Just have your Attorney do the talking with your warranty co. regional super & finance co.

It's all

 

Tear them a new @sshole..

 

This is all insane.
I've had the K&N drop-in filter in my car for a good 6+ years without a problem.

 

This is terrible. I feel really bad for you. It makes me sick when I hear about people getting screwed like that. Personally, I would never trust a third party warranty. A false sense of security is a terrible thing to waste your money on. The only warranty I would trust is the original warranty from the manufacturer. They are the only ones who really have a stake in making sure that you are happy with all aspects of your vehicle purchase. Once the original warranty is up, you’re better off just taking your chances. Wynn’s doesn’t give a rat’s *** if you are happy or not because they know that the financial institution that gave you your loan will continue to send them fresh victims on a regular basis, regardless of whether or not they honor their warranties. I say shame, not only on the Wynne’s warranty company, but also on the financial institution that required you to waste your money on their bogus warranty. I would be very suspicious of any financial institution which requires its customers to buy third party car warranty. The warranty company is probably the sister company of the lender...nice racket. Even if they do eventually honor the warranty, if you consider the amount of your own time wasted, the amount you initially spent on the warranty, money spent on taxis or rentals or whatever during the time that you are without a vehicle, and the $600+ that you spent so far to try to get the repair authorization, you would have been better off without the warranty and just pay an independent mechanic to do the repairs when they happen. Sorry, I’m not saying that to make you feel bad, it’s just a word of warning for everyone to consider when buying a used car and the somebody tries to push a third party warranty on you.

 

I agree ^ an attorney will probably let them know u mean buisness and if u get your way via the attorney you'll only be out a couple of bucks for lawyer fees>> a good lawyer will probably let u know if u have a case or not. I sued my insurance company for an accident i had with my other car, they tried to deny coverage...needless to say they paid

 

YO!! It makes me want to fight this battle for you.....No more talking, like I said send them a certified letter cc to all you spoke to, by now you should be talking to a lawyer. You should search and see if your alone in this fight. The more you have against the company the more it will help your case.

Also I've never seen a dealer require extended warranties on their cars, I hope they paid the premium it sounds like you have a legal ground to get this dealer named in the suit. Sounds like they know they sell garbage but want their customers to foot the bill for the warranty so they dont have to on their lemons. Im sorry but they would have to be held liable for forcing you to buy this p-o-s policy.

 

it wasn't the dealership that required him to get the warranty, he said it was necessary from the company he financed it through...

 

Hey if you want to post the # and name of someone at the warranty company, I would be glad to call them 3-5 times a day for a few weeks, as would many others I'm sure........ "hey, I'm calling on behalf of so-'n-so, I was wondering if you had planned to deny his claim still blah blah blah" I think 50 calls a day from .org members would get them to cut a check pretty quick........

 

My bad, I thought it was the dealer, even though I dont understand why the financing co. would require that. If they where worried that he was buying a piece of crap they shouldnt of financed him, he needs to goto the source; the finance company made money on him selling that policy....chef it is not required by law for you to have an extended warranty on your car, the fact that they let you think it is required by them sounds cash motivated they get paid to resell that garbage, just like the stealerships. Goto the source they sold you that mess, put pressure on the ppl that sold it to you.

"if a man, who has or professes to have special knowledge or skill, makes a representation by virtue thereof to another…with the intention of inducing him to enter into a contract with him, he is under a duty to use reasonable care to see that the representation is correct, and that the advice, information or opinion is reliable "

Read this....browse the sight for more helpful info....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misrepresentation

 

Are you serious!? I just put my K&N Panel Filter in...looks like I gota take it out!

Sorry to the OP about your troubles. I hope everything works out for you. I say definitely go after them.

 

I would join in and give a few calls a day if thats what it takes. As said before...an air filter would not cause your engine to fail. The MAF going bad unusually would be the first sign of a crappy air filter. Sounds to me like your engine got starved of oil. Anyways GOOD LUCK AND KEEP FIGHTING. YOU CAN WIN THIS.

 

Evan, so sorry to hear the news. All I can add is that K&N treats their drop-in filters very differently from the cone types. Drop-in types qualify for their Million mile warranty, whereas cone types do not as they are purpose built for off-road only. Sounds like it was a drop-in style and not a WAI, or CAI type so keep working with them to support your claim.

P.S. When I rode with you in April the car pulled nicely and I commented how it seemed a bit stronger then your mods suggested. Butt dyno noticed no warning of probs back then.

 

Nonsense!

Your warranty has expired, unless you also took out a 3rd party warranty.


I have had my K&N panel filter for 3 years with no problems.

I am going to send my oil out for a UOA later this year to see if I have elevated levels of silicone, which skyjumper has warned me about.

I don't believe I will given the restrictive nature of our stock airboxes.

 

what do u mean by restrictive ? air is air, it either goes into ur engine with silicone (ie: dirt) in it or it does not.

