frisballs17

i have a 97 gle with 158k on it, automatic trans. i noticed a shift hesitation when the car shifts into 3rd or 4th gear, i cant tell because i never really pay close attention. the transmission never does it under any kind of hard acceleration. it will shift through 1st and 2nd fine but when it get to 3 rd or 4th it stops accelerating the rpms go up a little then it shifts. it all happens quickly though. do you think my transmission is going or do i just need a power flush???

thanks

2da mizzax

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check the fluid before you flush. pieces of metal and dont flush it as it will prb cause failure faster.

frisballs17

i was gonna bring it to a transmission shop where they hook the machine up to it that gets all the loose particles in there. but its definently not failing??? i couldnt afford a new transmission right now.

heynow

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LOL, I have the exact same car as you dude, (only i have 128K). Pay attention as to when the shifts are rough. It's normal to experince rough 1-2 or 3-4 shifts when the car isn't warmed up. Once it gets to operating temp, it smothes out completely. Now my 3rd-4th shift is a different stroy. If the shift happens @ 35mi/hr @ 1700rpm, i get a nudge and go down to 1300rpm. NOW if i make sure it shifts @ 2Krpm, the shift is seamless (which makes me think that there's some looseness in my tranny mounts). It's all upto your traffic conditions. I turn OD-off iif i'm stuck in traffic fluuctuating from 30-40. Learn how ur tranny shifts, and don't make unnessasary shifts. If you know you're gonna have to slow down, ease off the throttle earlier, BEFORE the tranny shifts.

that's mine 2 cents.

heynow

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oh, and a flush is a no-no @ our mileage. The metal shavings floating around in our fluid are actually helping our already worn gears get a better grip (beleive it or not, it's a general conscensus) There are horror stories of people dropping the pan/flushing their neglected trannies and making things worse!

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO, You could pour 1/2 a pint of seafoam transtune into your old fluid, drive around a bit, drain the old fluid and put it Mobil 1 Synthetic.....That sure helped my shifting!

2da mizzax

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you do know that is a flush right?

heynow

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uhhh......i'm shocked and apalled! I thought "flush" is when you disconnect the lines from the tranny and pump new fluid in until there's no more old fluid coming out? while what I was reffering to was a drain/re-fill where like 1/4 (or more) of the old fluid remains.

pmohr

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It's not quite a flush, when you drain you'll get maybe 3-4 quarts from the pan and whatever drips from above the VB, but the TC, lines, and cooler still have all the old fluid in them.

willard00

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heres what ide do since i got RAPED when my tranny went:

take it to a shop ASAP and get it looked at. explain to them what you said to us. i knew mine was gunna crap the bed soon, but i still waited til i only had first gear. it cost me nearly $2000 to have rebuilt. they said if i braught it sooner it would have been hundreds less.

if youre set on doing a fluid change then ill say this:

if the tranny has started crapping the bed when you go to change the fluid it will be very thick/dark(cause its burnt). if so, DO NOT change the fluid. screw the cap back on as fast as u can and add just a little more(about what u think came out). this is because the thick fluid will help hold your already in pieces tranny together. then i would take it to a shop and get it looked at. if the fluid is still red (almost like new fluid, not dark red), then a fluid flush shouldnt hurt anything.

2da mizzax

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It is a flush. it may not be a complete flush but if your tranny is going doing what you stated will fk it up just as bad.

frisballs17

thanks

wikidminds

I know what ur talking bout.
i just swapped my tranny cuz it stopped entirely going into 4th gear. it would go to 1st 2nd then 3rd...no 4th.
so imagine doing 40mph at 3k rpm. it turned out that the solenoids in tranny were bad which cost $400 at the dealer. i put that $400 into a 98 tranny with 48k miles on it.

prior to this happening....at around 80k miles i took my car to da dealer to do a tranny flush. I honestly think that this is what caused my problems with the transmission.

is ur check engine light on?
is ur OD light flashing when u turn on ur car?

whatever u do dont flush ur tranny. ur only asking for more problems to arise.

heynow

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S!hit wikidminds, that sux!! I'm sorry to hear that. You got me a little worried here. I've heard that the '97 model specifically have issues with the solenoids and supposedly cause "premature wear" on the gears. But at least you got a good deal on a very good tranny

heynow

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2da mizzax, when i recently drained my ATF, only ~5 quarts came out, which still left almost just as much fluid in the pan, tc, etc.

2da mizzax

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which means you are still driving around with 1/3 of a seafoam transtune treatment still in your tranny system, and you have now flushed away 2/3 of whatever was holding the dying tranny together.

heynow

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seeing how my fluid was in good condition with no shavings in it, i don't see how it would be all that bad

willard00

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doesnt matter if theres shavings, the thing to look for is if its really thick and/or dark red.

heynow

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AKA...burned

Dexter

my OD light comes on sometimes when I turn ON and shuts off a few seconds later (no flash just on and off before I even start) should I start hunting for a used tranny? (127K on the ODO)

frisballs17

the car still does it even when its warmed up

heynow

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you mean the light?

frisballs17

i was driving my car today and i noticed exactly what the problem was, when the car shifts into overdrive the rmps jump up like 500 rmps before it shifts, it does it only when its all the way warmep up and when im not on the gas at all

kil2board

how about this one. car has NO hard shifts one day, then the next it sucks at life. i know great technical term.

okay. car drives FINE in normal city conditions (minus the infamous 2-1 shift @ a rolling stop) but in stop n go on the highway and occasionally on sidestreets after warmup my tranny becomes really rough and has a vibration slowing down to stop and in idle.



checked fluid every 3k its gradually gotten darker and smells somewhat burnt but i wouldnt say burnt. the fluid is still thin as well.

should i just flush it or kill it.