I purchased this clutchnet disc and pressure plate from Blu here on the org back in february. I didnt know much about clutches but he assured me that it had plenty of life left on it. I was busy with my 3.5 swap and didnt take a good look at the clutch after recieving it. I am now doing my 5 speed swap and I took a good look at the clutch disc and noticed spots where it is worn down to the rivets. Its worn ON THE RIVETS. The padding is almost even with the rivets on 90 percent of the disc. I cant imagine this is normal...but decided to ask people who knew before I try to get my refund. I'm getting very irritated because I thought i was getting a good deal on a good clutch that would last me awhile and now its looking like i'm going to have to purchase a completely new clutch and pressure plate.
cant seem to get ahold of blu...

 

i have just been told the clutch is in fact toast. in which case i have been ripped off by Blu

 

here's a link to the thread. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=510216

 

holy f**k*n sh*t, yeah that's done. Translation = Wicked worn

 

i just dont understand why he would think that i would want to buy that? He couldnt have, since I expressed that I wanted something with plenty of life on it. Maybe i should start selling my old brake pads, and used oil.

 

if you had someone that paid you money for your used brake pads and oil wouldnt you sell them?

 

Yes, because i advertised them in that manner. This was not advertised to me as a clutch that was COMPLETELY USELESS. I was told it had more than 60 percent life left in it.
If you asked me "would i sell used oil to someoen who was told it wasnt used oil" i would tell you HELL NO. Because i do honest business and couldnt live with knowing that someone entrusted me to give them an item that I TOLD THEM I WOULD GIVE THEM and instead got something they couldnt use.
what we are talking about here is just plain wrong. I paid this guy 75 dollars and he gave me garbage...now i have to find a way to scrape together money for a new clutch further setting back how long until i can drive my maxima. Its a huge hassle for me and stresses me out. No man should be content with the fact that he just did another man wrong for no good reason.

 

you either didn't read the first post or you're just stupid.

how long have you tried to get in contact with him?

 

Heh.
There's really no excuse for this transaction. Nobody in their right mind would intentionally buy a trashed clutch.

 

that clutch does have a lot of life left to it. i dont think the majority of those who responded in this thread know what they are talking about.

 

No one in their right mind should buy a used clutch....

First, I dont see anywhere in his thread where he says that 60% life is left, he says it has 60% more clamping force than stock.

Second, he had pictures in his thread, you saw what you were buying, you can see in his pictures that a couple of the rivets are scratched.

Third, its your fault for checking three months after buying it. If you can get in contact with him, dont expect a refund, you should have inspected it right away when buying something like a used clutch, not three months later.


edit: Forth, XJinCT is right, there is still some life left on it, Ive seen MUCH worse disks. I wouldnt put it in my car though.

 

The fact that the rivets are getting chewed means it's dead. I'll post pictures of the one that's being changed now in my car for comparison, it's not the same kinf od clutch it's an oem but same kind of wear on it.

 

Oh so its my fault I got ripped off? Don't even start with me. The reason there's no info in the thread is because he deleted it. Think about that?
He told me "no 60 percent clamping force over stock" also, he also said "but there is more than 60 percent life in it also".
He told me there were 8 thousand miles on that clutch.
I appreciate you trying to justify him selling me a useless clutch but there's really nothing more you can say to make me feel better. I got ripped off, that's all there is too it.
I already said I was a noob to clutches, that's why I asked him the questions I did and he assured me it was fine. Others saw the pictures too.
Let me ask it again, do you think I wanted to buy a used up clutch? Do you honestly believe I wanted to give somebody 75 dollars and receive nothing I can use in return?
Its my fault, my ***.

 

suprisingly, those 6-puck clutch's come with barely any material above the rivets. Read my post about the clutch in my 3.5 swap soo worth it thread, mine was worse and it was a cheapo to begin with, It only had about 10-15k on it but was down to the rivets like that (like I said though, mine cam new with barely 1/16th", if that), but I plan on changing it out as soon as I have the money, but then again I can remove and install my tranny pretty quick and don't consider it that much of a hassle. I'll tell you right now, that thing is going to chatter, the pics of the pressure plate show that it is definitly heat scorched and warped, however if your like me and you don't mind pulling your trannsmission again toss it in, it won't slip I promise, and you will be able to spank opn your swap right away!! just be aware that when you do finally upgrade your flywheel will be scorched as well.

 

Thanks 350 for the response. I read in the fsm the cutch should have at least like .03 mm of material above the rivets and then I remembered how this one was down to the rivets themselves so I was like...wtf.
I don't have a huge problem with pulling the tranny but Ill just buy somethin that's gonna last a little while longer rather than messing with this piece of ****. I'm new to learning manual so I thought this would be ideal since its a tough clutch and its not brand new either.
I already had my 3.5 swap runnign on the auto so I know its capable of breaking **** (it broke the auto haha)
Just got my flywheel resurfaced so not really up for scratching the **** out of it.

 

Yes I did think about that, and thats just another reason why you should have dealt with this right when you bought it, not three months later.

If you needed a cheap fix, you should have gone to a place like Kragen. Those cheapo clutches suck, but at least they work.


Getting ripped off sucks, but it happened and there isnt much you can do now. If you need a SUPER cheap fix; go to Kragen and buy a $20 disk and match it up with his PP or yours, either way you are using a used one. Cant say how it will work, Ive never reused preassure plates, but if you are in need of a really cheap fix it might be worth a shot.

