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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:15 PM
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Yup. Instead of riceing (or trying to) my 2.4L Stanza I'm looking to install one of the best V6's ever made into it.

Can anyone thing of some potential problems I might run into? I'm planning on getting the engine and manual tranny from a junk yard. Will I have to get another computer? What else do you think I might run into?

Is it true that it cranks out around 250HP stock?

What about performance parts... Are there any available? Like headers, throttle bodies, NOS kits...

Let me know.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by BowDown
Yup. Instead of riceing (or trying to) my 2.4L Stanza I'm looking to install one of the best V6's ever made into it.

Can anyone thing of some potential problems I might run into? I'm planning on getting the engine and manual tranny from a junk yard. Will I have to get another computer? What else do you think I might run into?

Is it true that it cranks out around 250HP stock?

What about performance parts... Are there any available? Like headers, throttle bodies, NOS kits...

Let me know.
The '97 Maxima engine is rated at 190 horsepower. It won't fit in your Stanza's engine bay. Save your pennies and buy the new Altima with 3.5 liter V6.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:44 PM
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Too wide between the wheels or from the radiator to the firewall?
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:07 PM
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you dont have enough $$$ for this mod. Save your cash for a new car
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by infinitiblast
you dont have enough $$$ for this mod. Save your cash for a new car
Eh?
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:19 PM
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In other words its not worth the amount of money you will have to put into it.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by BowDown
Too wide between the wheels or from the radiator to the firewall?
Both. Height might be a problem too. A few minutes with a steel tape will convince you.

If you could fit the V6 into your Stanza, you would have a nose-heavy under-braked vehicle.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:23 PM
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Ya... I guess I would have to make a trip to the bone yard and measure this beast. Are their any altima engines that would give me more power? The altima was just a revamped stanza right? Hell I would even take a Honda Accord, or Eclipse motor .

I love the looks of my car, and the system that I installed. There's no parts for stanza's anywhere, and I really would like to have more power.

Any ideas for swaps? I figure I was going to replace the exhaust anyway, and I have a main bearing that's starting to make a little noise on startup... So I would most likely be pulling the engine anyway. Now's the time to make the plunge.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 05:25 PM
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Hello fellow Stanza owner

You know what I suggest you should do? Own both cars like me!

I know how you feel when you try to find parts for the Stanza. It is very damn frustrating. Swapping in a Max engine won't work. Are you interested in Pop-Chargers(cone filter)? I did a little bit of research and found out that the JWT pop charger from an 89-94 240SX fits the Stanza. This is because both cars use the KA24E. I had it installed back in March. It makes the engine sound deeper. The acceleration is improved and it performs well on the highway. Go to teamnse.com and there are headers available. I can't say anything about the headers because I don't have them.

What year is your Stanza and how many miles does it have? Mine is a 91 and it currently has 96,000 miles. It's a great, cheap, and reliable car. I love it!
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 05:29 PM
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90' Stanza with 89k on it. Now it's in great shape, before it had a couple spots with surface rust.

So you're telling me any engine part for a 240sx between those years should fit?
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 05:35 PM
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I'm not totally sure if every part fits. The only thing I know is that the intake from the 240SX fits the Stanza. Ask somebody at a local Nissan dealer. I'm sure they know what fits and what doesn't.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 06:34 PM
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well riddle me this and riddle me that..

if the Stanza has a KA24DE

that means you my friend can get a SR20DET motor and slap a turbo on it and you will have the fastest stanza...

i have heard of SR20DET Sentra's running 11's and 12's .. with the stanza being a little heavier you can look at 12's and 13's

they are cheap.. $1500 for the motor from japan.. guess you would need ECU and tranny too.. something to look into.. check www.altima.net the altima has the KA24DE motor and thy would have more info on SR20DET swaps.. or better yet.. www.se-r.net they can tell you too
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 07:25 PM
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So having the KA24E block allows me to swap engines with this one? What's the specs on it?
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 07:43 PM
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Man! That's one phat engine. There is a difference between my engine and one of an altima, it's missing the "D".

