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Old 12-13-2006 | 07:23 PM
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Dissection of a B pipe & why you need a new one!!!

I dont need to say much for this one:

S pipe inlet (behind cat):



S pipe outlet:


Crush behind resonator:


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Old 12-13-2006 | 07:41 PM
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Talk about major restriction.
Old 12-13-2006 | 07:49 PM
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holy crap, that is really restrictive. I Really want to get an aftermarket b-pipe now.
Old 12-13-2006 | 07:49 PM
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I have both of those replaced, other problem areas?

What does the id of the bend over the rear axle look like?
Old 12-13-2006 | 07:52 PM
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I have a 2.5 to 2 (or 2.25?) gradual reducer in place of the s and the resonater/crush removed and replaced with stock diameter (runs until the bend before the axle). It still gets smaller over the axle but I have been reading into gradual reduction (Dave B mentioned it ahwhile back).
Old 12-13-2006 | 08:38 PM
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i'm looking to put a pipe to bypass all that.. think i should bend a new one to go over the axle while i'm at it?
Old 12-13-2006 | 10:48 PM
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did you replace this all with a resonated or non resonated b-pipe?
Old 12-14-2006 | 12:11 AM
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Thanks for the pics. I hated the stock B. Good thing I have a Cattman now.
Old 12-14-2006 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gen4maxima536
did you replace this all with a resonated or non resonated b-pipe?
I have a Stillen B pipe, which are non resonated.
Old 12-14-2006 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JSutter
I have a Stillen B pipe, which are non resonated.
Orly................
Old 12-14-2006 | 07:30 AM
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Courtesy B-pipe

I have one, and it bolts after the S-section attached to the cat. At least I no longer have the crush section after the resonator!
Old 12-14-2006 | 01:05 PM
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Aftermarket b-pipe ftw!
Old 12-14-2006 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JSutter
I have a Stillen B pipe, which are non resonated.
My B pipe is crashed after the resonator exactly like yours.
Do you have any improvement in gas mileage afer replacement ?
Old 12-14-2006 | 03:16 PM
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What it the consensus on dyno improvements?

Naturally, for turbos it will be a much bigger difference, so I'm more curious about stock setups.

Dave
Old 12-14-2006 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ewuzh
Thanks for the pics. I hated the stock B. Good thing I have a Cattman now.
I love my cattman.
Old 12-14-2006 | 04:34 PM
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I dont know the diameter above the axle but since most of the piping is about 2" Im sure its smaller where its bent. I tossed that section away since its not that interesting to look at. The S pipe and crush/crimp on the other hand.....

The Courtesy pipe is nice but since it bolts to the S pipe its not a good design. Gregs Garage page had a good write up about that. He modded the pipe to remove the S pipe, good idea in my mind.

I didnt notice gas milage differences. I havent put all that many miles on my car lately. I would assume it would go up a bit, possible not enough to notice with my driving style. I get like 200-250 to a tank. If I go on a long trip Ill get 400 or so.

Motorvate.ca dynoed a b pipe, check his site out. I think the numbers were 4-8 hp at various points.
Old 12-14-2006 | 05:52 PM
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jsutter thanks so much for the exhaust kit dissections. this is really awesome, what are you going to dissect next??
Old 12-14-2006 | 07:39 PM
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all he has left is to skin the cat.
Old 12-15-2006 | 06:11 AM
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How does it sound now without a resonator? It shouldn't sound too bad if you have the stock muffler, but any aftermarket muffler will sound like ***. Budget B-pipe FTW.
Old 12-15-2006 | 06:58 AM
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do the budget/cattman bolt straight to the cat instead of the s-pipe? what's courtesy's site?
Old 12-15-2006 | 10:44 AM
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the dam maxima has to many dam pipes, Ypipe, Bpipe, Spipe, Test pipe WTF

i love how simple my other car is 4" DP/ 4" MP/ Apex Exhaust, Done and gains are 50-80rwhp + 2-3 hundred rpm spoolup increase, and the whole Exhaust system is as straight as an arrow with almost no bends
Old 12-15-2006 | 10:51 AM
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Next up is the resonator, actually I took pix of that too. I will post them up.

