Diff between Strut Bars
#1
Diff between Strut Bars
wassup everyone... i jus wanted everyonez opinion on this matter... obviously stillen, redlinemax, etc. sell front strut barz for $120 and up. Ebay on the other hand... has those aluminum strut bars for about 20-30 buckz. how much of a difference is there between the materials?... strength of the barz?... any main overall difference? jus curious to see what everyone else thinks. aight
-also.. what kind of strut bars is everyone using?
-also.. what kind of strut bars is everyone using?
#2
i'm glad we get a thread like this every week. a strut bar is a strut bar. the ebay ones are fine. for the more expensive ones, you are paying for the look and the name mainly. for as hard as the majority of maximas are driven, you are not needing anything more than an ebay bar can give you.
#8
Originally Posted by Mxrider52
There is a diff between some of them. The ones that are non adjustable provide more chassis stiffening then the ones that are adjustable.
........and some of them sit right on top of you EVAP, which is a like teh e-bay bars!
#9
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Originally Posted by Geo T
........and some of them sit right on top of you EVAP, which is a like teh e-bay bars!
I didnt have any problems with the fitment of my bar that i got off ebay... Weird.
#11
Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
No real difference in all of them unless you're lowered.
The purpose of a strut bar is to stiffen the region of the chassis where the strut bolts in. On some cars, the front strut is midway between the firewall and front crossmember, so that the forces in the strut actually cause some deflection (flex) in the chassis. The reason it affects handling is because the strut controls camber, and camber change due to front chassis flex causes it to be less predictable. Some people say it does help on Maximas.
I've owned one, and I don't think it does a damn thing. I've driven with and without it, and I truly believe people are too convinced that they like having the bar to be truly objective about whether it works. If you really want one, I would say that the aluminum bars are the inferior option, since aluminum is less stiff than steel and generally lower strength too.
Dave
#14
Originally Posted by Max_Out
ok so what is does it do? please educate me.
#15
Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
No real difference in all of them unless you're lowered.
so what kind of difference does a drop make on having a strut bar? or specific kind of strut bar....
(gettin a good response from this thread!... lets keep it going!)
anyone here got a 95 max?... cauz im thinkin bout getting a strut bar... (anyone selling???.. lolz)...
#16
Originally Posted by Max_Out
ok so what is does it do? please educate me.
Although one thing about that which I still don't get is that more negative camber usually helps in cornering, and the strut bar prevents that.
But someone would still have to convince me that the 1/32" of flex in the chassis makes any difference the handling.
Dave
#17
Originally Posted by Infamous95
ok... im dropped on paradox coiloverz... pretty low... going lower this weekend.
so what kind of difference does a drop make on having a strut bar? or specific kind of strut bar....
(gettin a good response from this thread!... lets keep it going!)
anyone here got a 95 max?... cauz im thinkin bout getting a strut bar... (anyone selling???.. lolz)...
so what kind of difference does a drop make on having a strut bar? or specific kind of strut bar....
(gettin a good response from this thread!... lets keep it going!)
anyone here got a 95 max?... cauz im thinkin bout getting a strut bar... (anyone selling???.. lolz)...
#18
Originally Posted by phenryiv1
Without the bar, you get more chassis flex ...
...than is desired.
I would love to hear from someone who autocrosses their Maxima and who has done side-by-side lap *time* comparisons with and without it. I doubt you'll hear that though; this forum is more populated with bolt-on'ers than racers.
Dave
#19
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
I don't think our front end flexes enough to hurt the handling. It might change the feel of the car a little bit, but that doesn't mean the handling is better. I think the compliance of the bushings and tires and other stuff greatly overshadow any effects of the strut bar.
I would love to hear from someone who autocrosses their Maxima and who has done side-by-side lap *time* comparisons with and without it. I doubt you'll hear that though; this forum is more populated with bolt-on'ers than racers.
Dave
I would love to hear from someone who autocrosses their Maxima and who has done side-by-side lap *time* comparisons with and without it. I doubt you'll hear that though; this forum is more populated with bolt-on'ers than racers.
Dave
#20
Strut Tower Brace is it worth it?
Ive always thought strut tower braces were for show and they didn't really do much. I have tokico struts and ebach lowering springs along with a rear sway bar, would a strut tower brace really help with handling?
#25
for $20, does it really matter? get it, see if you like how it changes things. if not, take it off and get over the pocket change that you spent on it. some say yes, it helps while others say no. read the hundreds of threads on this and then in the end it will be up to you anyway.
#29
rear ones are hard to come across but i think stillen and maybe paradox made one? also, a custom one piecing together a FSTB and a RSTB from a Sentra to fit in the rear of a Max.
more info here: http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php?MaximaRstb
more info here: http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php?MaximaRstb
#30
Originally Posted by Jesse729
Ive always thought strut tower braces were for show and they didn't really do much. I have tokico struts and ebach lowering springs along with a rear sway bar, would a strut tower brace really help with handling?
Hey Jesse, how does your suspension ride? I'm going with the same set up and you Blues with Eibachs and I'm waiting on the blues now. How is the ride?
#33
Originally Posted by JeremiahMaximaSE
DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE!!!!
-Jeremiah "J$"
1995 Nissan Maxima SE
-Jeremiah "J$"
1995 Nissan Maxima SE
i know it is now that i see the logo on the read door.
#35
Yes, I was sponsored by CE at one time. Actually the text on the rear door reads "MAXIMA SE" in italic lettering. My first "mod" to my car if you can call it that. i was considering taking off the lettering, but I've had it on there for over a decade now...I would suspect that the paint would be faded around it! In the effort not to stray from the topic of this forum, the sway bar is HIGHLY recommended. It has saved my life a few times in tight turns
-Jeremiah "J$"
1995 Nissan Maxima SE
-Jeremiah "J$"
1995 Nissan Maxima SE
#36
i am also glad to see a new strut bar thread weekly.
yea if you dont spend $200 your bar will suck! haha. u dont always get what you pay for when it comes to cars. more money doesnt mean better quality
yea if you dont spend $200 your bar will suck! haha. u dont always get what you pay for when it comes to cars. more money doesnt mean better quality
#38
What about the lower tie bar, e.g. Blehmco? They're supposed to tie together the underside of the front suspension, right? I put a Stage 1 on my car, but I did it at the same time that I installed my RSB, so I don't know if it made a huge difference or not. IMO my Ebay FSTB made a noticeable difference, and the RSB made a huge difference.
#39
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
I would love to hear from someone who autocrosses their Maxima and who has done side-by-side lap *time* comparisons with and without it. I doubt you'll hear that though; this forum is more populated with bolt-on'ers than racers.
Dave
Dave
As far as street use-not sure. The Maxima seemed more stable at highway speed, say if I was behind a semi, with less steering correction needed.
#40
strut bar
From my understanding of the strut bar keeps the body flex at a minimum because we have uni-body frames . This makes the performance of the suspension react better and faster. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!