Superpro Beam Axle Pivot Bushing fits A32
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Damn I know but I have been really lazy lately. I haven't really worked any of my cars in the last 3-4 weeks. I finally got an air compressor so I tossed in my ES motor mounts. Thats about the extent of my wrenching in the past month. My buddy took back his torches which I planned on using to use for the trailing arm bushings. I will get to them sooner than later.
#45
did you ever put these on? I know that on my sentra, i actually removed the superpro ones i had installed and replaced with stock because of the bind it put on that suspension.
im curious to find out how this works on the maxima.
also where in the heck did you find a superpro dealer!!! i cant seem to find one anywhere on google :/
im curious to find out how this works on the maxima.
also where in the heck did you find a superpro dealer!!! i cant seem to find one anywhere on google :/
#46
What bind? These reduce the smaller OEM rubber bushing's slop and alignment changes under cornering and even vertical suspension movement. Side to side play should all come from the lateral link, not where the ScottR bolts to the frame. I can't prove it yet but I'd think this would help a saavy driver better "feel" snap oversteer beforehand.
Try Tein channels now for SuperPro products. Chuck/Octotat is out of the loop.
Try Tein channels now for SuperPro products. Chuck/Octotat is out of the loop.
#47
What bind? These reduce the smaller OEM rubber bushing's slop and alignment changes under cornering and even vertical suspension movement. Side to side play should all come from the lateral link, not where the ScottR bolts to the frame. I can't prove it yet but I'd think this would help a saavy driver better "feel" snap oversteer beforehand.
Try Tein channels now for SuperPro products. Chuck/Octotat is out of the loop.
Try Tein channels now for SuperPro products. Chuck/Octotat is out of the loop.
But that is a sentra....I was curious how this worked on the maxima because of the different rear suspension setup with the beam that is on these cars.
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I hate to say it, but no I never installed these. Ive kicked myself many of times as its been so long. I haven't worked on my max for almost a year now. Im still running winter rubber!
Funny I have full poly ES setup on the front of my A32 and full ES setup on the rear of my B13. No noises on either.
Funny I have full poly ES setup on the front of my A32 and full ES setup on the rear of my B13. No noises on either.
#49
I hate to say it, but no I never installed these. Ive kicked myself many of times as its been so long. I haven't worked on my max for almost a year now. Im still running winter rubber!
Funny I have full poly ES setup on the front of my A32 and full ES setup on the rear of my B13. No noises on either.
Funny I have full poly ES setup on the front of my A32 and full ES setup on the rear of my B13. No noises on either.
if you still havent installed these on your max...wanna sell em?
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I finally installed them. Installation was done with beam on the car. I unbolted the bottom shock bolt to let the trailing arms hang better. I had a hole saw that fit perfectly around the old bushings. After drilling them out I burned and scraped the rest of the rubber out. Much easier than when I test fit them using a torch to burn them out completely. It was still awkward working with the beam installed.
No review now, probably never will be able to give an accurate review on handling either. Ive had so many suspensions and I cant remember the last time I actually flogged it around turns with a similar setup to what I have now sans the bushings. I guess I should have done so before I installed them. I do know Id rather have the bushings over a RSB. The RSB was not a comfortable mod. For daily driving I cant tell these bushings are in.
Now I just need to install the WSP sub frame connectors Ive had for ever.
No review now, probably never will be able to give an accurate review on handling either. Ive had so many suspensions and I cant remember the last time I actually flogged it around turns with a similar setup to what I have now sans the bushings. I guess I should have done so before I installed them. I do know Id rather have the bushings over a RSB. The RSB was not a comfortable mod. For daily driving I cant tell these bushings are in.
Now I just need to install the WSP sub frame connectors Ive had for ever.
#51
I finally installed them. Installation was done with beam on the car. I unbolted the bottom shock bolt to let the trailing arms hang better. I had a hole saw that fit perfectly around the old bushings. After drilling them out I burned and scraped the rest of the rubber out. Much easier than when I test fit them using a torch to burn them out completely. It was still awkward working with the beam installed.
No review now, probably never will be able to give an accurate review on handling either. Ive had so many suspensions and I cant remember the last time I actually flogged it around turns with a similar setup to what I have now sans the bushings. I guess I should have done so before I installed them. I do know Id rather have the bushings over a RSB. The RSB was not a comfortable mod. For daily driving I cant tell these bushings are in.
