Sometimes Shifter gets stuck?
03-20-2007, 01:53 PM
#1
Sometimes Shifter gets stuck?
only occurs at complete stop, normal driving is fine
5 speed...sometimes when i try to shift into reverse, it doesnt go in, so i have to let off of the clutch, and then try again and it'll work. like its "blocked" the first time, sometimes this happens in first gear too, like i said all it takes to get it into gear is for me to let off the clutch and try again
wut is this and will it progress into something much worse?
5 speed...sometimes when i try to shift into reverse, it doesnt go in, so i have to let off of the clutch, and then try again and it'll work. like its "blocked" the first time, sometimes this happens in first gear too, like i said all it takes to get it into gear is for me to let off the clutch and try again
wut is this and will it progress into something much worse?
03-20-2007, 04:32 PM
#2
It's an indication of wear or slight damage in the tranny shifting components. It's normal for a higher mileage car, although a couple of bad shifts can cause this kind of damage instantly.
As long as you don't grind your shifts, and don't force it into gear, it will go on like this for a very long time. If you want snappy bimmer like shifting, you'll have to spend a lot of money to improve it.
I should not fail to mention though that replacing the shifter bushing (under the shifter lever, above the catalytic converter) can substantially help smooth shifts. So will changing to a GL-4 75w-90 synthetic gear oil like Redline MT-90 or Amsoil MTG.
Dave
As long as you don't grind your shifts, and don't force it into gear, it will go on like this for a very long time. If you want snappy bimmer like shifting, you'll have to spend a lot of money to improve it.
I should not fail to mention though that replacing the shifter bushing (under the shifter lever, above the catalytic converter) can substantially help smooth shifts. So will changing to a GL-4 75w-90 synthetic gear oil like Redline MT-90 or Amsoil MTG.
Dave
03-20-2007, 05:42 PM
#5
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
It's an indication of wear or slight damage in the tranny shifting components. It's normal for a higher mileage car, although a couple of bad shifts can cause this kind of damage instantly.
As long as you don't grind your shifts, and don't force it into gear, it will go on like this for a very long time. If you want snappy bimmer like shifting, you'll have to spend a lot of money to improve it.
I should not fail to mention though that replacing the shifter bushing (under the shifter lever, above the catalytic converter) can substantially help smooth shifts. So will changing to a GL-4 75w-90 synthetic gear oil like Redline MT-90 or Amsoil MTG.
Dave
As long as you don't grind your shifts, and don't force it into gear, it will go on like this for a very long time. If you want snappy bimmer like shifting, you'll have to spend a lot of money to improve it.
I should not fail to mention though that replacing the shifter bushing (under the shifter lever, above the catalytic converter) can substantially help smooth shifts. So will changing to a GL-4 75w-90 synthetic gear oil like Redline MT-90 or Amsoil MTG.
Dave
How would I go about changing my gear oil?
03-20-2007, 05:49 PM
#6
Originally Posted by MaximaSpd85
only occurs at complete stop, normal driving is fine
5 speed...sometimes when i try to shift into reverse, it doesnt go in, so i have to let off of the clutch, and then try again and it'll work. like its "blocked" the first time, sometimes this happens in first gear too, like i said all it takes to get it into gear is for me to let off the clutch and try again
wut is this and will it progress into something much worse?
5 speed...sometimes when i try to shift into reverse, it doesnt go in, so i have to let off of the clutch, and then try again and it'll work. like its "blocked" the first time, sometimes this happens in first gear too, like i said all it takes to get it into gear is for me to let off the clutch and try again
wut is this and will it progress into something much worse?
03-20-2007, 06:11 PM
#8
I think reverse does not have a synchro. I've been in other cars where every once in a while it won't go into reverse. I am not an expert but I always just assumed it was a common thing. It is still anoying though. My transmission does it... courtesy of the clear lake nissan stealership giving me my car back with half the transmission fluid missing and me driving around for 300 miles not knowing.
03-21-2007, 05:35 AM
#11
I have that same problem in reverse....my dad started having that same problem shortly after he bought his 1995 Maxima NEW! For me, I've found that if it does not want to go into reverse, I just put it into first, roll the car a tiny bit forward, and then bam, goes into reverse every time. I sometimes have issue with first as well, but not nearly as often as reverse. I can't wait to get my Amsoil gear oil and Larrio bushing, I'm tired of this ****ty tranny!
03-21-2007, 02:46 PM
#13
The thing with reverse gear is normal.
Reverse does have a synchro, however it also involves sliding a gear into mesh. So on a slow roll you shouldn't have the shifting problem, but occasionally when you're not moving you will because the gear teeth line up exactly. This is perfectly normal for this and many other manual trannys. If it doesn't like going into Reverse, just put it in neutral, clutch out, clutch in, and try again. 98% of the time that gets the gear teeth to misalign and slip smoothly into mesh.
Dave
Reverse does have a synchro, however it also involves sliding a gear into mesh. So on a slow roll you shouldn't have the shifting problem, but occasionally when you're not moving you will because the gear teeth line up exactly. This is perfectly normal for this and many other manual trannys. If it doesn't like going into Reverse, just put it in neutral, clutch out, clutch in, and try again. 98% of the time that gets the gear teeth to misalign and slip smoothly into mesh.
