this guys knows what hes talkin about!

 

What model years was the 3rd/4th gen Camry?

 

3rd gen camry is 92-96. I think only 92-94 camry's have the 5spd option because then went with another 3.0L engine come either 94 or 95.

 

Poor example. His car weighs 27xx lbs WITH HIM IN IT. How fast his car is has more to do with the weight reduction than anything else.

 

Ya, and the same probably goes for fanaticrockford's auto time...I think he had serious weight reduction, so the point is moot: pound for pound, the 5-speed will be significantly faster.

 

My town is famous for being the town that's fastests cars are The honda civic. AND some kind of saturn. All of which have a massive muffler, And they all belive they can beat you. A kid in a civic once asked if he wanted to race. After I said, uhm. sure, he responded with. actually I can't race you. My cars WAY to light i'll slide. I said, okay...? How much, "Bout 900" I say WHAT?! 900 pounds? I look in his car and all he has removed are his seats. Uhmm.... His seats must be like some form of Brick and Metal

 

i agreee this is all u need on a automatic max

 

ya i got a auto 97 GXE. so far just an intake. Already got the y-pipe but aint put it on yet. but other than that all you really need is a hi flow cat converter and a good exhaust and maybe supercharge if you got that extra money.

 

All the 4 second dragsters are automatic.

 

i like auto alot and i will do as much mods possibles, whether it's tv's, audio, looks, and especially performance, i was thinking of getting a manual maxima but i really dont see why i need it, i dont race that much, i do 75% more regular driving, i was just gonna do the 3.5 swap auto, and tell all you modded Manuals to holla at me on any track

 

i value your opinion but it sounds a lil ignorant, you telling me if i have an auto with, lets just say,
( cold air intake, y-pipe, hi flow cat, exhaust, 00VI, ecu upgrade, crank pulley, and maybe a supercharger i cant tell a difference and run low 14's maybe high 13's

 

Obviously people will always argue if its stupid to put performance into an auto. Truth is that I don't see why not. If it's your car and you want to make it faster so be it. I'm still waiting to see dyno's of people with exactly the same mods to the car (1 auto, 1 5spd), and see the difference. I know holding control over the tranny is great but some people just don't care. I feel like most posts about this subject are somewhat ignorant because people don't care about opninions. Opinions are opinions and people will not agree. I still don't understand why it needs to turn into insulting people (in this case) for wanting to mod an auto. I think the idea of adding performance to the car to make it a little faster on the street is fine but if you have a car you want to track more often and still use it as DD, manual is the way to go IMO. I don't track at all so modding my auto is strictly to make it faster for me. I don't care if it can beat anyone elses car. I just don't want to throw down a couple g's to make it fast when the auto can only do so much. That's why 3.5 swap would really be out of the question for me (grand_hustle17, remember that 3.5 on the 4spd auto is not advised).

So after rambling for so long I still think that this is one of those issues that will never be resovled and it truely depends on what you want to do with the car. Yes manuals are more fun to drive cause you can play with it, but I still enjoy driving my auto every day. Sometimes after driving friends manuals, I like to go back to the auto. It's all personal taste and I don't think that people should be attacked for that.

 

I think it worked out OK for me......

My auto shifts faster and harder - and more consistently - than any manual tranny, IMHO.... And really low 13s in the quarter show it.

 

im gonna agree with your post reason being is that alot of us org members kinda discriminate in the sence of auto and maunal, both cars will be faster than before, and yeah the manual may have the edge based on the driver but that doesnt means it's dumb to mod an auto, still maxima's........... probebly one of the better post today even though you got me puzzled a bit on the 3.5, because i would love to know why, but great post

 

i put a lot of stickers on my auto and it was worth it

 

you the man dude, and im on your wagon , now lets see all the auto haters talk to that auto or manual, it really doesnt matter, i you feel like modding then so be it.

 

Yeah -- me too !!

 

Damn low 13's? Thats nice, but you run nitros though don't you? It's pretty hard to get an automatic to run low 13's thats N/A. Cash is defenatly required..

 

If you want to know if its worth it to mod an auto, then look at the maxima of the month.

