod. But you can get more out of real tuning, especially with the emanage. The SAFC and AFPR is great for the money. Also the 00vi is better but much harder to install.
Yes I got an MEVI and without the ECU/tuning it only shifts the power band. I didnt gain in the 1/4 mile yet but I did gain almost 2mph. It slows you down below 80 mph. But its an easy bolt on.
Yes I got an MEVI and without the ECU/tuning it only shifts the power band. I didnt gain in the 1/4 mile yet but I did gain almost 2mph. It slows you down below 80 mph. But its an easy bolt on.
10-09-2006, 07:04 PM
#29
Originally Posted by babymac
Ok where do I get the 00vi for 250?
It should be over 180. You have stock 190 bhp and it's about 10% off to the wheels. Am I mistaken?
10-09-2006, 07:10 PM
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EU requires confidence in splicing/soldering. There is a write-up on exactly what do to in the all-motor forum. Everyone knows my position on MEVI's 
.
JSutter summed it up well ... for quick speed (not most efficient in the EXTREME long run). Without a doubt for minimal installation problems go with his setup (I can't vouch on VB mod difficulty). I think, for long run, substitute JWT for EU and leave out anyone VI to save money for an engine swap or lightweight rims.
.JSutter summed it up well ... for quick speed (not most efficient in the EXTREME long run). Without a doubt for minimal installation problems go with his setup (I can't vouch on VB mod difficulty). I think, for long run, substitute JWT for EU and leave out anyone VI to save money for an engine swap or lightweight rims.
10-09-2006, 07:13 PM
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Just to throw this out ... what does everyone think of my dream sleeper (I'll never get there within the next 2 years ... still in dream state in terms of modding): (Trying to go from order of flow here )
Stock intake, 3.5 FULL swap, UDP, headers (Y-pipe is included ... duh ), stock cat, stock B-Pipe, stock muffler, Fidanza flywheel, e-Manage Ultimate+WB02, NOS (35 or 50 shot).
I believe this setup with a VERY good driver could break 12's ... low 13's for SURE.
)Stock intake, 3.5 FULL swap, UDP, headers (Y-pipe is included ... duh
), stock cat, stock B-Pipe, stock muffler, Fidanza flywheel, e-Manage Ultimate+WB02, NOS (35 or 50 shot).I believe this setup with a VERY good driver could break 12's ... low 13's for SURE.
10-09-2006, 07:19 PM
#32
Sounds good. I would say go aftermarket b-pipe tho if you're keeping the stock muffler. I'm not a NOS fan since I'm just a daily driver. But if you're running the car then sure, should be nice and fast.
I was just wondering...any point in putting an UDP on my auto after my 00vi is done? I should have the 00vi done in a few weeks and finish my exhaust...just wondering if it would be worth it later on.
I was just wondering...any point in putting an UDP on my auto after my 00vi is done? I should have the 00vi done in a few weeks and finish my exhaust...just wondering if it would be worth it later on.
10-10-2006, 02:26 AM
#34
Originally Posted by JSutter
OK I see what you want to do. The quickest easiest way for more power is JWT/MEVI/Y/Catback/VB mod. But you can get more out of real tuning, especially with the emanage. The SAFC and AFPR is great for the money. Also the 00vi is better but much harder to install.
Yes I got an MEVI and without the ECU/tuning it only shifts the power band. I didnt gain in the 1/4 mile yet but I did gain almost 2mph. It slows you down below 80 mph. But its an easy bolt on.
Yes I got an MEVI and without the ECU/tuning it only shifts the power band. I didnt gain in the 1/4 mile yet but I did gain almost 2mph. It slows you down below 80 mph. But its an easy bolt on.
btw I'm not changing my muffler, i mean the muffler is just for sound right? I just want the b-pipe and I already have a y-pipe.
thanks again man you've been the most helpful.
10-10-2006, 04:23 AM
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Like I said, why invest in a variable intake manifold you can't use in your next Maxima? Just get the EU and B-Pipe. Anyone else agree? IMO you are thinking short term. BUT your money, your car, your choice.
10-10-2006, 06:26 AM
#36
Originally Posted by scrhale
Like I said, why invest in a variable intake manifold you can't use in your next Maxima? Just get the EU and B-Pipe. Anyone else agree? IMO you are thinking short term. BUT your money, your car, your choice.
10-10-2006, 07:17 AM
#39
Originally Posted by scrhale
Like I said, why invest in a variable intake manifold you can't use in your next Maxima? Just get the EU and B-Pipe. Anyone else agree? IMO you are thinking short term. BUT your money, your car, your choice.
10-10-2006, 07:18 AM
#40
It will work but you stated that your next max will have a 3.5 swap.. so you're getting VI with the swap, no need for MEVI.
Right now I have a warpspeed y-pipe and a 3.5 swap (exedy stage 1 clutch to handle the torque, don't forget the clutch in your calculations) and I'm loving it. Next I will probably get the EU, afte I save up a bit.
Anyone know what kind of gains I can expect with the EU?
Originally Posted by babymac
mevi won't work in a 97-99?
Anyone know what kind of gains I can expect with the EU?