 

Wynn is the worst extendes warranty you can buy. My cousin bought a car with their extended warranty, and just from reading the brouchure which looks like it was made at the last minute, didnt cover anything. With her warranty through Wynn, she could only take it to certian places when she needed repairs. Some shops wouldnt work with Wynn because they said they dont pay the repair shop. I really wish I could help you think of some options. Maybe the dealer can work with you and cut you a deal on the labor and a used engine. I know at Carmax customer who purchased their cars from us we try to help them when we can and within reason. My first advice would be to cancel the extended warranty and see if you can get some money back on the unused portion (prorated) I dont see why they wouldnt give you back your money based on the fact that they chose to void your warranty.

When I had the Carmax warranty, by "The Warranty Group" a company that Carmax buys the warranty from pay a claim on my car I had a strut tower bar, aftermarket lights, installed on my car. They even came out and took pics the times when an adjuster was needed and never found it a problem. If they were going to void a claim they would have to prove that those aftermarket mods led to failure, and I work in the Carmax service dept as a writter and I've yet to see a K&N and Strut Tower bar void any warranty. If the Nissan even sells those for their new products...and most dealers sell them. The only vehicle I know that will void and damage it MAF is the Ford Taurus...it even say not to install one on the air box. I really wish I could offer some more advice, but look at those options and let us know what works.

 

That contract states that the warranty is void if any modification is made to the vehicle...well thats funny...as soon as I changed my oil..I modified my vehicle with a new oil filter...damn, I guess my warranty is void. BS. Filter is a no brainer in terms of fighting this one. A filter is a filter and autozone and kragen's both sell mostly k&n. And it seems to me that if they want to argue that your car has been modified with strut brace...well I'm almost positive if you stood up in front of a judge and told him a strut brace is for safety and allows the car to steer better that the court battle would steer..sorry for the pun...in your direction. I mean thats what it is! It allows the car to steer better. I mean the warranty company arguing this is like saying i'm sorry your warranty is void because you put a 5-point harness in your vehicle and modified your vehicle. Many many people modify their vehicle for one reason or another and that clause is there so that companies can say...no your oil pan isn't covered under warranty because you lowered your car by cutting the springs. Thats legitimate.

fight this tooth and nail and drag more and more people into this if they refuse to back down.

 

This makes me want to recreate the battle scene from Braveheart.

 

read the K&N Web site, this is BS, call K&N and make a big fuss, involve the news if u have to

they are trying to screw with u, K&N specifically worked with lawyers to create a Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act http://www.knfilters.com/warrantyletter.htm

That insurance companu is gona get is A$$ lit on fire and will replace ur engine, this makes me more and more pissed. an air filter in a STOCK BOX is not an engine modification

get a load of this from the K&N web site:
"If you have encountered a motor vehicle dealer, who has failed and refused to “demonstrate” or prove, as federal law requires, that your K&N air filter necessitated a repair for which warranty coverage has been denied, or a manufacturer, who refuses to perform warranty repairs on your vehicle, merely because you have installed a K&N replacement air filter or based on inaccurate information from your dealer, then we ask that you request that the dealer or manufacturer set forth, in writing, the warranty denial, together with a written statement as to the specific reasons for the denial of warranty repairs, and that you send a copy of this written statement to K&N. We also ask that you direct your dealer and manufacturer to the federal law quoted above. K&N assists consumers in this situation through the K&N Consumer Protection Pledge. For details please go to the K&N website at KNFilters.com or contact our customer service department at 800-858-3333."

basically if u should proceed with some action like this because the law is on your side, and so are we!!!

 

Yeah with bagpipe music blasting

 

You need to contact the state attorney general and discuss this with a consumer protection advocate. Additionally, I would start collecting any information that you can about the company, specifically by googling it and the word "complaint" or "denial."

When you next speak with them, ask them whether changing your TIRES or SPARK PLUGS would have voided the warranty. Tires and spark plugs- like an air filter- are called for as a part of the manufacturer's maintainance program, but as the Magnuson-Moss is designed to do, consumers are protected against monopolistic replacement part requirements as a part of warranty work. If you replace the part, it does NOT have to be replaced with the OEM part- just a functional equivalent.

I have dealt with these companies before (professionally) and while it is a huge pain, you can normally win. My clients often had to pay out of pocket and were later reimbursed. The next time you speak with a rep, read to them the relevent portion of the Magnuson-Moss Act, AND stress that your next call WILL be to the state AG's office...even better, call the AG's office and get the name of a contact there, then call the warranty company, and when thye tell you somethign that is different from what the Magnuson-Moss Act and the AG have to say, offer the # and contact info for the person who you spoke to at the AG's office.

Also, please, PLEASE take down the name and title of EVERONE you speak to abotu this. IF you end up in litigation, either privately or through an AG-sponsored case, it will help your cause.

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.g...ers/index.html

 

While it could help, remember, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act , is for the MANUFACTURER of the vehicle, NOT a 3rd party extended provider to protect the consumer against crappy vehicles.

 

Good point...

