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Old 08-16-2001, 12:07 AM
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Ok first run I went through the water by axcident and got only wheel spin through 3rd and just dumped it into 5th...I wont tell you the 1/4 time for that..

My second run i got a pretty good launch but didnt come up to happy...here are the #'s....remember I was nervous as hell!!!

R/T 1.046
60' 2.567
1/8 10.467
mph 68.75
1/4 16.048
MPH 89.29

bad for a 5spd

I dont know what I did wrong...I guess I didnt get a good launch or I shifted too soon through the gears...I think I shifted to soon into second and I didnt shift out of 3rd which I think is a mistake since i was top end 3rd at the end...im goin back next wed and ill fix any pending problems

I did beat the Integra that I raced with an exhaust and intake

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im still waiting for my first time at the track but ill bet ill smoke you ahahaa just kidding mines auto
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:17 AM
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I dont know what I did wrong...I'll do better next time and wont be so nervous...that was my main problem


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I dont know what I did wrong...I'll do better next time and wont be so nervous...that was my main problem


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Where in the RPM's did you shift? You should shift at redline for the fastest time.

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Originally posted by 1/3There2/3ToGo


Where in the RPM's did you shift? You should shift at redline for the fastest time.

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hey, your 14.8 doesnt seem realistic man... i thought you had a manual, but auto? did you mean 15.8? (not tryin to bag or flame, just wondering)
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hey, your 14.8 doesnt seem realistic man... i thought you had a manual, but auto? did you mean 15.8? (not tryin to bag or flame, just wondering)
Yes, it is a 14.8 with an auto. Im not exacly stock though and I did take almost everything out of my car(passengers seat, rear seat and seatback, spare tire, sub box, amps and a few other things). That is corrected for sea level though, not what I acutally ran up here in Colorado. I know a guy in my car club that just put on his SC and he is running 12.9 with an auto and that is NOT corrected for sealevel. I should have my SC on in early to mid September, check my sig again then.

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I didn't bring 1st out all the way like I should have...I brought it to about 6100 then second to about 6500 then third I just ran past the finish line with at about redline...do you think I should go to 4th or stay in 3rd ?? ...Come on some help. I'm like embarrased with a 16 but it was my first time and I was so nervous

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Make sure you slip the clutch off the line, and feel for traction.....then wind 1st all the way up to redline...and shift as fast as you can, wind second to 6200, then shift to third, wind third up to about 6000 or a little less...and cross the line in 4th.
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Originally posted by 1/3There2/3ToGo


Yes, it is a 14.8 with an auto. Im not exacly stock though and I did take almost everything out of my car(passengers seat, rear seat and seatback, spare tire, sub box, amps and a few other things). That is corrected for sea level though, not what I acutally ran up here in Colorado.

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Corrected times don't mean a thing. All that matters is what you actually ran. That falls into the "I would have beat him if I had a 5 speed" street racing excuse. Post what you actually ran and mention the altitude, but don't go bragging about corrected times.
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your launch needs work.. you have to get the 2.5 60' down (2.2-2.3 at least!). Shift at redline and you should be fine topping out in third gear.

And get an intake, like a blue place racing one!
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Dont worry my first run ever was a 16.1. Thats bad driving not your cars fault.I ran 14 times at maxus ,and each time i got better and learned.I recomend slight wheelspin at launch.
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Practice

Maybe if there is an open stretch of road near you you could practice on that to help figure out where the shifts feel best at.

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I feel much better now, 16.3@85 in an AUTOMAGIC. Anyway, have you check your compression lately?
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I feel much better now, 16.3@85 in an AUTOMAGIC. Anyway, have you check your compression lately?
Sweet, my POS is faster than the fabled GLE-R...
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i'm no expert, but this guy claims his buddy is running 12.9 in an auto with a stillen supercharger, and it's not adjusted for altitude or whatever. ? it's going to take a heck of a lot more than that supercharger to get 12.9. motor trend tested the smx maxima with the stillen supercharger at 14.4. I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.
 