 

How does maxima of the month incorparate into this? You don't have to have the fastest car to be MOTM, just a clean one. thats nicely built, that people vote on..

 

read the first post.

 

I meant that the 3.5 has too much power to use on the 4spd auto. Some say with a VB mod and tranny cooler you can pull off using it but it's most likely going to fry the tranny since it's not built for that kind of power. I tried to get some info on doing the 5spd auto swapped into the 4th gen with the 3.5 but nobody got back to me and I'm sure the ecu would be a problem. Anyways....more info in the AM forum if you need it.

 

Jime is in the 12s on his 3.5L 4th gen automatic.....

And, fast = $$ -- -always. Go cheap, go slow.

 

Yeah.. but I think if I had the money to put in the 3.5 I would probably just put in a 5 speed while I was at it. :-\. Besides I just spent alot of money on a LOW LOW mileage 3.0L. so until i blow the engine somehow in this one. I doubt I'd buy a 3.5, Although It'd probably be a good idea NOW that they have semi-low mileage. and arn't THAT old, .. yet. So if anyone wants to buy a 9k mile 3.0L engine and tranny, More than welcome to. And yes I have the papers to prove all of it.

 

You gotta be kidding - look in "timeslips" somewhere at the top for Jime - 4th gen 3.5L automatic. I'm 11th, I think...

As I recall, the 5th gen auto IS the 4th gen auto - now the 6th gen auto has possibliities, but no VLSD FTL... why bother?

The 4th gen auto is tough. Mine has survived two seasons on the strip, and still squeals the M&H slicks going into third gear.

 

I went back and checked the 3.5 thread and you are correct. It says the debate goes on wether the 4spd is strong enough but if it's in good condition it should be ok. So I guess with a fairly new tranny with VB mod and tranny cooler should be ok. Sorry. I guess I read that wrong the first time. Thought it said it wasnt recomended.

grey yours is a DD right?

 

Usually - it's been sitting since the blizzards began - my air intake is below the car, so I don't want to suck snow and salt into the Ingen...

I drive my tow truck instead.

 

i have a 5spd and i love it and my grandma has a auto i see that my manual is way faster then the auto but i still think that the auto is not a bad car to put mods on i mean the good thing about having a auto is that they wil not have the clutch problems and the cold start ****ing probs that i have now my car stays in the shop fixing sumthing with that manual but that is prob cuz my car sat in a lot for 10 months but that is just my opinion

 

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so can we now agree that it's ok to Mod an auto???... most people says it's too much money, and i strongly disagree, because if you want to run low 13's with a manual you'll probebly spend roughly 3 grand in the long run or more unless you use nitrous.

 

swap in a 5sp, im sure youll love it

 

you'll love it the same as you love the swap in an auto... same car... i love modded out maxima 4sp or 5sp

 

I disagree that it's way faster. Auto's have cold start issues as well.

Grand_Hustle, I've always been ok with modding auto's. It's your car and you can still make it pretty damn fast as an auto.

 

oh ok. what i really dont like with this thread is that the fellas with the 5sp are discriminating and making the 5sp owners think that 5sp are so superior and they can run seconds quicker stock... For everybody with an auto who is starting to second guess thier cars. dont listen to any of this negativity from Manual owners, i've beaten a 2001 manual and my man 24K can verify that he also beat him and he has an auto.

 

yeah you do...


your side skirts are on backwards.

 

i thought both skirts are the same??? with that lil bump at both end

 

ROFL!! Obviously it can be put on two different ways :-\


Phear Originality

 

Haha well besides the side skirt problem, most people don't know how to get the car to 140 since most have a speed limiter and its very hard to get to 140 just straight off so I highly doubt you can get to 140 with ease.

 

the larger "bump" should be at the rear. but the car does look good.

 

Can this thread end already.

Is it worth modding an auto to make it faster for personal driving? Yes.

Is it worth modding an auto to get the fastest 1/4 mile time if you shift correctly? No.

If you prefer an auto for personal reasons then it's worth modding.

If you DON'T prefer and auto for personal reasons then it's NOT worth modding.

It's not that complicated.