Nismo87SE

This is a video of a race between a WRX, Dakota RT and an automagic 4th gen with I/E (I think a Y pipe too). I think it did alright considering what he was running , but better luck next time hehe. http://63.98.144.165/Movies/RacingVids/WRXvsRTvsMAX.WMV

Slim

Hey man those cars are fast. I have a good amount done to my car and my friend with a WRX beat me. It was pretty close, but he was pulling. The road we raced on is a little longer than 1/4 (between lights) and at the end I was at his back fender. He's stock now but will probably be getting a boost controller soon, as well as a chip. When that happens I'll never catch up! I hope to race him again before he mods it to get a better idea...

mtrai760

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I wouldn't really call that getting wasted, especially if he was an auto... But I did see a WRX at the track with nothing but a boost controller running 13's...

abnorm

Lets not forget that WRX's engine is not nearly as good as the VQ. Any engine can be turbocharged.

Jeff92se

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What the hell are you talking about? What technical aspects of the Subaru 2.0 turbo makes it less "good" than the VQ engine?

RICOiz704

Uh Oh u in trouble now LOL

Nismo87SE

Jeff I was thinking the exact samething. I see flames coming .

abnorm

shhhhhhhhhhh

SuDZ

RUN!!

They are coming for you

SuDZ

Cumalot

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Jeff92se

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Let's not forget I have no idea how engines are built, I just want to make off the wall statments that make no sense.

1/3There2/3ToGo

Nice rims, are those Konig Tantrums?

Kirk

Black VQ

To really give a WRX a run for it's money. Really. Check out the new Car and Driver and the current SCC. The CAr and Driver tested the WRX against an S4 and a 330xi. Unfair, right? Not! The WRX ran a blistering 5.4 secs from 0-60mph, even faster than the S4!!
And in SCC, WRXs have responded pretty well to mods. A couple of the tuner cars they tested would give 'Vette owners something to worry about(ex: 0-60 in 4.6 secs!).

1/3There2/3ToGo

Don in Texas' maxima that ran a 12.2 is an automagic. I dont understand why there is such tension between the 5-speed guys and the auto's. True, until forced induction or NO2 is used the 5-speed will win, but after that it shifts to the automagic's side.

Kirk

BriGuyMax

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I haven't lost to a WRX yet.....and I haven't even had to use NOS. Granted they were all highway runs, no stoplight runs...I would probably get beat without the NOS in the stoplight runs

buss95max

i thought he ran a 12.8..

anyway i went 2 the track last sunday..and a WRX was running 15.6...

1/3There2/3ToGo

Maybe it was a 12.8...cant remember...but D@mn fast.

Kirk

Synki

Just remember this, if you race a WRX from a stop, you are dusted.

The WRX is mostly fast b/c of its launch (& turbo). They are the only 4 cyl cars that i know that can pull 1.9-2.0 60 foots. (Hey, I was lurkering their board!). If you notice, their times are really fast but their mph is slow for their times. Thus meaning they are great for acceleration other then that, they start to lag.

If you race a WRX, dont race from a stop, race them from a rolling start. Pref kinda like doing a 60mph pull. I have read (from teh board) that they just dont pull as hard after 4500rpms. This is where we gain.

Cumalot

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Thanks and yes, they're Tantrums.

1/3There2/3ToGo

Thought so...damn nice wheels. How much more do the 18's weigh? For the tantrums that is.

Kirk

Cumalot

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They're 17s. The rims themselves don't weigh that much, about 23lbs each. However, the tires that I got, Dunlop SP 9000 are heavy, total weight of rims and tires are about 47lbs. Yikes!

Shadow

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47lbs isn't that bad, my old Borbet Type M's were 54lbs w/ tires in 17".

Slim

That's way the turbo is setup from the factory, rolls off the boost after that (maybe a little higher). Put a boost controller in there and keep it going to redline and watch the times drop. That's why the guy mtrai760 saw at the track ran 13's. I believe they have guys in the high 12's already...