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Originally posted by hjerrod
i'm no expert, but this guy claims his buddy is running 12.9 in an auto with a stillen supercharger, and it's not adjusted for altitude or whatever. ? it's going to take a heck of a lot more than that supercharger to get 12.9. motor trend tested the smx maxima with the stillen supercharger at 14.4. I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.
The fastest I remember seeing was SteveChicagoSC running a 13.5 with his auto. But he had many other mods too.
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The fastest I remember seeing was SteveChicagoSC running a 13.5 with his auto. But he had many other mods too.
I wonder if this one he did the 12 seconds or so was on a full 1/4 or more of an 1/8?

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Originally posted by mzmtg


Sweet, my POS is faster than the fabled GLE-R...
It's ROAD fast, not track fast. Yeah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...
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It's ROAD fast, not track fast. Yeah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...
Sheeeit, man. I'm road fast too.
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man, i hate reading posts like this, but i love it too... lol, i cant wait to take my car out and see how fast it is, stock, then as i add more to it i wanna check my times with each mod... it gets me all anxious to take my car out though...
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G-tech

I think I might pick up a g-tech since going to the track is not always easy to get around to. Then that way there I can practive before finding out there I am not ready to go at it yet. Anyone here use one much?

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ok

I havent checked the compression at all with 93K on it...And I do so well on the street but when it comes to the track I get nervous as hell...with that helmet and all the noise every were



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Originally posted by hjerrod
i'm no expert, but this guy claims his buddy is running 12.9 in an auto with a stillen supercharger, and it's not adjusted for altitude or whatever. ? it's going to take a heck of a lot more than that supercharger to get 12.9. motor trend tested the smx maxima with the stillen supercharger at 14.4. I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.
No, you're right. A guy here is chicago (SteveChicagoSC) is running a S/C auto max with LOTS of stuff including a intercooler, and his best quarter is around 13.4 I believe. And we're only at 700 ft above SL, Colorado is much higher....depending on where you are.
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Re: G-tech

Originally posted by SuDZ
I think I might pick up a g-tech since going to the track is not always easy to get around to. Then that way there I can practive before finding out there I am not ready to go at it yet. Anyone here use one much?

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i have had my gtech since january. i have used it quite a bit on my other car, mx6, but not much on the max. i did do one 0-60 run on the max, but that's it. it gave it 7.82 or something like that. stock 98se auto. 85 degrees, kinda humid. they are pretty sweet and supposedly very accurate. also a good way to tell what your car is capable of since the gtech senses when you start and times from there instead of you having to time the tree light.
 
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Yeah, but learning to time the lights is half the fun, and most of the challenge.

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Originally posted by hjerrod


i have had my gtech since january. i have used it quite a bit on my other car, mx6, but not much on the max. i did do one 0-60 run on the max, but that's it. it gave it 7.82 or something like that. stock 98se auto. 85 degrees, kinda humid. they are pretty sweet and supposedly very accurate. also a good way to tell what your car is capable of since the gtech senses when you start and times from there instead of you having to time the tree light.
 
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Originally posted by mzmtg
Corrected times don't mean a thing. All that matters is what you actually ran. That falls into the "I would have beat him if I had a 5 speed" street racing excuse. Post what you actually ran and mention the altitude, but don't go bragging about corrected times.
Corrected times do mean something, especially if it is truely accurate. It is also different from people saying they would have won with a 5 speed, to win with a 5 speed you need to know how to shift - to correct you 1/4 mile time you only need the altitude, humidity, barometric preasure and air temp. None of that is influenced by a driver. My real time was a 16.5 BUT it was 85 degrees, 92% humidity, 29.92 barometric preasure, and I run at aprox. 4900 feet. Thus my corrected time is a true time. You are really going to get mad at me once I correct my time to sea level with perfect conditions after my SC is installed. My friend just put his on and he ran a 13.8 with an auto.

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Originally posted by 1/3There2/3ToGo


Corrected times do mean something, especially if it is truely accurate. It is also different from people saying they would have won with a 5 speed, to win with a 5 speed you need to know how to shift - to correct you 1/4 mile time you only need the altitude, humidity, barometric preasure and air temp. None of that is influenced by a driver. My real time was a 16.5 BUT it was 85 degrees, 92% humidity, 29.92 barometric preasure, and I run at aprox. 4900 feet. Thus my corrected time is a true time. You are really going to get mad at me once I correct my time to sea level with perfect conditions after my SC is installed. My friend just put his on and he ran a 13.8 with an auto.

