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Jan 17, 2008 | 08:08 PM
  #1  
i'm noticing a lot of old posts getting bumped by new members. the search is there so you can find answers to your questions, not bring up new (old) ones. if the thread is 2 years old and doesn't answer your question try another one. if your question never gets answered theres probably a reason. if you can't find the answer on the .org google it. if its just a lame question keep it to yourself. if you've met all the previous criteria start a new thread. when everyone said "search" when you asked a question they meant search for the answer, not search for more people asking the same question.
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Jan 17, 2008 | 08:11 PM
  #2  
cmon but lame questions are the fuNNest

excellent that you noticed new users using the search function. i also notice pmohr answering in every single AUTO transmission problem thread (as well as other noob and non noob threads) a lot lately - this maybe because the "im new here and i have a question" thread has not been bumped in forever, which in turn is because there has not been a mod in this section for like 5 months now ?

PS (phenerviv or whatever his name was always bumped that thread to the top of the first page if it got lost)

we need a new mod, i nominate myself - obviously
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Jan 17, 2008 | 08:22 PM
  #3  
Quote: cmon but lame questions are the fuNNest

excellent that you noticed new users using the search function. i also notice pmohr answering in every single AUTO transmission problem thread (as well as other noob and non noob threads) a lot lately - this maybe because the "im new here and i have a question" thread has not been bumped in forever, which in turn is because there has not been a mod in this section for like 5 months now ? PS (phenerviv or whatever his name was always bumped that thread to the top of the first page if it got lost)

we need a new mod, i nominate myself - obviously
He's phenryiv1. I sent him and Kevlo a PM a few days ago, I updated the Maintenance thread of all broken and dead links, no responses yet.

I think I should be a moderator Who votes for pmohr?

My ESP told me you were talking about me...

I try to be helpful. But as I'm sure you've seen from my points, I have my...limits. People that don't search really start to **** me off, that's why I spend a lot of time in AM, regional, and OT.

I have definitely seen a lot more searches showing up in my logs since the search has gone open to all users, though.

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[ edgebox - Thu 01-17-08 23:30 ]
[ pmohr:/var/log/apache2 ] > grep highlight access_log
83.24.70.108 [01/13/08 10:12:01] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1999-tcs.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 92433 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=546944&highlight=traction+control"
83.24.70.108 [01/13/08 10:13:18] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1999-tcs-diagnostic-2.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 38175 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=544258&highlight=traction+control"
83.24.70.108 [01/13/08 10:13:18] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1999-tcs-diagnostic.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 134818 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=544258&highlight=traction+control"
71.62.181.97 [01/13/08 10:28:54] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1995-knock-sensor-check.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 57997 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=545997&highlight=knock+sensor"
75.100.35.215 [01/13/08 16:38:28] "GET /~pmohr/pics/emuchips.JPG HTTP/1.1" 200 64167 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=536012&highlight=emanage+ultimate"
72.161.143.224 [01/13/08 17:08:26] "GET /~pmohr/pics/maf-midpipe.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 104451 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543775&highlight=00vi+pics"
69.126.8.174 [01/13/08 19:33:55] "GET /~pmohr/pics/maf-midpipe.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 104451 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543775&highlight=short+ram"
71.135.42.73 [01/14/08 02:39:27] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1995-ascd-locations.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 74113 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=545135&highlight=cruise"
198.179.147.18 [01/14/08 17:33:01] "GET /~pmohr/pics/p1148.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 33206 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=546076&highlight=P1148"
69.140.133.126 [01/14/08 17:59:14] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1995-knock-sensor-check.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 57997 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=545997&highlight=knock+sensor+harness"
66.30.224.169 [01/14/08 18:11:41] "GET /~pmohr/pics/boost-sensor-harness.png HTTP/1.1" 200 122007 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=541867&highlight=drop+resistor+mod"
68.52.196.115 [01/14/08 21:19:20] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1995-ascd-locations.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 74113 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=545135&highlight=cruise+control+problem"
69.140.133.126 [01/14/08 21:37:07] "GET /~pmohr/pics/powersteering.bmp HTTP/1.1" 200 92870 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=4941375&highlight=timing+cover"
69.140.133.126 [01/14/08 21:37:07] "GET /~pmohr/pics/compressor.bmp HTTP/1.1" 200 183382 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=4941375&highlight=timing+cover"
70.130.171.29 [01/15/08 10:39:34] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1996-map.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 35270 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543282&highlight=picture+engine"
70.130.171.29 [01/15/08 10:39:34] "GET /~pmohr/pics/1996-map-baro-ssv.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 44973 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543282&highlight=picture+engine"
70.17.215.53 [01/15/08 11:53:12] "GET /~pmohr/pics/maf-midpipe.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 104451 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543775&highlight=courtesy+nissan+dave"
65.2.97.254 [01/16/08 10:25:07] "GET /~pmohr/pics/p1148.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 33206 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=6078416&highlight=location+sensor+o2"
24.19.213.184 [01/16/08 13:09:26] "GET /~pmohr/pics/p1148.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 33206 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=542596&highlight=p0139"
65.168.237.4 [01/16/08 15:17:44] "GET /~pmohr/pics/p1148.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 33206 - "https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.php?t=542596&highlight=p0139"
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Jan 17, 2008 | 08:27 PM
  #4  
yea i nominate pmohr! does a good job!
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Jan 17, 2008 | 08:29 PM
  #5  
this is not a democracy up for debate, opinion and vote, i have been the first one to proclaim myself as THE mod...Period ;-(
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Jan 17, 2008 | 08:31 PM
  #6  
Quote: yea i nominate pmohr! does a good job!
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Jan 17, 2008 | 08:32 PM
  #7  
Quote: this is not a democracy up for debate, opinion and vote, i have been the first one to proclaim myself as THE mod...Period ;-(
10 paces and to the death, sir.