I have punched out 2 cats, one a Carsound (2.5" in and out) the other a stock (2.5" in and 2.75" out). After looking at both there is no reason to buy an aftermarket cat, unless your tune will ruin the inside. They dont do anything for N/A setups thats for sure.

My car has a stock muffler and is really loud for what it is. With an aftermarket, read unequal length, Y pipe the sound sucks no matter what cat back you run.

90% of the cat backs and B pipes will bolt directly to the cat. Courtesy, and others like Megan bolt to the S pipe, which is used on the 97/98's. The Courtesy pipes are no longer made but were available from Courtesy Nissan in TX. Cattman, Budget, Warpspeed, Stillen will all bolt up in place of the stock 4th gen B, ALL years.
Old 12-15-2006 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gx2nds4
do the budget/cattman bolt straight to the cat instead of the s-pipe? what's courtesy's site?
http://www.courtesyparts.com

I believe they discontinued the Courtesy b-pipe a long time ago.
Old 12-15-2006 | 01:48 PM
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This is very good information to know. +1
Old 12-15-2006 | 04:45 PM
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the dyno results on motorvate are of an unresonated, non-mandrel bent 2.5, how much of a difference would it be compared to a resonated mandrel bent 2.5?
Old 12-15-2006 | 07:28 PM
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A resonated pipe wont affect HP numbers.
One thing I have noticed with my setup ( Warpspeed y budget unresonated B with a stock muffler) is that the gas pedal is alot firmer and is more sensitive. I love it. Any one else noticed this?
Old 12-15-2006 | 10:11 PM
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I sent you an LP custom for a reason.. Yet here you are still dissection things on your car.
Old 12-16-2006 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mazzivart
A resonated pipe wont affect HP numbers.
One thing I have noticed with my setup ( Warpspeed y budget unresonated B with a stock muffler) is that the gas pedal is alot firmer and is more sensitive. I love it. Any one else noticed this?

how does it sound though with the unresonated b pipe
Old 12-17-2006 | 09:40 AM
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I have a Budget stainless steel y-pipe, coupled with a K&N panel filter.

I am thinking of getting a Budget stainless steel B-pipe, with the resonator, in about a year after I go through emissions testing.

I have a new OEM muffler and am not into noise.

Would I expect 4 to 8 whp gains like shown on www.motorvate.ca, or would the addition of the resonator minimize the hp advantage reflected in the dyno results?
Old 12-17-2006 | 11:05 AM
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Wow... thats a really neat bit of info. When i get a maxima ill have to look into that. Maybe thats what made my Acura Legend so sluggish?
Old 12-20-2006 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LiGhtSoUt
how does it sound though with the unresonated b pipe
Well it drones with little throttle and kinda makes a weird vibrate noise. Other then that at WOT it sounds nice and deep.
Old 12-20-2006 | 09:26 PM
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I know what you mean about the vibrate noise, it sounds like its vibrating but its not. I think i am just going to go with a budget b-pipe and maybe apexi ws-2 muffler. if not just keep my superturbo.
Old 12-20-2006 | 09:37 PM
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will a 5th gen catback bolt up to our car?

I think of it like this..
The undercarage of the 95-99 are ALL the same, BUT I believe the 99-03(if not, then 00-03) just bolt up before the before the axle appose to after.

SO... I jacked up the max and slid a stock 5.5 catback under the car, and EVERYTHING seemed to line up, the hanger right after the resonator was a LITTLE different, but still fit. So with a aftermarket y(with adjustable flange) I should be able to get the 5.5 cat back on there, right?




So if that works, should I be able to fit a greddy EVO II catback on there?
Old 08-22-2007 | 05:04 PM
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bump for conversation
Old 08-22-2007 | 05:10 PM
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Oh and b/c ppl wanted to see the resonator


Old 08-22-2007 | 06:53 PM
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that's stock resonator right?
Old 08-22-2007 | 09:54 PM
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time to replace my exhaust. Nice pics of the stock exhausts
Old 08-22-2007 | 10:06 PM
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yeah replace that and u fail emissions, even warmed up. i duno about ur local laws, but here emissions are pretty tight to pass
Old 08-23-2007 | 05:11 PM
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this is not a cat
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