La Jolla Max

Ummm...do your homework. The EJ20 is prepped for turbocharging. A strengthened bottom end, forged pistons with oil-spraying cooling jets, and a lower compression ratio. A VQ running a WRX's boost would blow.

La Jolla Max

I think good straight-line acceleration on the WRX's part is just icing on the cake. Let's face it, they'll run circles around a Maxima. SCC tested a WRX with the M2 suspension package and it ran a 73.6mph on the skidpad. That's better than an NSX. Better than a F355. Better than a Viper!!

They're built for handling and kicking **** on an autocross--or rallycross. Anyone who buys a WRX just for drag racing should be smacked upside the head.

BriGuyMax

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Kramer rules!!!

1/3There2/3ToGo

And smacked HARD

Kirk

mtrai760

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He recently ran a 12.2@108mph... Yes, D A M N fast!

1/3There2/3ToGo

I thought I was right...thanks for the clarification.

Kirk

SLC I30t

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Talking about the skid pad.... you have a lot more handling with AWD than a rear wheel drive car or even a fron wheel drive car. the viper, is notorious for oversterring? Front engine rear drive, no weight in the back.... ITS A DRAGSTER, most american muscle isn't known for its handling. I hate reading aobut car comparisons, they rarely compare equal cars, most are made to boast a certain car.

Black VQ

I have an auto, by the way.lol I'm just saying that No one should really expect a normal automagic Maxima to stand a chance in a drag race against a WRX. Don's Max is a very, very special exception. This Max that was mentioned in the video only had a y-pipe and maybe a couple other mods.

mtrai760

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For about a $1000, you could turn your automagic into a serious launching machine... VB mod and a high stall torque converter go a long way! Ive only got a Y-pipe and a couple other mods.... I fear no WRX, though I know plenty are probably out there that can whoop on me...

1/3There2/3ToGo

Where can you get a high stall torque converter for $550? If you can get that price I'll take 10! Don's VB mod costs $450. Out of the $1000 you say it would cost that leaves $550 for the torque converter. Last I saw those babies were like $700-$900. Arent those some of the mods every auto should have?

Kirk

mtrai760

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Sorry, I kinda rounded the numbers off a little, I shoulda said about $1200 I guess, $450 for the VB and about $650-700 for the tq converter, Mods every auto should have...

1/3There2/3ToGo

These mods are like a 5-speed'er upgrading thier clutch and flywheel...must have items if you want to race
When I get my SC installed this will be the wrx---><---this will be me.

Kirk

Black VQ

With all the wheelspin you'll have, that smilie image will be reversed. You don't have the 'beauty of all-wheel drive,' remember? An SC'd auto(not with increased boost) will probably run 6s, as far as 0-60 times are concerned. And we know WRXs are in the 5s. Even with an ultra-clean launch you wouldn't be able to keep up, if the WRX driver has some decent skill. An auto will help, since you won't mess up any shifts, but it doesn't help enough.

SLC I30t

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I think that Black VQ has a point with the AWD Subaru, but I think that the Torque and Power of the S/C VQ will be able to pull forward in less than a 1/4. I've seen some really quick Maxima S/C's with some sweet times.

1/3There2/3ToGo

I agree, I will win in the 1/4 but lose the launch. You think I'll only be in the 6's?! Im guessing 5.8-6.0 but what do I know...My friend with almost the same set up as me(he doesnt have a y-pipe nor RT cat) raced a WRX with his SC maxima and won. He also doesnt have Dons VB mod. I really dont think the WRX is that awesome of a car stock, after market moded hell yes, but we all know that most of the drivers will not touch them. The enthusiasts that buy them will be obvious and the trust fund babies around my campus with them will get their @ss slapped when they race me. I'll let you know how the races go when I get SC'd.

Kirk

La Jolla Max

Heh. You can forget about spanking even a lightly modded WRX though. With simple boltons they'll run mid 13's, and with an upgraded turbo, full exhaust, boost control and a better IC, they can run as quick as mid to high 12's.

1/3There2/3ToGo

True, but when I beat the trust fund babies around here and win $$$ they will sell it off and buy a porche. Its just fun to make them buy new cars.

Kirk