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Old Oct 1, 2001 | 05:10 PM
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Cattman Y-Pipe Problems??

I have a 97 Maxima SE and am interested in the Cattman Y-pipe, but I have heard that the Y-pipe for the 4th Gen's by Cattman have a few problems. Two things that I heard was that the unit doesn't have a welded on bracket, so once you screw in the tops of the "Y" and the cat to tye pipe, there's nothing else to hold up the pipe, and this causes lateral jiggling and the pipe will hit the undercarriage of the car. Also, I read that the 0-2 sensor plugs are really poorly placed and they will hit other parts of the car from the jiggling of the Y-pipe. Can anybody confirm or deny this info at all??? I'm itching to buy a Y-pipe, and I finally have the $$$!
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I have a 97 Maxima SE and am interested in the Cattman Y-pipe, but I have heard that the Y-pipe for the 4th Gen's by Cattman have a few problems. Two things that I heard was that the unit doesn't have a welded on bracket, so once you screw in the tops of the "Y" and the cat to tye pipe, there's nothing else to hold up the pipe, and this causes lateral jiggling and the pipe will hit the undercarriage of the car. Also, I read that the 0-2 sensor plugs are really poorly placed and they will hit other parts of the car from the jiggling of the Y-pipe. Can anybody confirm or deny this info at all??? I'm itching to buy a Y-pipe, and I finally have the $$$!
Well I know that a friend of mine had to send his back twice because it didn't fit. the mounting brackets were off rotational wise. But he did tell me Brian was real cool with it. So I assume that he really is into customer service.
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 06:20 PM
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mine is great...no clunking or abnormal sounds whatsoever. The O2 sensor holes are placed better in my opinion than the stock pipe..they are VERY easy to get to. There doesn't need to be a braket becuase the cattman y is 8lbs vs. the 23 lb. stock pipe. Anyone who is experiencing clunking probably has an engine mount or 2 that is shot allowing A LOT of engine and exhaust system movement and they blame it on the y-pipe.
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 06:27 PM
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Really....Hmm. Did it all get worked out?
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 07:09 PM
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Yeah I he likes it now that its in, but he was pretty stressed over it. Its supposed to be better than the Stillen Y pipe. Have you looked into the Budget? Or is this the budget? I'm going to go with Catman.
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 07:19 PM
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No, I haven't looked into the budget, I want to make sure I get a high quality piece of equipment that will last and that is not too loud. I know the Cattman is supposed to be made of high quality metal, I just want to make sure I won't have any periferal problems such as the knocking into the undercarriage or the o2 sensors.
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 07:23 PM
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IMO a pipe is a pipe...

..is a pipe is a pipe. Stainless steel is stainless steel. If the diameter is the same, then the pipe is extremely similar to any pipe in the same diameter.

I'm also making myself feel better about buyin a budget Y today. Hopefully when I install it I will really feel good. And you all will know about it.
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 07:25 PM
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I was told that the Cattman has a quieter flex than the rest. It wont sound so...civicish
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 07:27 PM
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Re: Cattman Y-Pipe Problems??

Originally posted by BlackMaxAaron
I have a 97 Maxima SE and am interested in the Cattman Y-pipe, but I have heard that the Y-pipe for the 4th Gen's by Cattman have a few problems. Two things that I heard was that the unit doesn't have a welded on bracket, so once you screw in the tops of the "Y" and the cat to tye pipe, there's nothing else to hold up the pipe, and this causes lateral jiggling and the pipe will hit the undercarriage of the car. Also, I read that the 0-2 sensor plugs are really poorly placed and they will hit other parts of the car from the jiggling of the Y-pipe. Can anybody confirm or deny this info at all??? I'm itching to buy a Y-pipe, and I finally have the $$$!
I went Stillen. It fits like a glove! Sounds great!
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 07:34 PM
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I went Stillen. It fits like a glove! Sounds great!
So you like the sound of the Stillen, huh? Do you have an otherwise stock exhaust? Just curious...I don't mind some noise, I just don't want it obnoxiously loud or anything...I don't think I could handle it all the time.
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 07:47 PM
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my friend has intake y pipe and apexi cat back.
my car has intake only, and in just roar they are about the same. but his has tone with it... sounds as loud just deeper. so if you can live with your intake, you'll be able to live with the rest. how often do you drive with no music play'n even low. his car is just as quiet on cruis'n speeds as mine. But it lets you know when he opens it up...
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by SLC I30t
my friend has intake y pipe and apexi cat back.
my car has intake only, and in just roar they are about the same. but his has tone with it... sounds as loud just deeper.
Yeah, I absolutely love the growl of the intake at WOT, lets people know you're not messin around.
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sounds like your sold on the idea then... tell me.. how hard was it to do your pulleys? what kind of difference did it make?
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ROOOOOOAAAAAARRRRR!!!!

Originally posted by BlackMaxAaron


Yeah, I absolutely love the growl of the intake at WOT, lets people know you're not messin around.

ROAR!ROAR ROAR!
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by SLC I30t
sounds like your sold on the idea then... tell me.. how hard was it to do your pulleys? what kind of difference did it make?
I had read some interesting info on the pulley about possible ramifications if it is done wrong, and being that I'm not SuperMechanic or anything, I had someone install it for me. Plus, I don't have access to the tools I need to do the quality of work I would want done on my car. But the difference in the pulley was noticable...I would definitely recommend it. Unlike exhause mods (excluding the Y-pipe!!) this mod adds just as much if not more torque as horsepower. I'd say it was worth my money.
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Oh hel1 yeah...like in that vid with brianv and the civic... mmmm the sweet sound..
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 08:17 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Cattman Y-Pipe Problems??