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That's my point, a corrected time is not truely accurate. I 110% guarantee that if you came down here and ran at MMP, where the elevation is a negligible 170 feet, you would NOT run in the the 14's.
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That's my point, a corrected time is not truely accurate. I 110% guarantee that if you came down here and ran at MMP, where the elevation is a negligible 170 feet, you would NOT run in the the 14's.
not to put anybody down... but it's amazing how people with corrected times pull off numbers that people with equal mods at sea level don't even get close to.
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not to put anybody down... but it's amazing how people with corrected times pull off numbers that people with equal mods at sea level don't even get close to.

Exactly, my best of 16.08 corrects to 16.03...there's no way I could run that...

Damn thin air here in AL.
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I was thinking that too...

Originally posted by hjerrod
i'm no expert, but this guy claims his buddy is running 12.9 in an auto with a stillen supercharger, and it's not adjusted for altitude or whatever. ? it's going to take a heck of a lot more than that supercharger to get 12.9. motor trend tested the smx maxima with the stillen supercharger at 14.4. I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.

Let's see. If someone had a 1/4 ET of 12.9 and assuming a vehicle weight of 3000-3100 lbs, the car would need approximately 275-285 (road) HP. Is this possible? A stock Max is what? mid 100s and a supercharger is 80 HP I believe. So now you are in the low/mid 200s. Are there other bolt-ons and/or weight shavings that can bring a Max into the high 200s?
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Let's see. If someone had a 1/4 ET of 12.9 and assuming a vehicle weight of 3000-3100 lbs, the car would need approximately 275-285 (road) HP. Is this possible? A stock Max is what? mid 100s and a supercharger is 80 HP I believe. So now you are in the low/mid 200s. Are there other bolt-ons and/or weight shavings that can bring a Max into the high 200s?
I'm not sure but I'm reading the sept 01 edition of car and driver and they clocked a 2001 porsche 911 turbo, 415hp crank at 12.9@112, a corvette Z06 at 12.7@114. max 190hp, i believe in reading motor trends test of the smx maxima with the stillen s/c that it brought it up to approx. 285hp with maybe some other small mods. this s/c max is now still 130hp shy of the 911 turbo. I don't see how a max can run 12.9 period. maybe NOS i don't know. anyways..
 
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I'm not sure but I'm reading the sept 01 edition of car and driver and they clocked a 2001 porsche 911 turbo, 415hp crank at 12.9@112, a corvette Z06 at 12.7@114. max 190hp, i believe in reading motor trends test of the smx maxima with the stillen s/c that it brought it up to approx. 285hp with maybe some other small mods. this s/c max is now still 130hp shy of the 911 turbo. I don't see how a max can run 12.9 period. maybe NOS i don't know. anyways..

hmm... Actually, there are some people on this board who have hit high 12's or something like 12.6 i think???? *Cough* Phil96SE *cough*..... Even an auto max can hit 12's and has hit 12's.... *cough* *cough* Don in Texas *cough* ........ahhhh damn allergies!!
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Let's see. If someone had a 1/4 ET of 12.9 and assuming a vehicle weight of 3000-3100 lbs, the car would need approximately 275-285 (road) HP. Is this possible? A stock Max is what? mid 100s and a supercharger is 80 HP I believe. So now you are in the low/mid 200s. Are there other bolt-ons and/or weight shavings that can bring a Max into the high 200s?
First off, here is a link to the site I used http://gafba.com/calculators/et1.asp - the numbers I gave you for barometric preasure and humidity are from memory but I know the temp and altitude are correct.

A guy in my Maxima club has just put on his SC. He dyno'd at 265 hp to the front wheels. He has other mods but Im not sure how extensive they are. I think it is just intake and exhaust work. So, yes, a Max can be brought into the high 200's(he is running 6 pounds of boost and the SC can take up to 12 I believe). I truely dont care if my time makes some of you mad or not, that is what it "should" run under optimum conditions at sea level so that is why it is in my sig.

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