I am around the time that I am going to change the trasnny fluid in my Max. Has anyone used Redline Tranny Fluid? If so waht are the real differences if any? Is it worth the cost or should I just use regular tranny fluid. I know that in my 5 speed it is supposed to have more of an effect than an Auto but wanted to see if anyone had real experience with it.

Thanks
SuDZ

 

Anyone out there use this stuff before?

SuDZ

 

Get 5 quarts, of which you will use 4.5. You will love it,and your Max will love you.

DW

 

What kind of differences did you notice?

SuDZ

 

Yes, what is the real difference? Mileage? Performance? Smell pretty?
Thanks

 

Performance?? yes. You can shift alot faster, especially in the cold, so you spend less time between gears.

Mileage?? Probably won't notice a change there at all. Shouldn't really.

Smell and Prettiness?? Does it matter?? It's sealed inside your tranny. Once you install it, you never see it again . . . .untill the next time. That next time you don't really need either because you can leave it in there forever. Your tranny with MT-90 will outlast the rest of your car. Because it's synthetic, and the stock dino tranny fluid will already last a very long time in your car (the Nissan service manual never says to change the stock dinao based fluid, just check it and top off), the synthetic will last even longer.

Oh, and if you plan on doing it yourself, you will need a half inch ratchet. Easy job. Just like and oil change. Well, it is an oil change, sort of, but like yes, really

DW

 

I thought it said to change it at like 30K or something close to that. Are you sure it is never?

SuDZ

 

Yup. 30K is probably for autos. The fluid in an auto works much harder than in a manual tranny.

DW

 

is the 90 in MT-90 the weight you recommend we buy for the tranny fluid. "weight" is analagous to the "5" 5w-30 or the "10" in 10w-30.

muchas gracias amigo.

 

Nuther big vote Yes for Redline. If you've got the stock shifter then the MT90 will make it feel like slicing through butter (Cheston's term I think). With the Stillen SS mine is notchy but drivable (w/o the fluid probably wouldn't be possible)

Biggest benefit is downshifting. 2nd to 1st for instance no longer has a jerk when coming up to stops.

 

Nissan says:
If towing a trailer, using a camper or a car-top carrier, or driving on rough or muddy roads, change (not just inspect) transmission oil every 30K miles or 24 months.

This applies to both automatic and 5-speed transmissions. Aside from this Severe Service recommendation, Nissan does not require any change of transmission lubricant. However, many owners like to perform this service with the 60K maintenance procedure. It seems like cheap insurance.

 

Actually this is what I am looking at. I am doing my 60K stuff now.

SuDZ

 

Maybe turn it into a job for the weekend. That and maybe spark plugs.

SuDZ

 

Another big vote for the benefits of Redline tranny fluid. I don't know about MT-90, but I have used MTL in my '81zx for the past 4 years. MUCH smoother shifting, especially when the tranny is cold. It does make downshifting somewhat smoother as well. I am changing the ATF in my '90 Max this weekend and plan on using Redline. Redline really makes a good product.

Mike

 

None of my local autoparts stores or speed shops carry Redline. Besides carparts.com, is there another online source for the Redline transmission fluid?

Thanks,
TOM

 

I too am looking for Redline, but I would like to purchase it locally--does anyone know if automotive chains (trak auto, pep boys, autozone,etc.) carry Redline products??

Tom--I found a site that lists redline products:

homepages.waymark.net/parts

i think they are located in texas.

 

Don't know. Try a search. I always get mine locally - even in Bum-F*** southwest VA. Good luck.

 

here's another web addy

www.ogracing.com

this address is a bit cheaper than the former address.

 

Here;

http://redlineoil.com/dealers.htm

regards,

DW

 

I was lucky enough to have one about ten minutes from where I work. For whatever reason i have found out that basicly they are not sold at chains. I would get the MT-90. I sent a email to redline customer support people asking what they recommended for my 98 5 speed.

SuDZ

 

thanks guys!

anyone think this product is any better than your typical fuel injector cleaner??

 

Maybe a new thread should be started on this subject, but from some credible reports I have read I won't use any additives, especially fuel. Here is why - 1. Efects of cleaners an such are marginal at best and have not really shown to be effective in the long run. 2. They dillute the gas. This means less combustion and hence less power. I am ammazed when people tell me they only run 92+ octane in their vehicle because it is "the best". I ask if they had pinging (detonation) using a lower grade and they would say no or what do you mean. I then go through the explanation that the higher the octane rating they use, the less power they are getting from the fuel. Same/similar story with fuel additives. 3. Cost - think about it. Over the life of your injectors how much money would you spend on additives. Even if the additive were to double the life of your injectors, it's still better, cost wise, to simple replace the injectors.

I used to use fuel system cleaner religously in my Z. Every fill-up (with Shell/Exxon/Texaco) I put in cleaner. The injectors still failed (leaks etc) at about 120K. I haven't use any since and have had no fuel related problems whatsoever (now at 160K).