 

Well thanks vlasic. I'm just pissed off about it. I'm mad at myself as well for waiting this long to figure it out but I was just too trusting in the seller and everyone else being interested in it as well.
I'm not super broke or anything, I just had my mind set on having a good clutch to learn on. Siked I got a good deal and all that. Such a waste...I see blu on aim all the time but recently I tried contactring him about it and now I never see him on anymore. (He never responded)

 

just got ahold of him, so hes going to refund my money apparently.

 

You're lucky, especially considering you saw pics first, but you should have tossed that thing in there so you could drive your swaps hard right away and get used to driving a stick.

 

eh i'd rather learn on something thats not going to work half assed. and this way i dont have to take out my tranny in a week and get my flywheel resurfaced as well.
plus im 75 dollars NOT poorer.
cant wait to feel this thing with the 5 speed no doubt though. if anyone is lacking patience right now, its me. i've been waiting on axles for a couple weeks now....

 

but there are spots where the rivets are worn on...that has to be a sign of it being DONE.

 

Yes I just noticed that - didn't notice it before my post. Tried to edit my post just now and accidentally deleted it.

 

Heh, well thanks. I realize little material is supposed to be there. I read the fsm this morning and noticed then I checked this disc that I bought and realized it was toast.
Not sure what set up I'm gonna buy next...probably just the 5th gen set up.

 

Honestly I think you should really thank Blu and send him back the clutch and cover his shipping costs or something. You knew exactly what you were buying, he sent you pictures, and judging by that other thread you did not make a rational choice because you were trying to buy it before Bohead could.

In this thread you make Blu sound like a bad guy which is clearly not the case.

 

it's called sarcasm, look it up.

 

i am sending him back the clutch....and i did thank him. But honestly, is there any argument here? Who would buy a clutch that is worn to the rivets? Who would do that? You cant tell me he thought i wanted a clutch that was worn down to the point of it needing to be replaced, im sorry...you just can't convince me of that.
Why i bought the clutch, and the fact that i tried to get it before Bohead is not nearly as relevant as the fact that i wanted a clutch that would be of the condition it was advertised to me to be in. The pictures were from above, i couldnt see the worn rivets really. As i already mentioned, I was not too familiar with clutches and took his word for it that it only had 8 thousand miles on it with plenty of life left.
I could not get ahold of Blu, apparently he was out of town for awhile.
I do feel bad to make him out to be a "bad guy" but I dont see how i have done anything wrong. I can not believe that there are people in defense of such a situation...I would love to see how yall feel when put in my position. And then let a bunch of people tell you how its your fault.

 

You My Boy Blu!!

 

This is partially my fault. I am the one that told him the clutch had some life left in it so he went by that. Puck clutches usually look pretty thin when they're new. I only saw one of the pucks which looked fine. I am completely baffled as to how I missed seeing worn rivets on this thing, that's not like me at all to miss something as obvious as that.

 

i knew they were thin, and when i thoroughly inspected it i noticed these things. I can't get you a picture of the pressure plate because i have packaged it all up to send back to him. I'm going to ship it when i get out of school. I only took it out of the box for a brief second.
thanks for you input (i gotta go respond to the other thread you commented in now, but then i gotta get back to work, im at school)

 

i seriously think it will last you a pretty long while. it might chatter a little. but the thing is if you use it. and you have to replace it in like 2 years then almost guarenteed going to need a new flywheel

 

would you put that on your car?

 

The quote in my sig is a good piece of advise. Esp when you are dealing with something you know little about.
I got ripped on a set or rims/tires I purchased off an org member. As in your situation, it was my own fault also. It was dark and raining. All the rims had tires on them and they were in big black garbage bags. I peeked in a few and assumed the rest were ok. I get home and the next day take them out of the bag to see 2 of the tires (that were supposed to have at least 50% tread left on them, were slicks with metal wires coming out. The other 2 tires, they had good tread life left, but were cracked with dry rot.
Just learn from your mistakes and don't get ripped again. At least it was a small price to pay for a pretty valuable lesson in life. Not everybody is honest and when theres cash involved, forget about it.

 

I put one in slightly worse condition in my car........

hahaha, 2-years though! NO WAY!!!! I don't plan on having that thing in there for more than 2-weeks! Clutch gets worse, decides to shatter at 7k rpm's, disc and pressure plate explodes through trans case, shears through fire-wall, cut's through dashboard like a hot knife through butter, where it eventually makes it's way towards me and cuts me completely in half from my ******* to my scalp, I'm all set. And that stuff happens, not often, but it happens, why do you think they make universal scattersheilds? Clutch=major safety item. Always tourqe to spec and use locktight.

 

 

i saw your quote before, i like it! I was too trustworthy of the org but atleast i am getting my money back in this case. I do not currently have a job, and i worked hard for the money that i spend on my car. I may be naive in choosing my battles but i am certainly not quick to be taken advantage of when it comes to money. Ive seen too many people get ripped off to sit back and says "that sucks". Its not OUR fault we got sold these things...yes we could have been more careful but in an honest world we would have gotten the items the way they were advertised to us. If i paid for a clutch i was told to be worn to the rivets and would chatter with miniscule to no ammount of padding on it, then it would be my fault to recieve this.
but i'm being redundant...im just really on the defense when people start trying to tell me its my fault as if thats what i deserve (i know that was not what you were saying though).