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Old 10-04-2001, 07:52 AM
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Maxima production is comming to US

Yep, you can stop rubbing your eyes b/c it's true. Nissan closed the plant in Japan where our beloved Maximas have always been built and are moving production of the full sized Maxima to the Smyrna plant in Tennessee. The reason they are probably doing this is because the larger Maximas probably won't sell in Japan b/c they're going to be too big for what the average Japanese dude drives. The Smyrna plant here in TN is the most productive plant in the world with only 5.5 million sq/ft. Ford's Kentucky Truck Plant is 6 million sq/ft and change and they only make 2 models of trucks there, Super Duties and Excursions. In addition to this, Nissan is building that new plant in Canton, Miss that's going to open in 2003. At that plant they're going to build an all new minivan that won't be based off of the crappy Mercury van and they're also going to build an all new full-sized pickup truck with a big ol' DOHC V8. Now, I know that Nissan doesn't have any other V8's around (unless you go to Infinity) and this one is rumored to produce close to 400 bhp, gee...where do you think they're going to get the Maxima's V8 from?

All of this is part of the Nissan's North America Revival plan and I think that it's going to take off here before long. So, if you have some extra $$$ laying around, don't waste it on new mods for you max (God knows I'd like to), buy Nissan stock b/c it's going places in the near future.

Also, thanks to people with common sense, the blue collar works at the Smyrna plant voted down the UAW! Lets all rejoyce now b/c we can rest assured that Nissan will continue to make quality vehicles that we can love for many many many years. Take it easy guys!
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Old 10-04-2001, 08:39 AM
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Re: Maxima production is comming to US

Originally posted by KCMax
Yep, you can stop rubbing your eyes b/c it's true. Nissan closed the plant in Japan where our beloved Maximas have always been built and are moving production of the full sized Maxima to the Smyrna plant in Tennessee. The reason they are probably doing this is because the larger Maximas probably won't sell in Japan b/c they're going to be too big for what the average Japanese dude drives. The Smyrna plant here in TN is the most productive plant in the world with only 5.5 million sq/ft. Ford's Kentucky Truck Plant is 6 million sq/ft and change and they only make 2 models of trucks there, Super Duties and Excursions. In addition to this, Nissan is building that new plant in Canton, Miss that's going to open in 2003. At that plant they're going to build an all new minivan that won't be based off of the crappy Mercury van and they're also going to build an all new full-sized pickup truck with a big ol' DOHC V8. Now, I know that Nissan doesn't have any other V8's around (unless you go to Infinity) and this one is rumored to produce close to 400 bhp, gee...where do you think they're going to get the Maxima's V8 from?

All of this is part of the Nissan's North America Revival plan and I think that it's going to take off here before long. So, if you have some extra $$$ laying around, don't waste it on new mods for you max (God knows I'd like to), buy Nissan stock b/c it's going places in the near future.

Also, thanks to people with common sense, the blue collar works at the Smyrna plant voted down the UAW! Lets all rejoyce now b/c we can rest assured that Nissan will continue to make quality vehicles that we can love for many many many years. Take it easy guys!
what is UAW? how it affects cars?
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Old 10-04-2001, 09:29 AM
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what is UAW? how it affects cars?
The UAW is United Auto Workers, a large union. GM, Ford, and Chrysler plants are all unionized. Nissan is not. Some people blame the UAW for driving up labor costs, forcing the domestic manufacturers to cut corners on content and quality in order to hold down product prices. IMHO the issue is more complicated than that, but the UAW does deserve some of the blame for the decline of the domestic auto makers.
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Old 10-04-2001, 02:29 PM
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Oh, let me tell you. The UAW brings Ford, GM, and Chrysler to their knees. I worked with Ford for a while and some of those line operators make over $100K a year! They all retire before 55 and are all very wealth (if they haven't had 5 divorces by that time). I think that the average operator earns $20 an hour, they only work 4 days a week (10 hr days), but get 1.5 hrs worth of daily breaks. they have sooooo many guidelines by which they can take advantage of that it's really not the UAW working for the business, but the other way around. I saw guys that skipped 2 solid weeks of work and still had a job to come back to becaues of the union! It's all BS! Booooooo! To UAW!
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Re: Re: United Auto Workers