Use a quality reputable gas brand and your injectors will be fine.

Mike

 

91 + octane is "the best". Because our engine's{altleast VQ's} are run at a high compression, thus lower octane fuel will not properly detonant and as a result our ECM has to adjust by retarding the timing. This in turn gives worse gas mileage and less HP. So yes, 91+ octane offers our engines the best performance.

 

I picked some up today on my lunch break. I think I will try installing it this weekend and see for myself waht type of changes it feels like. Hopefully for the 9 bucks a bottle there will be some.

SuDZ

 

what tool are you going to use to remove the existing tranny fluid. i've read that you might need a pump of some kind..

 

Nah. He has a 5 speed. Just take out the drain bolt, let the fluid drain out completely, put the bolt back on, fill 'er up with new tranny fluid. Done. (simplified description)

 

You need 1 special tool, a half inch ratchet. The fill bolt needs that one.

DW

 

What is the difference as far as doing this in a 5 speed as would be an Auto? What I mean is the question was asked about having to use a pump. Is that neccesary in an Auto? I know it is not in a 5 speed. Just curious.

SuDZ

 

This place has it for the lowest that I have ever seen! ONLY $7.95 and free shipping over $100

http://www.synlubes.com/


-dashingMax

 

thanks. i have a 5 spd so i guess i should be ok..

 

. Its the last one on the page

W-MT90-Red Line 75W90 Manual Transmission Lubricant.. Is that it?

 

In an auto, the fluid is more embedded in the tranny, its not a simple drain and fill. Also, you have to force the old fluid out in an auto, hence the need for a pump and such.

By the way, I checked your sig, pretty cool setup. I would highly recommend you add the RSB to your future mods list. In fact, do that next!

DW

 

Actually I think that may be in the works also. But before ad dto the list I want to take some stuff off. Hopefully not much later than this weekend I can get rid of Redline Tranny Fluid - Since I picked it up today and it is in my trunk, and Tires. I think I can get those Saturday. Which means then I will erase them and look for what is next or at least get a few things bumped up. So the RSB is that good huh?

SuDZ

 

Yes...

 

Remember how your car felt better with the FSTB?? Well, with an RSB, you'll feel it even more.

When will you feel it?? You know those high speed bends, those long curves? With the stock rear suspension, you don't feel as confident taking them at speed. With the RSB, you can take that corner real hard now!

DW

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwapenyi
[B]In an auto, the fluid is more embedded in the tranny, its not a simple drain and fill. Also, you have to force the old fluid out in an auto, hence the need for a pump and such.

I have been preparing to change the ATF in my '90 for a few weeks now, at least the Redline has been sitting in the garage that long. My dilemma was I want to drain the whole tranny - Torque Converter included. I was told the only way to do this was go to a garage that can do a complete fluids excange. This would cost ~$75 plus 4 or so extra quarts of ATF (at $9 per). Do you have any suggestions on draining out all of the old fluid. I just can't stand the thought of mixing the Redline with the cruddy old DINO fluid. Thanks.

Mike Overton

 

I'm afraid that "do a complete fluids excange" is the only way to do it in an auto.

DW


[QUOTE]Originally posted by 4togrfr
[B]

 

I read somewhere that this procedure should work to completely drain and fill with new ATF.

1. Drain old ATF from drain bolt (about 4 quarts)
2. Fill new ATF from stick (about 4 quarts)
3. Disconnect return line to ATF pan from radiator.
4. Start engine and catch old ATF from return line (no more than 4 qts)
5. Connect return line (prior to refilling)to prevent spilage while refilling
6. Fill new ATF (about 4 quarts)
7. Disconnect return line to ATF pan from radiator.
8. Start engine and catch old ATF from return line (no more than 4 qts)
9. Connect return line (prior to refilling)to prevent spilage while refilling
10. Fill new ATF (about 4 quarts)
11. Disconnect return line to ATF pan from radiator.
12. Start engine and catch old ATF from return line (no more than 4 qts)
13. Connect return line (prior to refilling)to prevent spilage while refilling
14. Fill new ATF (about 3 quarts)
15. Check level and top as necessary

Thoretically this would remove all ATF and replace with new ATF. Downside, you waste some ATF. Upside, you don't let the grease monkey boys at Jiffy Lube touch your car.

What do you think about this method? Thanks.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 4togrfr
[B]

 

OMG!! i just did this lsat week and it KICKS A$$!!!! especially in the snowy weather i've had in the past couple days. No more hard times getting the car into gear. you start the car up and the shifter feels like its been warmed up the entire time. RIGHT WHEN YOU START THE CAR! its my favorite mod (only other mods i have are my harness pads and my bulbs that keep burning out ) (i've been waiting for someone to ask about redline so i could share my joy ) and it cost me $37.something i belive after the dealer code

 

i have redline mt-90 in my 5sp. smoother shifts in ALL situations.