But I did find a site where a guy replace his engine in a 240SX (which has the same engine as mine) with one.

What car did this engine come out of?
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 08:08 PM
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The SR20DET?

Bluebird (Japanese Altima) Turbo - SR20DET
Silva (Japanese 240SX) Turbo - SR20DET
180SX Turbo - SR20DET
Pulsar (Jap Spec) Turbo - SR20DET
Aveneir Turbo - SR20DET


Originally posted by BowDown
Man! That's one phat engine. There is a difference between my engine and one of an altima, it's missing the "D".

But I did find a site where a guy replace his engine in a 240SX (which has the same engine as mine) with one.

What car did this engine come out of?
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 08:13 PM
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A llittle trivia.........

Did you all now that if the name didn't change the Altima would still be called a Stanza?
Next Year: A Stanza with 240HP.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 08:21 PM
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Re: A llittle trivia.........

Originally posted by deezo
Did you all now that if the name didn't change the Altima would still be called a Stanza?
Next Year: A Stanza with 240HP.
Yup... I knew that... but they also added a V6 to the Altima that the Stanza never had.

I have been looking into the SR20DET very seriously now... I have seen alot of RWD installs, but only 1 FWD install.

The search continues...
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 08:41 PM
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The Stanza has a KA24E. Meaning that it has SOHC NOT DOHC. The KA24DE is found in the Altima.

I'm no expert on the SR20DET but maybe it can be fitted into the Stanza. Anything is possible right? But you have to remember the 240SX is RWD and the Stanza is FWD. There might be fitment issues. Who knows....I'm talking out of my @ss here.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 09:14 PM
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Well they do fit these into FWD sentra's... So I would imagine it can be done.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 02:44 AM
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Yes my friend you are correct.. thanks for pointing out that he was talking out his @ss quicker than i could the SR20DET is smaller than the KA24 .. so it will fit and fit with a turbo also.. do some research man.. you might have a nice sleeper in the works.. if you want prices on SR20DET and you have AIM Instant message this guy hdsben3 he can get parts from Japan.. but stay on him.. and let him KNOW you are serious.. good luck
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Well they do fit these into FWD sentra's... So I would imagine it can be done.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 06:19 AM
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Yes my friend you are correct.. thanks for pointing out that he was talking out his @ss quicker than i could the SR20DET is smaller than the KA24 .. so it will fit and fit with a turbo also.. do some research man.. you might have a nice sleeper in the works.. if you want prices on SR20DET and you have AIM Instant message this guy hdsben3 he can get parts from Japan.. but stay on him.. and let him KNOW you are serious.. good luck
How I know that back in the V8 days you could get away with chaning a bell-housing and such. Some times you could even use a small block tranny on a big block. Does any of this hold true for newer imports? I mean is there even a remote possiblity I could use my 5-speed on this block? Prb not...
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 06:22 AM
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i don't think so.. check with the altima guys if anyone used the stock tranny.. however .. i think you are going to have to get the tranny and ecu too

Originally posted by BowDown


How I know that back in the V8 days you could get away with chaning a bell-housing and such. Some times you could even use a small block tranny on a big block. Does any of this hold true for newer imports? I mean is there even a remote possiblity I could use my 5-speed on this block? Prb not...
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 07:27 AM
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Checking my new sig .

Now it's time to start saving. I figure if I'm going to do it, might as well do it right. There's lots of parts for this engine. Will be a fall/winter project.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
.. do some research man..



SprintMax = DO THE RESEARCH FOR ME!
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 10:09 AM
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Hahaha...

Actually I have done alot of research on this motor.

Looks like the best motor Nissan makes!
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 10:15 AM
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no the VQ25DET and VQ30DET are the best motors maybe the RB26DET because its Inline Six and that gives better balance
Originally posted by BowDown
Hahaha...

Actually I have done alot of research on this motor.