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Oh, let me tell you. The UAW brings Ford, GM, and Chrysler to their knees. I worked with Ford for a while and some of those line operators make over $100K a year! They all retire before 55 and are all very wealth (if they haven't had 5 divorces by that time). I think that the average operator earns $20 an hour, they only work 4 days a week (10 hr days), but get 1.5 hrs worth of daily breaks. they have sooooo many guidelines by which they can take advantage of that it's really not the UAW working for the business, but the other way around. I saw guys that skipped 2 solid weeks of work and still had a job to come back to becaues of the union! It's all BS! Booooooo! To UAW!
jeezzz!!!!!!!! how to get the job with UAW? 100k per year is pretty nice salary in rural america, where property and stuff is damn cheap when you compare it to cost of living in NYC!!!!!!
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jeezzz!!!!!!!! how to get the job with UAW? ...
Hire on as an hourly worker with GM, Ford, or Chrysler. That's all it takes. As soon as you start work you will be forced to join the union or "opt out" but still have to pay union fees. Some states have Right To Work laws which prohibit such coercion. Labor laws vary from state to state but in general the laws in northern states foster strong unions while laws in southern states do not.
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The UAW approached workers at the Tennessee plant encouraging them to join up. Nissan workers voted and rejected the UAW proposal by a 2 to 1 margin. Then the UAW came back accusing Nissan of threatening retribution against employees who voted in favor of the UAW.

In my opinion, the UAW is bad news. Really bad news. By it's very nature, it makes people forget about the company's overall well-being and only makes people focus on themselves and the increase of their checks for doing the same amount, quality, and scope of work. In some ways, its like an extortion squad.

When companies must pay artificially increased labor expenditures, that money is coming right out of the quality that is designed out of an automobile to recover some measure of profit margin.
Chevrolet's flagship Corvette is a $50,000 quality headache. One of my friends just bought one --

1. Driver door mirror spinning loose on its mount.
2. Lights stopped working.
3. Driver window door seal failed -- constant whistling of wind noise.
4. Climate control pumps out 30 seconds of full on heat when air conditioning is selected -- only does that sometimes.
5. Tire pressure monitor goes dead intermittently.
6. Driver seat not solid on its track -- it wobbles a little bit.

And all that happened within the first two months and the car was brand new when he bought it !! And to top it off, the GM dealer is making him pay to fix everything... And the Corvette plant is supposed to have the cream of the crop in terms of labor. I don't think so.
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Old 10-08-2001, 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by chris j vurnis
The UAW approached workers at the Tennessee plant encouraging them to join up. Nissan workers voted and rejected the UAW proposal by a 2 to 1 margin. Then the UAW came back accusing Nissan of threatening retribution against employees who voted in favor of the UAW.

In my opinion, the UAW is bad news. Really bad news. By it's very nature, it makes people forget about the company's overall well-being and only makes people focus on themselves and the increase of their checks for doing the same amount, quality, and scope of work. In some ways, its like an extortion squad.

When companies must pay artificially increased labor expenditures, that money is coming right out of the quality that is designed out of an automobile to recover some measure of profit margin.
Chevrolet's flagship Corvette is a $50,000 quality headache. One of my friends just bought one --

1. Driver door mirror spinning loose on its mount.
2. Lights stopped working.
3. Driver window door seal failed -- constant whistling of wind noise.
4. Climate control pumps out 30 seconds of full on heat when air conditioning is selected -- only does that sometimes.
5. Tire pressure monitor goes dead intermittently.
6. Driver seat not solid on its track -- it wobbles a little bit.

And all that happened within the first two months and the car was brand new when he bought it !! And to top it off, the GM dealer is making him pay to fix everything... And the Corvette plant is supposed to have the cream of the crop in terms of labor. I don't think so.
can we expect the same thing from an american built maxima? what cars/trucks/suvs does nissan make in the US currently? just wondering if built quality will suffer much. cost should go down a lot though, shouldn't it? since it wont need to be imported.
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cost should go down a lot though, shouldn't it? since it wont need to be imported.
I think the labor rates here are pretty high so I don't see the cost going down I think it is more expensive to build a car here than to build it in Japan and export it here but I might be wrong.
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heh, the mob owns everything
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Old 10-08-2001, 02:53 PM
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I kinda liked the fact that maximas came from japan, unlike accords&camrys.
And i think build quality will go down, if they build it in TN.
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