Dave
03-21-2007, 03:40 PM
#14
Originally Posted by MaximaSpd85
only occurs at complete stop, normal driving is fine
5 speed...sometimes when i try to shift into reverse, it doesnt go in, so i have to let off of the clutch, and then try again and it'll work. like its "blocked" the first time, sometimes this happens in first gear too, like i said all it takes to get it into gear is for me to let off the clutch and try again
wut is this and will it progress into something much worse?
5 speed...sometimes when i try to shift into reverse, it doesnt go in, so i have to let off of the clutch, and then try again and it'll work. like its "blocked" the first time, sometimes this happens in first gear too, like i said all it takes to get it into gear is for me to let off the clutch and try again
wut is this and will it progress into something much worse?
Ok, my tranny is just fine internally and I sometimes have his sympthoms. Definatly getting ES motor mounts and reinforcing the shifter bushing help in this, and there is less play in the drive train. But anyways, theres times I cant get into 1st right away. Just go into 2nd then up to 1st. Goes in no problem. Also, for R, just put it into 1st then into R, should go in no problem. I suggest you get some Amsoil MTG to keep that tranny happy. Best thing you could do for it for sure
03-21-2007, 05:42 PM
#15
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
I should not fail to mention though that replacing the shifter bushing (under the shifter lever, above the catalytic converter) can substantially help smooth shifts. So will changing to a GL-4 75w-90 synthetic gear oil like Redline MT-90 or Amsoil MTG.
Dave
06-17-2007, 06:18 PM
#16
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My '92 SE was stuck in reverse. Could not get it out. I just pulled the gearbox and the clutch is shot, but the inside of the tranny looks fine. No broke forks, bad gear teeth, bad bearings. I am stumped. The shifter components are fine too. Anybody familiar with the workings of the reverse lever in the tranny? It seems to lock itself in reverse and I do not see how to get it "unactuated"
Thanks.
P.S. I was going to post this problem, but I have to do 15 forum replies before I can post!
Thanks.
P.S. I was going to post this problem, but I have to do 15 forum replies before I can post!
06-17-2007, 07:52 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by jaimzb60
My '92 SE was stuck in reverse. Could not get it out. I just pulled the gearbox and the clutch is shot, but the inside of the tranny looks fine. No broke forks, bad gear teeth, bad bearings. I am stumped. The shifter components are fine too. Anybody familiar with the workings of the reverse lever in the tranny? It seems to lock itself in reverse and I do not see how to get it "unactuated"
Thanks.
P.S. I was going to post this problem, but I have to do 15 forum replies before I can post!
Thanks.
P.S. I was going to post this problem, but I have to do 15 forum replies before I can post!
06-18-2007, 03:04 AM
#18
My 98' does it too ... I think it's more common that just in the Max too. I had an RX-7 with pretty much the same problem too at one time. For me ... I know my input shaft berring is goin out, so ... I hope the problem may go away after a rebuild. I plan to use Redline when I do rebuild, but I don't guess it hurts it for now since I am gonna tear it down soon anyway.
AFAICR, R' is a floating gear in this trans. Not in all tranys, but IMO it makes it easier to work on (one less retainer to mess with).
It's no big deal really, just don't force it as mentioned and you should be fine. I often do one of the following: 1) let the car roll a bit, this spins the diff, somehow freeing up the "lockout", 2) hit 1st, then R' and it goes almost every time - no problem, or 3) double clutch like you do now.
Just remember - DON'T grind em if ya can't find em! lol
AFAICR, R' is a floating gear in this trans. Not in all tranys, but IMO it makes it easier to work on (one less retainer to mess with).
It's no big deal really, just don't force it as mentioned and you should be fine. I often do one of the following: 1) let the car roll a bit, this spins the diff, somehow freeing up the "lockout", 2) hit 1st, then R' and it goes almost every time - no problem, or 3) double clutch like you do now.
Just remember - DON'T grind em if ya can't find em! lol
06-18-2007, 06:24 AM
#19
had the same issue but gettin it into first. Now its not really doing it anymore kinda went away. But im gonna bleed the clutch lines and see if that works and maybe check out the motor mounts.
06-18-2007, 08:17 PM
#21
man didnt know these many people had problems with it. Just got home tonight was a ***** to drive with all that traffic...... My cuz is gonna help me bleed the clutch lines.... I alos got some poly motor mounts to swap out tommorow will keep updated
06-19-2007, 02:59 PM
#22
I have trouble getting it into reverse and 1st gear sometimes...and yeah it doesnt bother me. What has been getting to me is 3rd gear...during normal driving I need to slam it into 3rd at times to get it into gear. Kinda sucks but the car has 111K on the original clutch/tranny as far as I know.
06-21-2007, 05:05 PM
#24
didnt get a chance to bleed my lines yet busy with work... But after I bleed it is it better to use the syntheic gear oil from GL-4 75w-90 or amsoil.. I dont know if amsoil is synthetic or not.. Also dont know what the pervious owner put in... So whats best to use?
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