ok there are currently 2 clutch lines being sold on here 1 from derrick in the group buy section, and from A33 VQ30DEK in the general buy section. tell me if this is right or not. a33's runs from the master to the slave, and derricks runs from the slave to the clutch. if any one knows whats the benefits of each piece, or is it better to just get both???

 

Buy the one from the Master to the Slave. You elimate all of the hard lines and your soft line and put in the SS from your slave run it around and up onto your Master Cylinder. I removed my Master Cylinder to get the line onto it.

Please take the time and take ALL Of the metal lines that run in that section. Be patient but all of the lines should come out. After, it looks really really clean

-matt

 

I have the shorter one works great. I dont see a need for the longer one unless you were doing a 5 speed conversion.

 

I would like the longer one but last time i spoke to the guy selling the longer ones he said that we would have to wait for another group deal...I still dont have one. I just bought a new line from the slave to clutch from nissan wish I woulda grabbed a ss one first

 

The longer one totally does away with the upper bleeder and all of the metal lines that located around the brake master cylinder

-matt

 

Yes but what does that prove? Seems like way more work for the same goal.

Can anyone confirm its affect on pedal feel by taking out the hardlines? I have heard it makes the pedal slightly stiffer.

 

Dammit, there was a thread that had a few ppl who noticed a difference, enough to speak up.. Too lazy though, as usual.

 

ok so if i ge both SS lines that pretty much means...i MIGHT have stiffer clutch feel, and cleaning up the hardlines from the master to the slave correct???

 

The main benefit of the SS line that goes form the aster to the slave is, like sutter said, it is really good when doing a 5speed swap, but also it makes bleeding your clutch line much easier because you eliminate on the the bleeders. And it makes that section of the engine bay look nicer.

Ive driven maximas with the stock line, with derricks line and with A33s line and, honestly I cant tell a difference between any of them, if anything the one from A33 might be just slightly stiffer. If there is nothing wrong with your stock rubber line, just leave it. If you burst your stock line, might aswel get either SS one. If your doing a 5speed swap, get the one from A33.

 

you dont get both, you get one or the other. the one from derrik only replaces the lower rubber line. the one from A33 replaces everything and goes form the slave to the MC.

 

ok so whats wrong with having stainless from the master all the way through to the clutch???

 

Nothing is wrong with it. It simplifies the line, eliminates a bleeder and makes it all look nice. Its just more difficult to install than the line that only replaces the rubber part.

 

ok so the with a33's you have to remove the bleeders, and any hardlines that run from the master to the slave, and with derricks its just removing the rubber hose from the slave to the clutch and replacing it with the SS line

 

Ok, here is a crude illustration;




Derriks line replaces just that lower rubber line, everything else stays.

A33VQ30DEK's line replaces everything; the lower rubber line, the metal line and that first bleeder that is on the metal line. Leaving you with just one bleeder, the one on the slave.

 

ok so neither of them replace the line from the slave to the clutch. they only replace the line from the the slave to the master wether it be keeping the hardline, or removing the hardline

 

You keep talking about the line from the slave to the clutch. What are you talking about? All there is, is the metal line and the rubber line between the MC and the slave. the slave is on the clutch. The slave pushes on a levar which pushes the throwout bearing into the clutch preassure plate. There are no lines after the slave.

 

ok i was confused i didn't realize that the slave was on the clutch itself my fault sorry bout that, well if thats the cas i might as well shell out the extra $5 remove the hard line, and have the line from the master to the slave

 

Does anyone know where I can find a 'How to install SS clutch line' thread or tutorial?

 

theres really no use to buy the whole thing if your car is MT already also for those with stock cars on stock clutch this is even unnecessary ,your stock line delivers enough pressure,this ss line are better for those running high performance clutches i rather invest on SS brake lines where even with stock brakes is a benefit

when you depress your clutch fpedal fluid travel through the line until it reaches the slave there it encounters resistance so rubber line tends to expands because there is no other way for the fluid to go thats the real benefit of SS because is a rubber line covered with a very tight ss braid that prevents the rubber from expanding thus applying all the force/fluid forward

but keep in mind that just because now rubber won't expands more pressure is applied to the slave and more pressure on the master rubber piston thats why many people also change their master and slaves for better ones thats what 240sx owners do either get tokico or Z32 masters and nismo or nabco slaves

 

Its two bolts. Follow the line to where it bolts up to the master and slave cylinders, unbolt it and bolt in the new one. Not that hard.

 

thanks alot !!

 

I got the one that goes from the slave to the mastercylinder, it really does get rid of alot of unneeded lines in there that look like *** and can be removed once you put the SS line in there. It also makes the clutch a TON easier to bleed. If you had a really old line before that was possibly swelling or whatever then you may feel a difference, but otherwise it just works for the other reasons- and will last longer than a new stock line.

One thing though, I read somewhere that the reason that the stock hardlines were so long is that there was supposed to be a certain amound of fluid barrier in the lines so that you could not feel the roughness of the engine throught the clutch pedal- and that is for good reason. When I put in the SS line, it is alot shorter and that large resovior of fluid in the long coil of hardline is gone now, so I can feel some very slight vibration in the clutch when pushing more than half way down on the clutch pedal- but you get used to it though and it's no biggy realy...

-Matt

 

I put my SS on and I noticed no difference between the stock rubber line, and my new SS one. The SS that just replaced the lower rubber line.

So bleeding after one uses A33s SS line would be done just by bleeder #2 on the slave. Sounds easier, it would be less trouble some to bleed only one line, rather than two.