What's the biggest difference, and which one do you believe is better over all?

 

About 90-100*f and the CAI is just better period. I have had pretty much every single setup and I like the CAI extension tube with the stock resonator overall.

 

I have the short ram right now, but will put my PR Intake on.

For winter short ram is ok, when it's warm PRFTW!!!

 

I have a short ram, but I want a CAI

 

Yeah when it's cool out, the PR mid-pipe setup owns.. Otherwise, PRCAI FTMFW!!

 

Whats your opnion on the injen racer division i was planning on getting that one

 

I would go with a CAI

 

its the worst designed intake out there.

 

Short ram sucks.

 

yeah it is! i would know...i have it. its sounds good but no performance gain

 

i like my K&N drop in Filter

 

CAI is better in performance because there isnt as much heat, but i like the sound of the air getting sucked in!

 

short ram with the stock resonator box is what i prefer, unless you have a PRCAI, thats the only exception.

 

PR CAI + stock resonator


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tests have been done and concluded that the differnce is negligitable (sp). the cold air intake may have slightly more performance at times, but its not a major differnce if any at all.

there was a website with that information on it, thats what i am refering too, and i havent done the tests myself. a hot air intake ie injen will likly be bad for anyone because of the hot air being taken in - i belive the MAF works better when its colder, but only to a point.

im also not 100% sure but i belive the filters in general just increase hp in the high end - i would assume because its not gasping for air.

dunno for sure tho.

 

custom CAI I made for my 94 VG. I love it

 

That's custom? That's very professional looking, nice job.

 

ty. i had to cut a lot out under neither the headlight bracket for the filter and piping.

 

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How would it 'work better'?

 

had a short ram... then decided 2 try a simple CAI from ebay. much better and threw a K&N on it soudns better AND drives better on high rpm's

 

Had short ram...now I have a CAI...they feel the same to me...but that's just me.

 

do you have to worry about water getting into the cai though? it sounds like a hassle to have to be careful if the weather is wet.

at the very least a stillen hi-flow or a jwt pop charger is better than the stock airbox. right?

 

No, no water gets in the bumper area where I put mine. and i have driven through deep puddles too.

No a pop charger no mater what brand kills low end. since it sucks in the hot air from your engine bay when accelerating from a dead stop. But it does improve the high end. So its a trade off, your choice to make. I say NO

 

don't even worry about water getting in there. I used have a neon and the filter was located a little highter than this one. I drove through plenty of puddles and nothing ever happened.

 

Either way you only gain about 2whp from adding an air intake whether it be a CAI or WAI.

Injen is the worst option though. Thermal Couple Experiment...testing different intake locations for heat.

Personally, I don't mind losing a little bit of low-end grunt and gaining a little high-end. The VQ30de is definitely known to run out of breath at the top but have plenty of torque down low...utilizing a WAI helps to equal that, IMO.

 

if you drive automatic, you need a PR styled CAI.

if you drive a manual, either will do.

No Injen, no exceptions!

i live in the desert and in the summers temps can hit 110 degrees and my hybrid w/ a JWT Pop does awesome as long as you don't mind down shifting. if down shifting is an issue for you, don't go short ram.

 

not to hijack but are the PRCAI's and the Ebay Cold air intakes the same?? the bends look similar. all i need is the piping i already have a k&n filter. thanks guys

 

same style, different quality & materials. there are also injen knock offs out there so make sure to get the PR styled CAI if you get it from ebay.

 

thanks man

 

I have a short ram on an automatic. Not quite as responsive off the line, but now pulls real strong to redline through the gears. "Passing gear", from 50 mph on up, will definitely throw you back in the seat. When the warm weather comes back, I reinstall the factory cold air duct so that the cool air is routed back to the short ram air filter. Works for me.

 

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i don't know about you application in particular, but with an auto tranny the amount of power lost down low supersedes the amount gained up top. with a 5 speed the loss down low is not as critical making a short ram worth your while especially if you have a lighter flywheel or crank pulley to lessen the low end loss effect. i know people hate to hear about the placebo effect, but in my previous car that was an automatic i lowered my quarter mile time by 2 tenths just from going from a short ram back to stock. i couldn't believe it, so i tried it two more times, switching back and forth ea time. the results remained the same. stock wins over short ram in automatics.

 

sri, it sounds way better

 

a "better sounding" engine isn't always a better engine, but hey at least it sound nice!

 

CAI is SO FAWKIN much louder than short ram.. You could never comprehend it, well unless you have had a PRCAI of course. But, just because it's louder doesn't mean anything, IMO it's a bit laggy and doesn't sound the same as the PR mid-pipe setup.. Also, if you want a better top-end I would suggest the mid-pipe setup as well.

In the summer it's a no brainer, the tables turn and the CAI is ALOT better. Once again, IMO.. Also, if you like to gain back some TQ the CAI owns at that, especially if you feel you lost a bunch like I did with the y-pipe.

 

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so i got a cai off of ebay but when i tried to put it on i was like 'wtf.'
like, i have the pipe for all the vacuum lines that comes right off the tb and then it goes to the maf. by then its pointing at the battery. i must not be routing it right.. anybody have any top pics so i can get an idea of what i'm doing??

 

u may need to cut and put it through ur fender. the filter sits infront of the fender guard.

 

I had both short and CAI the CAI is better because u get better and quicker response it keeps the engine cooler and you also get bette top end, just make sure if your car iz slammed u got an air bypass....

 

All of what you just said is complete bullsh1t.. CAI cuts top-end, because the engine has to worker harder and pull the air a longer distance, however it does boost low-end TQ into mids. Quicker response is also bull, they're about the same.. You have hot air lag with anything inside the engine bay and with the CAI you have a type of length lag.