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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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HELP: Car will not move. Clutch in or out. 5 spd.

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He seems to be having a problem with his car not moving after he installed new zenn springs. He drove the car fine the day before. After he installed the front springs he went to turn the car around to do the rear springs in his garage. He starts the car puts it into 1st. Lets the clutch all the way out and the car does not move. But yet the car is still running. he then tries shifting into the other gears with the same results. No gears will allow him to move. Yet the clutch pedal is all the way out.

Can someone shed some light here? I told him he may need to bleed the clutch or need a new master cylinder but the car still runs. I have never heard of such.
Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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any help would be greatly appreciated, this is just really beggining to aggrivate me really bad
Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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with the car off, have someone push the clutch pedal while you watch/feel the piston coming out of the slave cylinder. It probably won't move enough for the clutch to disengage. If it does move a reasonable amount, then there is probably something wrong with the metal arm/release bearing/pivot ball, or the clutch itself. My money is on it being the master or slave cylinder though, or he cut/tore the line somewhere installing his suspension.
Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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^^^but there are no lines by the wheel wells but the brake lines
Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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^^^but there are no lines by the wheel wells but the brake lines
I know, I didn't/don't know if you/he were/was doing anything else at the same time. I usually do more than one maintenance item/upgrade at a time. I would guess the slave just went out then. Bleeding is easy, but if he wasn't in that area at all it shouldn't need to be bled, especially if there were no previous symptoms of air in the lines. Swap the slave out w/ a known good one or replace it first if the piston doesn't/barely travels with someone else depressing the clutch. The master is more $ and fails less frequently.
Just looking it over thoroughly should reveal the problem though. It's a pretty simple system. Note fluid in reservoir then pump a few times. Is there less now? Then you are leaking it somewhere, just find where.
Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Did the person remove the drive shafts in the process? A broken drive axle will produce a no go situation. There really isn't much someone can do which would affect a car like that, check and make sure he didn't pull an axle out of the trans or hurt it in another way. Put it on stands and look while someone enganes the clutch. Better info would lead to better answers though, if that is not the problem, let us know if the clutch pedal feels good, if the shifter is fully engaging in all the gears, also if the clutch master has fluid, and any other relavant info. Get specific.
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mikem29ss
Did the person remove the drive shafts in the process? A broken drive axle will produce a no go situation. There really isn't much someone can do which would affect a car like that, check and make sure he didn't pull an axle out of the trans or hurt it in another way. .
Mike's got it sort of...

What has happened is one of his CV joints seperated in the boot. The actual joint has come off the axle shaft while he had the hub disconnected from the strut. I've had that happen to me during an install. Now the driveshaft is spinning, but not the CV joint. This can easily be corrected, but it's a messy job. First figure out which side came apart. See which axle spins when the car is in gear. Then take that boot apart by breaking the large band, slide it back and you'll see the CV joint just hanging out. You need to put the CV back onto the splined shaft. It's going to be completely full of CV grease which makes the job extreamly messy. Get a tube of new axle grease and either a new band (you need a special tool to tighten it) or just use a zip tie to secure the boot back onto the axle. Your local auto parts store will have both. Good luck and make sure you have lots of paper towles and rags.
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Mike's got it sort of...

What has happened is one of his CV joints seperated in the boot. The actual joint has come off the axle shaft while he had the hub disconnected from the strut. I've had that happen to me during an install. Now the driveshaft is spinning, but not the CV joint. This can easily be corrected, but it's a messy job. First figure out which side came apart. See which axle spins when the car is in gear. Then take that boot apart by breaking the large band, slide it back and you'll see the CV joint just hanging out. You need to put the CV back onto the splined shaft. It's going to be completely full of CV grease which makes the job extreamly messy. Get a tube of new axle grease and either a new band (you need a special tool to tighten it) or just use a zip tie to secure the boot back onto the axle. Your local auto parts store will have both. Good luck and make sure you have lots of paper towles and rags.

you have hit the jackpot, my pass side cv joint came out of the tranny. the trans is spinning but its not connected so therefore causing my problem. would i have to get a new axle or can i just put it back in? how does it stay secured in place in the tranny?
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by idriveamaxima
you have hit the jackpot, my pass side cv joint came out of the tranny. the trans is spinning but its not connected so therefore causing my problem. would i have to get a new axle or can i just put it back in? how does it stay secured in place in the tranny?

There is a snap ring on the end of the shaft that inserts into the transmission, this holds the shaft in place while making it harder to insert.

Just put the shaft back in and you should be golden.
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Well actually his joint came out. The cv joint came disconnected is what he means.
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