 

Monday, I'm going to the dealer that sold me the car, and tell them everything that happened, and how I think I was sold a lemon. Every month-month and a half, I have to sink another $600+ into it. And now, $5K? The car is only worth $4800. Actually, without a motor, it's only worth $700 worth of scrap metal.

 

Dude from the sounds of it. Looks like they got you.!! When you bought the car did you get a car fax?

I hate dealers who sell cars like that and not inform the customer

 

How can the warranty people void your coverage when courtesy nissan sells the K&N filter as a maintenance part. try bringing that to their attention

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...Code=33-2031-1

good luck

 

I got a letter from the dealer, where the car currently sits right now, that says:

"UPON INSPECTION OF THE VEHICLE, WHILE THE AIR FILTER ITSELF WAS REPLACED WITH AN AFTERMARKET FILTER, THE AIR INTAKE SYSTEM WAS NOT ALTERED OR MODIFIED, AND THE CAUSE OF THE MOTOR FAILURE WAS NOT DUE TO THE AIR FILTER, BUT TO AN INTERNAL MALFUNCTION (I.E., OIL PUMP MALFUNCTION, OR SPUN BEARINGS), WHICH THEN CAUSED THE TOTAL FAILURE OF THE MOTOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR BUSINESS! --CONTINENTAL NISSAN."


F You, Wynn's! Now what, BISHES!

 

When my second maxima was an auto I had the transmission fail on me. I had an aftermarket warranty on the car still, and they asked me to provide them with reciepts that the transmission fluid had be changed. Well I had just moved to WA at the time, and the place I was staying at was broken into and my file with all my reciepts in it was stolen, along with numerous other items. I went down and talked to the service manager, and he went to bat for me, telling them that the fluid looked brand new, it had a new filter, and that he was positive that the fluid had been changed. They honored my warranty.

 

GOOD!!....right when you here that first......."oh?"..........tell them........and you can finally get paid....

 

That is good news mate! Glad they at least can understand that an airfilter couldn't possibly cause an engine to tear itself apart. Sorry for your pain in the a$$ experience, but at least it sounds like your in the right here. Stick it to Wynn's if you can ... and for all others, be carefull of who you warranty thru ... lesson learned.

 

http://badbusinessbureau.com/searchr...ch%21&q5=wynns

 

1) Get a lawyer, it should only amount to a couple hours at most of attorney time to review the warranty contract, give you an opinion and write a letter to the warranty company. I couldn't begin to tell you if the Magnasun-Moss act applies to 3rd-party extended warranties, or if the "modifications" clause in your warranty will hold up.... and from the looks of things, neither could anyone else on this thread.
2) If you lose, don't pay $3400 to have you engine replaced. Rent a car (call rent-a-wreck) for a week. Buy or rent a cheap engine hoist and some basic tools. Get a used engine from a local salvage yard. Worst case you'll be out $1000 and a weekend.

 

UPDATE:


After a ton of drama, berating, and basically being told I'm a degenerate, my dad is springing the bill for the repairs at a different facility.


There's a shop across the street from work, called Honest Engine, and they have a 98 motor with 52K on it, 2 year warranty on parts and labor, unlimited miles, installed, $2275 out the door. Had to shell out $965.80 to Continental Nissan for the work they've already done, plus a new 5th gen clutch/pp for the other shop to install.



Should be done thursday or friday.

 

So your paying $2275 for a VQ30? I hope insurance/warantee company covered that because you could have gotten a VQ35 for that price. However, Im glad to hear everything has finally worked out!

 

just plain sh'tty.

you've got the letter from the dealer. that is your evidence. now go sue the warranty company in small claims court...
http://198.173.15.31/newsite/?sectio...EPage=Lawsuits

 

and this too...
http://www.ag.state.il.us/consumers/smlclaims.html

go get them!

 

Soooo, what exactly happened with the warranty claim? You're still pursuing it right?

I actually had a good experience with Wynns but most of that was due to the service manager at the dealer I went to. My Cadillac received a replacement 12k mile tranny for my deductible of $150, all in all a job around $2500. Plus I had a combination of loaner/rental to cover the nearly two weeks it was in the shop. But I know that is the exception to the rule.

 

I imagine he's giving up on fighting the warrenty company so he can drive his car again, and quit paying $230 a week for a rental car.

 

As per my legal counsel, I'm not at liberty to discuss what my course of action with Wynn's is.


Let's just say, they screwed over the wrong guy!

 

Good for you, My G/F has a Envoy, and I just bought the Max, and I've already started getting "Aftermarket" propaganda in the mail, Her's started when the warranty ran out, BIG money racket.

 

I read this post a few weeks ago and was wondering what ever happened with your claim...

One would think that the letter from the Nissan dealer would be enough to make the warranty company realize it's mistake and cover you for all the BS and hassle they made you go through..

It's great that your dad is able to help you get your car back on the road and I hope that you, your dad, and your lawyer a$$rape the hell out of that company and get ever penny back and then some in compensation..

Good Luck!