Now I just need to install the WSP sub frame connectors Ive had for ever.
No review now, probably never will be able to give an accurate review on handling either. Ive had so many suspensions and I cant remember the last time I actually flogged it around turns with a similar setup to what I have now sans the bushings. I guess I should have done so before I installed them. I do know Id rather have the bushings over a RSB. The RSB was not a comfortable mod. For daily driving I cant tell these bushings are in.
Now I just need to install the WSP sub frame connectors Ive had for ever.
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I didnt keep track of time, 3 hrs maybe. I must have fumbled 1/2 the time on getting out the 1st old bushing and another 1/4 on installing the it. The other side was cake. If I had to redo the whole thing it would take about an hour.
#54
I'll put mine in after two years.
I track this car heavily so I should get a good idea what they improve on. I'm not planning on another track event this year, but I can test them out on my hometown "track".
oh and sergofast Haven't seen you around since the beam bending party in '06.
I track this car heavily so I should get a good idea what they improve on. I'm not planning on another track event this year, but I can test them out on my hometown "track".
oh and sergofast Haven't seen you around since the beam bending party in '06.
#55
I'll put mine in after two years.
I track this car heavily so I should get a good idea what they improve on. I'm not planning on another track event this year, but I can test them out on my hometown "track".
oh and sergofast Haven't seen you around since the beam bending party in '06.
I track this car heavily so I should get a good idea what they improve on. I'm not planning on another track event this year, but I can test them out on my hometown "track".
oh and sergofast Haven't seen you around since the beam bending party in '06.
#56
I'll put mine in after two years.
I track this car heavily so I should get a good idea what they improve on. I'm not planning on another track event this year, but I can test them out on my hometown "track".
oh and sergofast Haven't seen you around since the beam bending party in '06.
I track this car heavily so I should get a good idea what they improve on. I'm not planning on another track event this year, but I can test them out on my hometown "track".
oh and sergofast Haven't seen you around since the beam bending party in '06.
#57
Oh I see. The max has been good, full on corner balanced coilovers and R-compound tires make for a fun track car. The beam bending has helped a bit with combating understeer without the binding and poor ride quality of a RSB. I forget how it's like until I drive a non treated 4th gen. Granted the car still has a bit of understeer and always will.
#58
You cant just bend it....you have to have a special jig and know what your doing or you will ruin your beam and have to replace it.
If you can get it done...do it....it makes the max come alive!
#59
Search the Sentra forums and see if they still do the beam bending parties. I drove all the way to Virginia beach to get mine done. You have to make the effort.
#61
Take a look over on sr20forum.com there is alot of information on it in the chassis &suspension and b14 section.
#62
I finally installed them. Installation was done with beam on the car. I unbolted the bottom shock bolt to let the trailing arms hang better. I had a hole saw that fit perfectly around the old bushings. After drilling them out I burned and scraped the rest of the rubber out. Much easier than when I test fit them using a torch to burn them out completely. It was still awkward working with the beam installed.
Anyways I put them in the freezer and will try again tomorrow when I have some time.
#65
Ok I got them in tonight. I used some 60 grit sandpaper to clean up the metal sleeves of any residual old bushing and then greased them up. The new bushings popped in with the help of the screwdriver and I was able to bolt the rear suspension back together. I will set the final TQ on the trailing arms when the car is back on the ground. I'm waiting for some other parts to come in and finish the work on my car. Sometime next week it should be back on the road and I will post back my results.
Even better in September I may go back to the same road course I just drove recently. The only difference in the suspension will be these bushings, so it should be a good back to back test.
Even better in September I may go back to the same road course I just drove recently. The only difference in the suspension will be these bushings, so it should be a good back to back test.
#67
Got the car on the road last weekend. These bushings feel a little bit better on turns and there isn't much change in the ride quality. I would say it's somewhat like having an RSB without the drawbacks. I was worried it would be to harsh but im happy with the results. However I still need to reduce the spring rate in the rear to make the rear suspension more compliant.
#69
Got the car on the road last weekend. These bushings feel a little bit better on turns and there isn't much change in the ride quality. I would say it's somewhat like having an RSB without the drawbacks. I was worried it would be to harsh but im happy with the results. However I still need to reduce the spring rate in the rear to make the rear suspension more compliant.
