Transmission Question- Is the VLSD in the I30t known as LOCKING or NON-Locking?
I posted this in the general forum as well, but I am posting here because I know that some people don't visit both forums.
I am wondering if the VLSD tranny in the I30 is called Locking or non-locking? Intuitively I assumed it would be known as a locking diff, but I am being told that it is actually known as the NON-locking differential. If anyone can give me a definitive answer to this, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to end up buying the same transmission as I already own. I know its the tranny from the I30t that I need, but most of the car parts searches don't differentiate between I30 and I30t (touring model).
I am wondering if the VLSD tranny in the I30 is called Locking or non-locking? Intuitively I assumed it would be known as a locking diff, but I am being told that it is actually known as the NON-locking differential. If anyone can give me a definitive answer to this, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to end up buying the same transmission as I already own. I know its the tranny from the I30t that I need, but most of the car parts searches don't differentiate between I30 and I30t (touring model).
Originally posted by Nealoc187
I posted this in the general forum as well, but I am posting here because I know that some people don't visit both forums.
I am wondering if the VLSD tranny in the I30 is called Locking or non-locking? Intuitively I assumed it would be known as a locking diff, but I am being told that it is actually known as the NON-locking differential. If anyone can give me a definitive answer to this, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to end up buying the same transmission as I already own. I know its the tranny from the I30t that I need, but most of the car parts searches don't differentiate between I30 and I30t (touring model).
I posted this in the general forum as well, but I am posting here because I know that some people don't visit both forums.
I am wondering if the VLSD tranny in the I30 is called Locking or non-locking? Intuitively I assumed it would be known as a locking diff, but I am being told that it is actually known as the NON-locking differential. If anyone can give me a definitive answer to this, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to end up buying the same transmission as I already own. I know its the tranny from the I30t that I need, but most of the car parts searches don't differentiate between I30 and I30t (touring model).
Originally posted by Nealoc187
I posted this in the general forum as well, but I am posting here because I know that some people don't visit both forums.
I am wondering if the VLSD tranny in the I30 is called Locking or non-locking? Intuitively I assumed it would be known as a locking diff, but I am being told that it is actually known as the NON-locking differential. If anyone can give me a definitive answer to this, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to end up buying the same transmission as I already own. I know its the tranny from the I30t that I need, but most of the car parts searches don't differentiate between I30 and I30t (touring model).
I posted this in the general forum as well, but I am posting here because I know that some people don't visit both forums.
I am wondering if the VLSD tranny in the I30 is called Locking or non-locking? Intuitively I assumed it would be known as a locking diff, but I am being told that it is actually known as the NON-locking differential. If anyone can give me a definitive answer to this, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to end up buying the same transmission as I already own. I know its the tranny from the I30t that I need, but most of the car parts searches don't differentiate between I30 and I30t (touring model).
OK, that raises another question in my mind then. When I do a search for an I30 transmission on www.car-part.com it asks me if I want to search for a locking diff or non-locking diff. Your answer makes me think that since the VLSD is NON-locking, that the non VLSD tranny would therefor be the locking version. However isn't a locking diff like a Detroit Locker, which is a form of limited slip differential? Let me know if im way off base here.
Medicsonic pointed that website out to me a little bit ago. I read the entire article, and I got the impression that the VLSD is non-locking, but that leaves me wondering what the heck is the locking diff I mentioned above? Wouldn't the normal maxima tranny just be an open diff? I ask these questions here because the shop I called couldn't decide amongst themselves if the VLSD tranny was locking or non.
Good point MADMAX, I hadn't thought of that. So what do you suppose www.car-part.com means when they ask to specify locking or non-locking diff? They only do it for certain cars, like the I30, in which some had limited slip and some didn't. Do you think that they are just using the term "locking diff" too loosely, and really mean limited slip diff? That's what I'm thinking, but I'd like some other opinions.
YEESH!
1) No maxima or FWD automobiles feature "locking differentials"
2) The only non-open differentials offered in the Maxima was the viscous coupling limit slip differential like the one in the I30T, canada 4-gen+ maximas, 2002+ maxima?
3) So given the above and car-parts.com inability to get their terms correct, you can probably safely assume when they refer to a locking diff, they mean LSD.
Live long and prosper....IVI
1) No maxima or FWD automobiles feature "locking differentials"
2) The only non-open differentials offered in the Maxima was the viscous coupling limit slip differential like the one in the I30T, canada 4-gen+ maximas, 2002+ maxima?
3) So given the above and car-parts.com inability to get their terms correct, you can probably safely assume when they refer to a locking diff, they mean LSD.
Live long and prosper....IVI
Originally posted by Nealoc187
... When I do a search for an I30 transmission on www.car-part.com it asks me if I want to search for a locking diff or non-locking diff. ...
... When I do a search for an I30 transmission on www.car-part.com it asks me if I want to search for a locking diff or non-locking diff. ...
I think Car-Part.Com is being imprecise in their language. They intend to ask whether you want a limited-slip or a plain-vanilla open differential. No stock 4Gen Maxima (or Infiniti) has a true locking differential.
Originally posted by Nealoc187
... However isn't a locking diff like a Detroit Locker, which is a form of limited slip differential? Let me know if im way off base here.
... However isn't a locking diff like a Detroit Locker, which is a form of limited slip differential? Let me know if im way off base here.
A Limited Slip Differential reduces the amount of slippage but does not completely eliminate it. A Locking Differential (when engaged) reduces the slippage to zero.
A locker is suitable for the straight-line-only drag racer or the serious off-road enthusiast. A VLSD is a good choice for most street vehicles.
Go to http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/detroit/ to read about the Detroit Locker.
If all I30 5-speeds were touring models, and all had the VLSD, then my question is moot. Thanks to all who responded. I just wanted opinions on the terminology that was being used by various parts finding websites.
That said, this is a great resource and there's a ton of good info. I've learned a lot here reading about these performance four doors, and I love driving my SE! Still, I maintain that the 15 post rule is a pretentious one, and pretty much BS.... IMHO.
Thank you for your replies to my question!
Walt
Sorry you think it's a pretentious BS rule, but it exists to eliminate **** spammers and other unsavory types.
Anyways, as has been stated, only the driver's side axle needs to be changed. Some people say that they had to change the passenger side too but I have no explanation for that, because I have built about a million of these transmissions and done multiple transmission swaps in my own car from open to VLSD and back again and I never had to do a thing with the passenger side axle. They ARE the same for open diff and VLSD.
BTW it's ironic this thread was bumped, given my experience with working on this transmission and building them in my sleep nowadays, and the fact that I'm a moderator now and can lock my own thread lol. Oh, how 7 years can change things.
Anyways, as has been stated, only the driver's side axle needs to be changed. Some people say that they had to change the passenger side too but I have no explanation for that, because I have built about a million of these transmissions and done multiple transmission swaps in my own car from open to VLSD and back again and I never had to do a thing with the passenger side axle. They ARE the same for open diff and VLSD.
BTW it's ironic this thread was bumped, given my experience with working on this transmission and building them in my sleep nowadays, and the fact that I'm a moderator now and can lock my own thread lol. Oh, how 7 years can change things.
Last edited by Nealoc187; Nov 13, 2008 at 11:38 PM.
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