Hunter11

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My tires are wearing out bad on the edges and they always have since I lowered it on Sprints. I have H&R on there now but they still wear wrong. So, do I need to get camber bolts or camber plates. The guy at Firestone said I need camber bolts. I really don't know the difference. And will this pretty much guarantee that the car can be aligned properly?

MorpheusZero

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pretty much.

Eibach camber bolts (what I have) are like $31 from the group deal

ground control camber plates will be $100-200 more if you can find them... good luck with that

camber plates are better for precise control of camber and ease of adjustment, but they don't make them for maxes any more apart from with coilovers and they're very scarce... so just go with bolts. it's an easy install.

Hunter11

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Oh ok. Didn't know the plates weren't that available. Being pretty handy with the tools, is it a self install?

MorpheusZero

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if you've ever changed out your suspension the install will be a piece of cake.

you just yank the upper of the two bolts connecting the spindle to the strut housing and jam the camber bolt in there. tools req'd: jack, 21mm socket, 19 and 18mm sockets and a crescent wrench

NmexMAX

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I'm on sprints on my A33B and tire wear is fine. Suspension set-up is identical, so I'm guessing there might be something else wrong with your suspension.

Hunter11

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Well I have replaced all the bushings,tie-rods ends and I think that is it so maybe something is up with that. I am just trying not to put too much $ into it because it will probably sold the end of the year. But for the time being and the future buyer I want to get the suspension right.

MorpheusZero

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well i take it you got an alignment afterwards? what are the specs?

Hunter11

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I put the sprints on in 2001 and it wasn't until about 2004 until I replaced alot the parts I listed above, after I went thru a set of tires. Before the lowering the alignment was fine. I then put the H&R on about two years ago thinking the odd tires wear would stop but it didn't.

I don't know the specs but I have the lifetime alignment at Firestone.
The front left wears on the outside and the front right wears on the inside.

Also the car has never been wrecked so that shouldn't be an issue.

Hunter11

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Thinking of it, what else could be wrong with a suspension that would be causing this problem other that the lack of camber bolts?

NmexMAX

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Bad struts, worn pieces.

irish44j

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when you lower the car, you change teh geometry of the suspension and steering. When the car is lowered, it changes the alignment.

i.e. EVERY time you change springs or other suspension components you should get teh car re-aligned.

if your alignment is perfect with OEM springs and you switch to lower springs, your alignment WILL be off....

there should be no need for camber adjustments unless you are slammed to the ground, and your camber should be within spec on H&Rs, definitely.

irish44j

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or.....bad alignment

NmexMAX

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@obvious.

irish44j

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people are always looking for a complex reason why a problem is happening, and they often forget to look for the most obvious culprit

NmexMAX

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Seen it too many times.

wiggafly808

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You can get an alignment and see if youll need camber bolts.

Most places will re-do it for free if you put the bolts on before the warranty period is up.

Hunter11

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OK, maybe I didn't put it clearly but every time I do anything with the suspension I have got an alignment done b/c I have the lifetime at Firestone.
So if that is the obvious you all are speaking of then that's already covered. See, that is what is getting me, I am doing the alignments accordingly but still the bad tire wear. Maybe it's a bad alignment, maybe I need camber bolts even though people don't think you do with H&R, I'm not sure, but I still am stuck trying to get this right.