#71
Went back to NJMP the other weekend with the bushings. Car felt like it had less understeer and almost neutral on corners that were giving me definite understeer with the stock bushings. However I had to replace some suspension parts up front and re-did the alignment. I wanted more front grip so camber was changed from -1.4 to -2.1 so that would also account for less understeer.
All in all it provides some improvement and I am glad these things are no longer sitting around unused in my garage.
All in all it provides some improvement and I am glad these things are no longer sitting around unused in my garage.
#72
Went back to NJMP the other weekend with the bushings. Car felt like it had less understeer and almost neutral on corners that were giving me definite understeer with the stock bushings. However I had to replace some suspension parts up front and re-did the alignment. I wanted more front grip so camber was changed from -1.4 to -2.1 so that would also account for less understeer.
All in all it provides some improvement and I am glad these things are no longer sitting around unused in my garage.
All in all it provides some improvement and I am glad these things are no longer sitting around unused in my garage.
#73
Put the bushings in first also check to make sure all rear suspension parts are in good condition. Then remove the RSB cause you can't have an RSB when the beam gets bent. See how the beam bending feels afterwards then you can decide on the RSB. Mine has been out since Nov '06 and I'm not putting it back on.
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#76
its fairly straight forward. do one side at a time. dont take the whole rear beam out of the car, thats alot of extra and way to much wasted time, just jack it up and remove the bolt and take the bottom bolt of the shock. if you do one side at a time you can pull it down low enough to get access of the rubber grommet that needs to be removed. start by getting a hole saw that fits right inside the metal housing. this is easier if you heat the rubber first (set it on fire and let it toast....burn the hell out f it) reason being, the hole saw gets hung up on the rubber and binds up the drill....i almost ruined the drill. when u burn it it makes the rubber brittle.
98seblackmax did something i should have thought of.....60 grit sand paper. the polly bushing will not go in if there is any of the stock bushing left. you have to get at least 98% of it out...test fit it u will see what im talking about it. what i did was get a knife and set the rubber on fire after i got the center/majority out and scrapped it out. if you could get one of these and try this http://www.lowes.com/pd_85721-1069-6...?rpp=60$No=120
#77
I saw this years a couple of years ago but forgot about it until now... kinda glad its up. Last alignement I got at NTB when I did my wheel bearing about 2-3 weeks ago; they gave me the print out and told me the rear was slightly bent and I may notice a tad of pulling but not something to be super noticeable. I looked at the print out and they had it set to a 1994 Maxima instead of 95 and well as some of you know... the 89-94 have independent rear suspension which is adjustable. I'm thinking that may have been the problem why it was registering as bent.
I'm gonna go one more time but make sure they set it to 1995 and not 94, and if its still bent, I may end up pullin a whole i-beam from the JY and I'll probably sand it a bit and paint it with rustoleum black then toss on some nice lil bushings such as these. Thanks for bumpin the thread lol
I'm gonna go one more time but make sure they set it to 1995 and not 94, and if its still bent, I may end up pullin a whole i-beam from the JY and I'll probably sand it a bit and paint it with rustoleum black then toss on some nice lil bushings such as these. Thanks for bumpin the thread lol
#78
Rust on the rear beam is ugly as sin. Sand and prime would do that ish justice. Mines looks like hell.
As old as this thread is somebody has to put up a more detailed review about these things.
As old as this thread is somebody has to put up a more detailed review about these things.
#79
end results after this, my car has alot less under steer. its much more stable in the corners. the caster bushings are very noticeable especially on the highway. around the turns body roll is reduced and the rear feels more "planted". i would def recommend, fairly w easy install and all together it wasnt that expensive if you factor in that they will last you the rest of your cars lifetime....
i have KYB AGXs and Eibachs (AGX are to be replaced within the month because they are blown due to VAs fine roads....damn pot holes! i want rims but i would bust anythin in the 18, 19 rang)
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Plus if it wasnt for me you guys wouldnt even know this was available.
NE winters.... well you know all about them.
As for reviews, there are plenty on other forums. I dont track the car so I cant give you hard data. I dont beat the hell out of the car anymore either. When I bought the bushings in 2006 things were different. I could tell you it 'feels' tighter. I could tell you its a little 'like' having a RSB. I could tell you differences I 'think' I feel. My problem is Ive swapped suspension parts probably more than any one else on the forum. I cant give you a definite comparison before and after. I also did other things at the same time.
If you are into suspensions just do it. Its cheap, its easy. Its better than having a heavy 20 lb RSB that cost 2 to 3 times the price.