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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by RedMax95
wow those are some big azz fog lights, if you can get away with it remove the liscence plate, you will be quite pleased
I would love to remove it, but I dont know how. Can you tell me? Thanks. The lights are acutally driving lights - they are PIAA 1500 series.

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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 09:18 PM
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looks good. whats up with the line?
Old Jul 23, 2001 | 09:30 PM
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RE: Exhuast...

1/3There2/3ToGo, your exhaust system looks SO good...and I bet it performs VERY well too...Damn!
Old Jul 23, 2001 | 09:33 PM
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u may want to skip 3/4 the way down...
ok, fog lights, well did u install them yourself? if not you will just have to look under there, the installer either put the mounting screws which would just have to be unscrewed, you may be able to remove the light first, then the harness, that would most likely take a hex wrench, thats how mine work, some are simply stuck on with 3m double sided tape, pull down and they should come off, then make sure to remove all the left over adhesive, as far as wiring every light has different ways they did it, if you have a switch inside you will take the wires out and run them back through the hole in the firewall assuming there is one, there are probably wires and metal connectors up under there that you could simply disconnect, and maybe a relay, it all matters on the way they were installed, i just realized that u were talking about the liscense plate, so i am leaving the above info so maybe it will help someone else, the plate is taken off by unscrewing the plate from the black piece, then there are two annoying screws set back behind there, remove them and presto, mke sure to clean it real good, u will be surprised be the mess under there, give it a wax, and it will look great, sorry i thought u wanted to remove the fogs, just got a little confused, why take off lights you spent good money on, well i changed mine when i did my front bumper conversion and they look awesome
Old Jul 23, 2001 | 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by SMakin'Max
looks good. whats up with the line?
Go* DA** Sun reflection from the rear window to the camera lense. I will take a new pic tomorrow and make sure it doesnt have a line.

RedMax95, there are not 2 screws behind the liscence plate. When I took off the plate and looked at the black frame behind it there were no screws. How do I take it off? Does it just have 2 sided tape?

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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 10:25 PM
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Re: RE: Exhuast...

Originally posted by Vyrus
1/3There2/3ToGo, your exhaust system looks SO good...and I bet it performs VERY well too...Damn!
Thank you, and yes - once it hits 3000 rpm you feel it push you into the seat. It did loose some low end power due to the 3" pipe leading to the muffler, but that also is what made it gain high-end power. I will try to take a pic of the bottom of it tomorrow as well as a new pic of the back(without a line from the sun) and soon I will have a sound bite ready. I dont know about the under the car pic though, I dont know when I will have it on a lift again, soon I hope.

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Old Jul 23, 2001 | 11:59 PM
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ok forget the money and weight thing for now.
Even if you plug up 1 tip and run slower or faster doesnt necessary prove anything. There are too many varibles that will contribute to anything lesser then 1/10th of a sec. As i stated earlier, you didnt need so much piping to begin with, so plugging up 1 tip wont make a difference. Think of it this way. You have a a 1.6L 4cyl. You put dual 3" exhausts on it. It already flows so much that even if you plugged up one hole completely it wont make one bit difference. see what im trying to say?
Old Jul 24, 2001 | 12:11 AM
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1/3there, I think it looks sweet bro, and all that matters is if you like it or not. It doesnt matter what everyone else thinks and I seriously doubt it will make enough difference if your 1/4 time to really matter. Take Care
Old Jul 24, 2001 | 02:52 AM
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bumper

hey that looks sweet man. congrats!! i got a q but. did u cut out the bumper on the left hand side. if so how and does it look like wierd from close up? just wondering. nice setup by the way. i had two dunks hanging one time and it looked sweet. one wasnt hooked up but. they were togethere like the dual n1 canisters. hehe. anyways nice. peace b
Old Jul 24, 2001 | 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
Think of it this way. You have a a 1.6L 4cyl. You put dual 3" exhausts on it. It already flows so much that even if you plugged up one hole completely it wont make one bit difference.
You cannnot logicaly compair a 1.6L 4cyl. engine to a 3.0L V-6 if you continue to use a 3" pipe. Now, if you want to put a 2" pipe on a 1.6L that is a different story. Here is my main point for the argument of pluging one of the holes. I have 2.5" comming all the way from the exhaust manifolds to the cat, then it goes to a 3" pipe to the muffler, which is where I have 2 different sizes of pipe running out if that. I have 2.25" comming straight out the back and 2.5" wraping around the spare tire. Now, that all equates to 2.5" from the engine expanding for flow purposes to 3" for the "B-pipe" section which then expands to 5.75" of total output from the muffler. If I reduce the 5.75" comming out of the muffler down to 2.5" or 2.25" that would create some back preasure and increase performance. If it does improve performance by less than .1 on the 1/4 has yet to be seen. Im not expecting it to make that much of a difference and you are correct that many different factors could contribute to a lower time besides just plugging one of the pipes. I might be wrong here but are you stating that the stock 2.5" pipe has more than enough room for the exhaust to flow freely? Then how come my low end dropped and my top end picked up with the 3" pipe? That is what Im basing everything on, the performance changes that I have due to the new exhaust.

