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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 11:26 AM
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How many of you have the y-pipe installed along with the SC? I wanted to know because I once was told by some Stillen Rep that you can't run a y-pipe along with the SC because it'll produce too much HP and blow up the tranny. However, if you get the VB Mod, it shouldn't be a problem right? Please comment.
Old Jul 11, 2001 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by SillePimp
However, if you get the VB Mod, it shouldn't be a problem right?

i was under the impression that the vb mod would handle the y and sc...


you should be fine.
Old Jul 11, 2001 | 03:41 PM
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I had the Y before the SC. Im even runnin smaller pulley. But only time will tell. Its really hard to say exactly what it is that kills the tranny, other than "heat" ..

There are quite a few auto SC's .. im not sure whos had their tranny blow up.. BL97's runnin a smaller pulley also, his is still ok, i think.

Skimax who told me to "race anyone with blue lights" blew his tranny .. but you have to consider how you drive it too. Good thing steve doesnt check here often lately.
Old Jul 11, 2001 | 03:59 PM
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The VB wil extend the life of your tranny, it does nothing to beef up the internals of the tranny/torque converter. Your transmission MUST be in good condition to handle the SC. Only something like a Level 10 rebuild will strengthen your tranny.
Old Jul 11, 2001 | 07:34 PM
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The VB wil extend the life of your tranny, it does nothing to beef up the internals of the tranny/torque converter. Your transmission MUST be in good condition to handle the SC. Only something like a Level 10 rebuild will strengthen your tranny.

I Thought Don's VB Mod and the Level 10 Transmission were the exact same thing ? I thought they would both strengthen and quicken your tranny ?
Old Jul 11, 2001 | 08:13 PM
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Don's VB mod has a Level Ten equivalent, called the HydroSystem. It causes the valve body's solenoids to always be at full pressure, causing 'crisper' shifts. A Level Ten tranny replaces the entire tranny and the VB upgrade is a part of it. From Level Ten's website, this is what they say about the Level Ten tranny, These “bulletproof” units are completely rebuilt and incorporate Level 10 Performance Transmission System™, Level 10 Hydrosystem™, and Level 10 Super Pump technologies. All bushings and washers are replaced with the finest quality and latest technology replacements. All anti–friction bearings are replaced with Torrington® bearings. These transmissions are “built–to–order” using PTS™ Blue Plate Special® Clutches and Kolene Reaction Plates. For the VB upgrade, it states, Available for many Japanese transmissions. Due to the complex nature of these valve Bodies, the Hydrosystem™ Valve Body Recalibration is not a “do-it-yourself” operation. This upgrade will optimize the shift points, improve the shift feel, and improve the pressure rise, Your transmission will run cooler and last longer. Ship your valve body to our plant — we will incorporate the upgrades immediately and return it ready–to–install.. For more info, please go to www.levelten.com
Old Jul 11, 2001 | 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Don's VB mod has a Level Ten equivalent, called the HydroSystem. It causes the valve body's solenoids to always be at full pressure, causing 'crisper' shifts. A Level Ten tranny replaces the entire tranny and the VB upgrade is a part of it. From Level Ten's website, this is what they say about the Level Ten tranny, These “bulletproof” units are completely rebuilt and incorporate Level 10 Performance Transmission System™, Level 10 Hydrosystem™, and Level 10 Super Pump technologies. All bushings and washers are replaced with the finest quality and latest technology replacements. All anti–friction bearings are replaced with Torrington® bearings. These transmissions are “built–to–order” using PTS™ Blue Plate Special® Clutches and Kolene Reaction Plates. For the VB upgrade, it states, Available for many Japanese transmissions. Due to the complex nature of these valve Bodies, the Hydrosystem™ Valve Body Recalibration is not a “do-it-yourself” operation. This upgrade will optimize the shift points, improve the shift feel, and improve the pressure rise, Your transmission will run cooler and last longer. Ship your valve body to our plant — we will incorporate the upgrades immediately and return it ready–to–install.. For more info, please go to www.levelten.com

Thanks bro. The level 10 Costs quite a bit more than don's VB upgrade...I now know why. I will take a look.

thanks again

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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Don's VB mod has a Level Ten equivalent, called the HydroSystem. It causes the valve body's solenoids to always be at full pressure, causing 'crisper' shifts. A Level Ten tranny replaces the entire tranny and the VB upgrade is a part of it. From Level Ten's website, this is what they say about the Level Ten tranny, These “bulletproof” units are completely rebuilt and incorporate Level 10 Performance Transmission System™, Level 10 Hydrosystem™, and Level 10 Super Pump technologies. All bushings and washers are replaced with the finest quality and latest technology replacements. All anti–friction bearings are replaced with Torrington® bearings. These transmissions are “built–to–order” using PTS™ Blue Plate Special® Clutches and Kolene Reaction Plates. For the VB upgrade, it states, Available for many Japanese transmissions. Due to the complex nature of these valve Bodies, the Hydrosystem™ Valve Body Recalibration is not a “do-it-yourself” operation. This upgrade will optimize the shift points, improve the shift feel, and improve the pressure rise, Your transmission will run cooler and last longer. Ship your valve body to our plant — we will incorporate the upgrades immediately and return it ready–to–install.. For more info, please go to www.levelten.com
This is off the L10 website, right? Raybestos doesn't make Blue Plates (or even Red Plates) for this application. They do make Greens, but those are OEM replacements. Call Chris in the R&D dept at Raybestos, he will tell you the same thing. For the most part, you get a rebuild with a VB upgrade. I've researched this for a LONG time (this is how I got started on doing my own tranny)....I couldn't find stronger materials for this tranny (unless I bought 300,000 pieces at a time).

If you'll ask L10, they will only do a rebuild with a VB upgrade. The VB is the KEY. If your tranny has good OEM clutches, the VB is all you would ever need (in most cases).

We have people running almost 300HP at the wheels for over a year without a failure. Also, your tranny runs about 15 degrees warmer with the upgrade (L10's or ours)...the tranny cooler reduces temps about 50-75 degrees.
Old Jul 11, 2001 | 10:09 PM
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Don, So your telling me that you do basically the same thing as the Level 10 Upgrade ? If so, very good becuase your prices are much lower than the Level 10. That's what makes me wonder.

Thanks.
Old Jul 11, 2001 | 10:30 PM
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Stillen doesn't recommend to use the y-pipe with the SC.
How about with nos? will plan have the same problem with to much power at the tranny? Right now I'm only using a 50 shot, but plan on going up to 100. I hope that dons VB upgrade is good enough to handle the extra power!
Old Jul 12, 2001 | 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by SMakin'Max
Stillen doesn't recommend to use the y-pipe with the SC.
How about with nos? will plan have the same problem with to much power at the tranny? Right now I'm only using a 50 shot, but plan on going up to 100. I hope that dons VB upgrade is good enough to handle the extra power!
They dont recommend SC for autos, PERIOD. That doesnt stop anyone..
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