kcryan

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1998 I30 auto, no exhaust mods, the muffler looks like its on its last legs, so i may replace soon. here is what i want


Just slightly louder than stock, BMWish, nothing ridiculous, no fart cans, pretty easy to fit in and good quality (stainless maybe?) and on the highway nearly silent, but when i punch it just a bit more noise (again BMWish, like a stock M3 maybe)



What do you guys think.

Specialeded

Im a fan of Dynomax. Do a serch see what you come up with.

Might not be quite enough for you though.

Apparition

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M3'ish?? Maybe if you have money'ish and go buy a M3'ish car..

Not gonna get that note man.. No matter how hard you try.

JSutter

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With the stock y pipe and cat just about any cat back will fit the bill. If money is no issue go with Cattman, its the best quality for sure. The quietest cat back is the Apexi WS2 and a very nice piece. The Greddy SP2 would be next up, but may drone on the highway. Warpspeed quiet clone is decent, but some have had fittment issues. The Pace setter sounds ok but it will rust out much faster than the others since its not stainless steel. Stillens is loud since there is no resonator. There isnt much else out there thats bolt on and worth buying, but you could always go custom or get a B pipe from Cattman, Budget, Warpspeed, Stillen and pair it with a muffler of your choice.

kcryan

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Thanks guys, I'll do some searching and keep the ideas coming...


Keep the ideas coming


And if i had money for an M3 I'd buy one, I dont, so i wont, I didnt say that i wanted that exact sound, but the 99 ive driven was not too loud, but it still let you know it was there, thats what i want.

Trajiksmax

For Cattman. Listen to exhaust clips, find Ceasars clip sounds sick.

Capital15

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Apex-i WS baby!!

jltibbs

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i'd go with the WS ^^^^^^^ or if you want the super clean look go with the noir from apexi. my personal likes is magnaflow. the street series will hardly add any noise. the race series will add a little more noise. it all also depends on whether or not you keep your resonator. i'm on my fourth muffler, took me a while to get the tone i wanted.

kcryan

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I would only need a rear section from cattman, not a full cat back right?

Bonka

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Right. If you want the B-pipe save the money and get it bent at an exhaust shop.

I've never heard of the Cattman muffler alone so I won't recommend that. I will recommend the WS2 or SP1/SP2. Catback sounds great on it's own without the y-pipe. Hardly, if any drone.

MaximaSE96

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Apexi WS

http://www.directtuning.com/store/p-...ima-97-99.aspx

foxracing12

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I hate to butt in here but I need a similar question answered too.. Aside from that really expensive apexi piece that was linked to, I can't seem to find a bolt on muffler for our cars. Most seem to be weld and make your own hangers, or maybe the images on the websites are just generic? Who makes bolt on mufflers you can buy separate from the rear section?

99BlackMaxMS

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I personally like the Stillen catback exhaust. Its stainless steel and will hold up well, however, it does have a rather throaty sound. Not to loud until you really step on it. Its not quiet by anymeans but its nowhere near a ricer with an 8" blower

kcryan

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Hmmm..now you guys got me thinking....I may just do a complete system while im at it (minus headers) What do you reccomend for that? I like the cattman one but its pricey as hell...they dont offer a org discount do they?

Also I'm still looking for the same idea sound wise, but i do want Stainless...rochester sucks

Cdg2125

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Cattman has some discount stuff on here but its still in the 300's for single pipes. Choice needs to be made if you really want it all at once or if you can deal with it piece by piece.

99BlackMaxMS

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If you are going to do a full exhaust minus headers (which wont make a big difference anyways) its not going to be cheap. The y-pipe is a good power upgrade, but will cost about $350 for just the pipe. The Cattman catback isn't cheap either and will cost about $600 shipped. Thats almost $1000 before labor (unless you do exhaust work). I would also recommend a CAI because the exhaust system (mainly y-pipe) mated with a good CAI will give about 20 extra hp to the wheels.

Heres what I think:

If you're going for performance, do the full exhaust from the y-pipe to the muffler with a CAI if you can afford it. It will help produce about 25 extra hp at the wheels.