SB97MAX - thank you for understanding why I did it, for the looks, the performance increase is only a bonus.

hawaii_maxxed - I cut it myself since I wanted to ensure it would be the correct size and in the correct position. I used a hand held power saw. I dont know exactly what they are called but you need an air compressor to use them. They are about 5" long and about 2"X2" to hold on to. The blade goes in and out from the top of it and the blade is about 3-4" long. It took me about 30-40 minutes to measure it all right and to cut BOTH sides. The factory side has a lip on it that is about 1" long and goes in towards the muffler. Since I couldnt recreate this on the other side I cut it off this side for symetry.

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Old Jul 24, 2001 | 11:18 PM
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the stock piping isnt 2.5" I think the Stillen B-pipe is 2.5" I dont belive Butt dyno is accurate enough for you to see low or high end gains with exhaust. A change in exhaust sound can make one belive their car is faster

Butt dyno and small differences in 1/4 mi doesnt prove you made or gained power. I think the REAL proof is when you can show back to back dyno's with one pipe plugged up and one unplugged.
Old Jul 24, 2001 | 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
the stock piping isnt 2.5" I think the Stillen B-pipe is 2.5" I dont belive Butt dyno is accurate enough for you to see low or high end gains with exhaust. A change in exhaust sound can make one belive their car is faster

Butt dyno and small differences in 1/4 mi doesnt prove you made or gained power. I think the REAL proof is when you can show back to back dyno's with one pipe plugged up and one unplugged.
*Sigh*

Ok, My "butt dyno" isnt the only thing I am basing this power gain on. I 1/4 tested my car stock, it ran a 17.34@83.20 mph. After ALL the mods I ran a 16.59@85.60 mph. BUT I did do a self test of the 1/4 mile using a stopwatch and a passenger to watch the odomiter. BEFORE the cat-back system was installed I ran a 16.96(avg over 5 runs) This friday night I will go to the track, plug the smaller of the 2 exhaust holes, do a run, unplug it and do another run. Friday night I will post the times for each run, the full sheet too, not just the end times - I will include everything. Then maybe you will realize that I didnt do this just for a power increase, but also for looks/sound.

As for the sound - I dont THINK that my car goes faster now that it is loud, I have the numbers to PROVE that it does. Im not trying to flame you or anything, but you dont seem to understand my motive for doing this mod this way. Yes, I want a fast car, but I REALLY want a car that looks and sounds good.

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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by 1/3There2/3ToGo


*Sigh*

Ok, My "butt dyno" isnt the only thing I am basing this power gain on. I 1/4 tested my car stock, it ran a 17.34@83.20 mph. After ALL the mods I ran a 16.59@85.60 mph. BUT I did do a self test of the 1/4 mile using a stopwatch and a passenger to watch the odomiter. BEFORE the cat-back system was installed I ran a 16.96(avg over 5 runs) This friday night I will go to the track, plug the smaller of the 2 exhaust holes, do a run, unplug it and do another run. Friday night I will post the times for each run, the full sheet too, not just the end times - I will include everything. Then maybe you will realize that I didnt do this just for a power increase, but also for looks/sound.

As for the sound - I dont THINK that my car goes faster now that it is loud, I have the numbers to PROVE that it does. Im not trying to flame you or anything, but you dont seem to understand my motive for doing this mod this way. Yes, I want a fast car, but I REALLY want a car that looks and sounds good.