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So you like the sound of the Stillen, huh? Do you have an otherwise stock exhaust? Just curious...I don't mind some noise, I just don't want it obnoxiously loud or anything...I don't think I could handle it all the time.
Stillen = Loud and beautifuly LOW. I have intake and full exhaust and holy $hit is it awesome! Sounds lower and louder than most rustang GT's do.

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Old Oct 1, 2001 | 08:22 PM
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Big Bucks?
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 08:24 PM
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Big Bucks?
Not too bad...CAI, Stillen Y, RT cat, Custom DUAL 3" cat-back...freaking awesome and worth every cent

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Old Oct 1, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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no offense I was asking about the pulleys,
Kirk I'm a student... I'm looking for cheap "aurora colorado style" thrills. he he he. some colfax ave cheap thrills... j/k


but yeah how much does it cost to do the pulleys?
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by SLC I30t
no offense I was asking about the pulleys,
Kirk I'm a student... I'm looking for cheap "aurora colorado style" thrills. he he he. some colfax ave cheap thrills... j/k


but yeah how much does it cost to do the pulleys?
Well, if you come to Aurora CO I'll show you where to look for the "cheap thrills"

Kirk

P.S. How'd you know about Colfax?
Old Oct 1, 2001 | 10:28 PM
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[i]but yeah how much does it cost to do the pulleys? [/B]
The pulley cost about 300 and change for the part and total labor for the install. Don't know if you can afford that or not...but that's about how much it cost.
Old Oct 2, 2001 | 12:10 AM
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Hey Aaron, your local (washington) right? I have the Cattman SS y-pipe, and I love it. I'll be going up to seattle soon again, we should hook up and you can drive my car to see the differences.

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Old Oct 2, 2001 | 03:56 AM
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I loved my Cattmann, had 0 problems with it.
Old Oct 2, 2001 | 05:08 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Cattman Y-Pipe Problems??

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So you like the sound of the Stillen, huh? Do you have an otherwise stock exhaust? Just curious...I don't mind some noise, I just don't want it obnoxiously loud or anything...I don't think I could handle it all the time.
I had the stilen b& muffler. They sound nice and very harmonic with a pop chgr. The added Y-pipe and rt cat is cosiderably louder. I don't think the rt adds noise.
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I had the stilen b& muffler. They sound nice and very harmonic with a pop chgr. The added Y-pipe and rt cat is cosiderably louder. I don't think the rt adds noise.
The RT cat does increase volume. It reduces the restriction on the exhaust = more noise.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cattman Y-Pipe Problems??

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The RT cat does increase volume. It reduces the restriction on the exhaust = more noise.

Kirk
Actually the R/T cat has been know to quiet down the max's exhaust system....especially the drone with most cat-backs.
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Actually the R/T cat has been know to quiet down the max's exhaust system....especially the drone with most cat-backs.
Didnt do that for me. I had to put in a 3" "Turbo Tube" to quiet my cat-back down.

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Re: Re: Re: Cattman Y-Pipe Problems??

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So you like the sound of the Stillen, huh? Do you have an otherwise stock exhaust? Just curious...I don't mind some noise, I just don't want it obnoxiously loud or anything...I don't think I could handle it all the time.
my ypipe barely makes noise at all! just a slight hiss at part or wide throttle. save your money and buy a budget 304SS pipe for $195 shipped to your door in a week. it takes nearly a tenth off your 1/4 ET and adds mpg. fits perfectly and so far, it's holding up nice and strong. also available in 409SS which is actually recommended because of increase flex. but i decided to go 304SS for the heck of it.
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I've had the warpspeed original. Then I replaced the flex section with a lined one. Now I have the Cattman.

I had a slight issue with fitament, but it was a few pipes that came out of the specific batch. I fixed it myself, but Brian Catts was very willing to send me a new Y-pipe.

I'd recommend the Cattman if you can afford it.

I'm not to sure about the Budget though, since it's not Mandrel bent. This will reduce the air flow, which could result in less hp than the mandrel bent Y-pipes. Also, Cattman uses a lined flex section to reduce noise.
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 09:43 AM
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Where can you get these budget pipes from?
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 02:12 PM
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The RT cat does increase volume. It reduces the restriction on the exhaust = more noise.

Kirk
Cool! Thanks, I'll tell everyone I know!
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 02:16 PM
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(cough) search function (cough)
(cough) www.budgetexhaust.com (cough)

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Where can you get these budget pipes from?
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 02:20 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cattman Y-Pipe Problems??

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The RT cat does increase volume. It reduces the restriction on the exhaust = more noise.

Kirk


Just cause air flows faster doesn't mean it's noisier.
Actually if you get the courtesy B-pipe, it increases air flow but does not increase the noise.

Maybe in your specific case the RT cat added additional noise, but you can't say that's true for all cases.

My RT cat had no effect on the sound of my exhaust.
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Just cause air flows faster doesn't mean it's noisier.
Actually if you get the courtesy B-pipe, it increases air flow but does not increase the noise.

Maybe in your specific case the RT cat added additional noise, but you can't say that's true for all cases.

My RT cat had no effect on the sound of my exhaust.
Hmmm...I dunno...it did make mine louder.

Kirk
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