If you are looking for a basic exhaust replacement, a catback exhaust will do you fine. The y-pipe will not increase/decrease the noise level from stock, however the catback will. Therefore, if you are tight on $$ go with a high-flow cat and the catback which should solve your exhaust issue only costing about $600.

kcryan

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Ohh, i forgot to mention, i do have a CAI, I will be doing all the work myself, and i dont really mind spending a fair amount (the 1100 cattman wants seems high but i guess i could deal with it if need be) so long as im getting a good product

99BlackMaxMS

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The Cattman is good quality and will add about 25 hp. Go for it. Good sound w/ added power. Especially if you do all the work yourself.

JSutter

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Cattman, Stillen, Warpspeed, thats it for bolt ons. There was one on ebay a few years ago that was bolt on AKA axle back. It may be from Top Speed, not sure.

samito

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i had a b pipe installed with an 02 max muffler-on start up sounds great--when i floor it sounds real good & quit while i do highway

LiGhtSoUt

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i hope ur joking no catback is gonna give you 25 hp not even a full exahust system from the headers back please dont tell me your one of those ebay readers that beleive injen gives 12 hp

toddemullins

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I'm pretty sure 99BlackMaxMS is talking about the full exhaust with Y for the 25 HP. The sound I like the best is the Cattman Y ($350), Budget B with resonator ($200), and the 2k muffler section ($230). The muffler is made by Calsonic and can be purchased from DaveB at Southpoint Nissan. The flanged section on the 2k muffler will not bolt up to the 4th gen B pipe, so some mild exhaust work needs to be done to mate them. Very easy for the exhaust shop to do. $780 for the whole thing minus cat.

Max_Out

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I have a ram air intake, warpspeed y and megan cat back. It sounds good but i didnt expect the tone to be so deep when at WOT around 5.5 grand. The engines sounds like its screaming, but the exhaust note sounds deep and growly. Is this normal?

SDB318

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on that one link for the apexi ws2...is there a discount code or anything???

MaximaSE96

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no...their listed price is 480

SDB318

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that price is for the 97-99 right cause i thin kthe 95-96 is like 424

ewuzh

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Get a Cattman B-pipe and a Dynomax Super Turbo muffler. Keep your stock Y-pipe. The Y-pipe frees up the most power, but it also adds more noise that you probably wouldn't like.

99BlackMaxMS

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If he does a y-pipe and catback with a CAI he will add at most 25 hp. The CAI will give about 3-5 HP at most. Read above as he said he wanted to do a full exhaust from the headers back (20ish hp) + CAI (3-5 hp). Im pretty sure i know what Im talking about.

Thanks for clearing up toddemullins.

phenryiv1

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I am not reading this whole thread to see if I am duplicating things, but my I30 had a WSP Y and B pipe going to a stock muffler and it was a HUGE improvement with only the absolute slightest increase in volume. When I went to an aftermarket muffler (something cheap), it sounded like crap.

I would look into a quality muffler, if you go aftermarket, but if you are doing ANY exhaust mods at all, the Y-pipe will give you better performance with minimal sound changes.

When I say that the sound increse is slight, I REALLY mean slight. I HATE the sound of aftermarket exhaust on 99% of vehicles, and the Y/B sound increase was not perceivable at any throttle level.

phenryiv1

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I REALLY disagree. I had everything from bone-stock to WSP Y/B/aftermarket muffler, and with an OEM-style muffler, adding the Y AND B together was MAYBE a 1-2 dB difference AT MOST.

ewuzh

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I also had Y AND B and stock muffler, and it was basically not much louder than stock. The stock muffler pretty much knocks out almost all exhaust noise. Have you tried Y/B and aftermarket muffler vs. B and aftermarket muffler? That's where the difference is.

phenryiv1

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No, I never did the B w/o Y on stock muffler OR aftermarket muffler. Y/B went on at the same time. Whe coupled with aftermarket, the noise went up and it (the aftermarket muffler) was quickly pulled.

Since you get the MOST gains from the aftermarket B, and since he NEEDS a new muffler, this is a tough call for him. He rolls the dice if he gets a "quiet" aftermarket muffler w/ an aftermarket Y (regardless of the B), and if it is too loud, he STILL has to go buy a new OEM-style muffler OR he has to remove the Y.

For me, it would be a no-brainer- AM Y w/ OEM muffler.