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what he's trying to say is that he did it for the looks. check this out i put a cherry air-freshner so my car would smell nice and i used to run in the 20's and now with the air-freshner i'm in the 19's. ( lol,lol,lol,lol)

the car does look nice with dual exhaust. i would like that look on my car but with different style tips.
Old Jul 25, 2001 | 01:14 PM
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what he's trying to say is that he did it for the looks. check this out i put a cherry air-freshner so my car would smell nice and i used to run in the 20's and now with the air-freshner i'm in the 19's. ( lol,lol,lol,lol)

the car does look nice with dual exhaust. i would like that look on my car but with different style tips.
LMFAO, Thank you for seeing my point. I agree about the tips, they are just temps until I decide what I really want on there. Im thinking 4" would look better but when I drop my car I dont want them scraping. I might get a tip that angles up, I dont know.

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Old Jul 25, 2001 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by 1/3There2/3ToGo


LMFAO, Thank you for seeing my point. I agree about the tips, they are just temps until I decide what I really want on there. Im thinking 4" would look better but when I drop my car I dont want them scraping. I might get a tip that angles up, I dont know.

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im not sure how it would look on a maxima but how about pointing them up and outwards like on supras, 240s, eclipes, Zs...

here's some examples:
http://www.twinturboz.net/z/myz2.jpg
http://www.twinturboz.net/z/myz4.jpg
http://www.twinturboz.net/z/myz5.jpg
Old Jul 25, 2001 | 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by _DRU_


im not sure how it would look on a maxima but how about pointing them up and outwards like on supras, 240s, eclipes, Zs...

here's some examples:
http://www.twinturboz.net/z/myz2.jpg
http://www.twinturboz.net/z/myz4.jpg
http://www.twinturboz.net/z/myz5.jpg
Those look tight. I dont think I can do that on my car without modifying the bumper more than I want to right now. It is something for me to consider in the future though. Thanks for the pics.

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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 01:04 AM
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ummm, i dont really care what you did this mod for, whether it be for looks/sound/performance. You brought up you were gonna plug one exhaust tip up to see if there were any gains. I am simply stating to you that i dont belive plugging up one of those tips will show increase in power. Your 1/4mi times may change but i still dont belive its due to the exhaust toying.

I mean no offense by this, but you ran a 17sec 1/4mi. That is kinda slow for even a bone stock Maxima. You should be running in the 15's. Lower 16's due to high altitude and mods. So even with mod or no mod, there is room for improvement.
Old Jul 26, 2001 | 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
ummm, i dont really care what you did this mod for, whether it be for looks/sound/performance. You brought up you were gonna plug one exhaust tip up to see if there were any gains. I am simply stating to you that i dont belive plugging up one of those tips will show increase in power. Your 1/4mi times may change but i still dont belive its due to the exhaust toying.

I mean no offense by this, but you ran a 17sec 1/4mi. That is kinda slow for even a bone stock Maxima. You should be running in the 15's. Lower 16's due to high altitude and mods. So even with mod or no mod, there is room for improvement.
Im not taking any offense by your comments I just thought you misunderstood me. My car is a '95 GXE auto with 150,000 miles on it. I ran the 1/4 at aproximatley 4900 feet. I know the times are slow and I think it is due to the high mileage. The 17 second 1/4 was run stock and I ran a 16.6 with the mods, so Im not that far off from the "low 16's" you say I should be running, but I do think it is due to mileage. I thought you wanted me to plug one of the tubes to see if that increased the power. I had to put on a "turbo tube" today just behind the cat. It quieted down the exhaust and took out the "ricy" sound I was getting at high end rpms. They said this will increase the back preasure and add a little power. I dont think it will be noticable on the track though. I will run again this friday and I might plug one of the holes, and might not. I will post side by side comparisons if I do.

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Old Jul 26, 2001 | 07:32 AM
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how much did this cost, cuz i've been wanting to do it...it looks and sounds sweet, so i dont car about extra weight and bullsh* ok. thanks. how did you get around the spare tire wheel problem?
Old Jul 27, 2001 | 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by Daddy Fat Sacks
how much did this cost, cuz i've been wanting to do it...it looks and sounds sweet, so i dont car about extra weight and bullsh* ok. thanks. how did you get around the spare tire wheel problem?
It cost me $375. It took 5 hours to do. We used a camero muffler so that there is one inlet and 2 outlets for the exhaust. we have it placed in the same spot as the stock one. The pipe that comes out the left side of the bumper wrapped around the spare tire and was bent several times(about 6 or 7 to make a proper fit) and now looks stock. They took their time to do it but the way it looks and sounds was definatley worth it(by looks I also meen the way it looks from under the car).

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