Looks like the best motor Nissan makes!
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 10:26 AM
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I would just turbo the KA engine. Kits are cheaper and more low end torque is available w/ the 2.4 liter displacement. It can be powered to similar levels of hp of the SR20det series.

As for the best motor Nissan had. Well the FJ20-T w/ 33 psi boost was about 330hp. 2.0 liters and inconel exhaust valves. This was about the stock hp.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 12:33 PM
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motor swap...

save your money...my friend with a stanza, was going to swap his motor for a sr20det but found it cheaper to just buy a used supra! and it probably saved him countless hours of headachess!!! well just my two cents...good luck on your decision
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
I would just turbo the KA engine. Kits are cheaper and more low end torque is available w/ the 2.4 liter displacement. It can be powered to similar levels of hp of the SR20det series.

As for the best motor Nissan had. Well the FJ20-T w/ 33 psi boost was about 330hp. 2.0 liters and inconel exhaust valves. This was about the stock hp.
Where can these kits be found? Do you know anywhere to get cams or pistons for the KA24E? I mean if i can mod this engine a little I'll keep it, if not a SR20DET might be better.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
I would just turbo the KA engine. Kits are cheaper and more low end torque is available w/ the 2.4 liter displacement. It can be powered to similar levels of hp of the SR20det series.

As for the best motor Nissan had. Well the FJ20-T w/ 33 psi boost was about 330hp. 2.0 liters and inconel exhaust valves. This was about the stock hp.
Man... that's one massive engine then. What was it used in?
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 12:19 PM
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if you want your stanza go with the SR20DET, they do fit FWD aps and they are cheap...~1500~ my friend quoted me at that with installation free and i dont even think you have to change the tranny... i'm no expert but from i kno my friend didnt swap his tranny because the KA24E used the Silvia tranny.. i would guess it would be the same thing... my friends had one in his 240SX for 5-6 years now and he has never had a problem with it... if ur in LA i think i can hook u up with a shop... its pretty straight forward... the SR20DET is a great engine... its really flexible and reliable its perfect for swaps
the 200SX boards and the 240SX boards will have alot more info...
where are you btw? and i know what you mean about Stanzas... haha no one drives them anymore... it'd be tite... good luck man...
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 12:25 PM
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oh yea... the specs... my friend says he's running 260hp around... but he says the engine can hang 450 in race situations... i dont know what Psi he's running
and he's in Taiwan now so he's running low boost cuz there are no shops there and he's the only one in the country with an SR20DET... and he can whup Impreza Turbo's a**** the WRX versions not the 22Bs
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 12:46 PM
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I live in Central NY. So it seems like I maybe have to have it shipped. That's good to hear that he didn't have to swap out his transmission. That makes it alot easier to install.

I'm going to continue to save right now. But I hope to be seriously shopping in a couple months.

I didn't want to use turbo on my motor mainly because it already has a main bearing rattle at startup (that I would have to fix), and there's no parts. I want to rip this puppy down like an old V8 and add some hopup parts.
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 04:11 PM
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well if its any help theres a cheap shop that will do everything for ~2000 in Montreal (forgive me i have no idea where that city is is but it sounds cold and far away from socali )
then theres a guy in VA who does them too...

check out the Infiniti G20 Forum... and then check out their links to the Se-R net

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...hp?forumid=803

i_rebel@yahoo.com this guy's froiend runs the shop in VA so just email him if ur interested... he's looking for customers
Old Jul 1, 2001 | 05:25 AM
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On Saturday, my dad and I went to a friend's car shop(He used to work at the Nissan dealer where my dad bought the Max from). He has lots of Maximas and Z-cars. There was one Sentra SE-R and it was the first time I saw the SR20DE motor. I have to say it's one good looking motor and sounds more refined than a Stanza motor too.

It was a good thing BowDown started this thread. It is giving me some ideas now on modding the Stanza. When I'm finished modding the Max then I might consider doing something with the Stanza.
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