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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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UDP Subs Dead Alternator?? HELP

Just found out my alternator is bad and getting a new one. Will replacing the Stock Crank pulley prevent me from killing another alternator? I have 2x10" Type R's 1000watts total RMS subs and headlight dimming with the UDP.

97 max 100k miles with UDP & Red Top
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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UDP does barely nothing on our cars.

People say that the UDP will drain your battery quicker if you have subs. Which in turn I think will kill your alternator quicker I think....
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For some reason the alternator doesn't get to put out as much amperage with the udp, I remember looking at a chart comparing the stock pulley to udp with alt amperage and it was way less than stock, so if you have a system it's one or the other. I would say if you track your car alot or autocross, keep the udp and ditch the system, or try to do the big 3 upgrade to help the dimming.
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so the UDP underpowered the system's amperage/voltage/both?
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The diameter of the pulley causes the attached belt components to spin slower from what I've read so you get a lower alt output. Like at idle for example if it normally puts out 25 amps it's only putting out 20 amps with the udp, that's just an example, but I think at around 4000-5000 rpm it puts out around 125-135, with the udp it puts out around 115. And remember a stock alt is designed for stock stuff, so when you add a system you are already going above the engineer recs (even though most alts can still handle it) and then when you lower the output with an udp your just at a loss. I would do the big 3 and see what happens.
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Skip the UDP and look in to having the alternator rebuilt to handle your system.
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nad819
Just found out my alternator is bad and getting a new one. Will replacing the Stock Crank pulley prevent me from killing another alternator? I have 2x10" Type R's 1000 watts total RMS subs and headlight dimming with the UDP.

97 max 100k miles with UDP & Red Top

Just how much juice are those two tens pulling? I knowyou stated what they could handle at RMS but what are you pushing to them?
I ran a UDP with two Kicker Comp VR twelves for years with no issues. I had a 500 watt amp pushing them so it wasnt a major system but the car performed fine power wise with the UDP.
If your pulling some major juice then it might be wise to ditch the UDP.
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Originally Posted by maxgtr2000
The diameter of the pulley causes the attached belt components to spin slower from what I've read so you get a lower alt output. Like at idle for example if it normally puts out 25 amps it's only putting out 20 amps with the udp, that's just an example, but I think at around 4000-5000 rpm it puts out around 125-135, with the udp it puts out around 115. And remember a stock alt is designed for stock stuff, so when you add a system you are already going above the engineer recs (even though most alts can still handle it) and then when you lower the output with an udp your just at a loss. I would do the big 3 and see what happens.

I thought the 4th gens OEM alt put out 115 amps and the 5th gens put out 125?
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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I thought the 4th gens OEM alt put out 115 amps and the 5th gens put out 125?
The guy at autozone said stock alternator was 125.

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Just how much juice are those two tens pulling?
They are 1000rms 3000max powered by 2 kenwood amps, I usually keep them turned all the way up.


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I would do the big 3 and see what happens.
I was looking into the components for it, how long of run do I need for alt to battery? What is the diameter of the post on the alternator to fit the eye ring that I'll be adding. 5/16" sound right?
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Originally Posted by nad819
They are 1000rms 3000max powered by 2 kenwood amps, I usually keep them turned all the way up.

So you have two 1000w amps pushing them? If so, I'd ditch the UDP.
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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using a udp is a contradiction to having a system. you don't want to under-drive the alternator if your pulling a larger than normal current. you can get a lightweight stock diameter pulley and doing the big 3 is always a good idea. just figure out how you're gonna run the wires and measure.
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