Agreed?
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Jan 18, 2008 | 04:44 AM
  #8  
Quote: i'm noticing a lot of old posts getting bumped by new members. the search is there so you can find answers to your questions, not bring up new (old) ones. if the thread is 2 years old and doesn't answer your question try another one. if your question never gets answered theres probably a reason. if you can't find the answer on the .org google it. if its just a lame question keep it to yourself. if you've met all the previous criteria start a new thread. when everyone said "search" when you asked a question they meant search for the answer, not sure for more people asking the same question.

agreed and learn to use the "noobies with question and with out 15 post thread...." what ever that is called.
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Jan 18, 2008 | 08:14 AM
  #9  
Quote: yea i nominate pmohr! does a good job!

I too would nominate him, he is a huge help, always seems to find almost everything...........but doesn't that mean he will less frequent this forum and wouldn't he turn into a complete stuck up A ho . JUST A JOKE (the statement previously stated was intended to be a joke and not directed towards any certain individual)
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Jan 18, 2008 | 10:43 AM
  #10  
I am just tired of all the NOOBZ posting answers to questions that are out of their leauge. But ... that happens on every forum, so not much to do about it. Besides that - Pmohr would make a good Mod ... IMO!

Kevlo posted not long ago something about NOT posting lame, non descriptive, one or two word threads and I couldn't agree more damn it. P ... if you become a Mod - ya gotta help stop that crap.


Pmohr for President! LOL
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Jan 18, 2008 | 11:19 AM
  #11  
If we had a mod, he could lock this thread.

Why not lock those old threads?
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Jan 18, 2008 | 11:37 AM
  #12  
What happened to Phen? (trying not to get into the crappy "lame", "n00b" blah blah blah discussion)
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Jan 18, 2008 | 11:37 AM
  #13  
credit:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=382628


This is a tough subject, one that most forums that are more than a few months old go through. A new member does not have knowledge of what is an obvious question and what isn't. To someone who just signed up, "what offset should 18x8 rims have" may be no more or less obvious than "what would it take to get to 300 awhp". The former could be quickly answered or found in a basic 5 minute search, the latter is likely to start a flame war, but the point is that someone who has been here a year (or 4 in my case) should not have an expectation that a new member will know what has been beaten to death and what hasn't. Even some topics that have been beaten to death never get conclusively answered.

We (admins/mods) expect that when a new member asks a question, it gets answered by those that know the answer or have a qualified opinion (in the case of more subjective questions like tire choice, etc). Members have no obligation to answer the question, but telling someone to search isn't an answer. A good reply to the wheel offset question could be: Quote:
I used the search function and found this thread about wheel fitments on Evos... an 18x8 with a 35mm offset will fit properly.

In that manner, the new user gets his answer and realizes he can find out a lot by searching. That is not flaming someone, it's educating. When users throw in insults into the answer, it discourages the user from posting more questions, but may also discourage them from relaying their newfound knowledge or from even coming back to the site, and that's why we don't tolerate it.

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an observation...
It seems like EVERYONE is soo concerned about reposts, and do a search... I don't see what the big deal is.. half the questions asked are probably reposts, but the replies can be off topic. If a thread is old, whats the point of keeping it... 15, 20 pages on the forum, whats the point of even having a forum if all questions that are asked always have a reply "REPOST, do a search" its so rediculous. I've belonged to many forums, and this is the first one where this is such a big deal. Who cares... a question was asked, repost or not, if you can help, help; if not.. move on...

moderators or whatever they are called, just delete threads that are 1 month old.. if its a good thread, sticky it. Even look at the How-To sections, 80% (rough estimate) of the links are DEAD.. whats the point????

dont' mean to go off, but every question i asked on this forum was little or no help at all.. and doing a search via google gives replies from other gens too, so the replies are useless. yes, you can say donate to have better search options, but why donate to a site that has be little or no help at all??
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Jan 18, 2008 | 12:41 PM
  #14  
what i'm referring to is bumping five year old questions and posting "". 1) the question was probably answered in a more recent post and 2) if it wasn't then it is either a dumb question or an answer has never been found.

bringing up these long outdated posts is a great way to spread misinformation. somebody will read it and think it is current and a whole new truth has come to light since the original post.
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Jan 18, 2008 | 02:27 PM
  #15  
Quote: I too would nominate him, he is a huge help, always seems to find almost everything...........but doesn't that mean he will less frequent this forum and wouldn't he turn into a complete stuck up A ho. JUST A JOKE (the statement previously stated was intended to be a joke and not directed towards any certain individual)
Maybe I would

That's future banninanation (that's a real word, damnit) for you

Quote: I am just tired of all the NOOBZ posting answers to questions that are out of their leauge. But ... that happens on every forum, so not much to do about it. Besides that - Pmohr would make a good Mod ... IMO!

Kevlo posted not long ago something about NOT posting lame, non descriptive, one or two word threads and I couldn't agree more damn it. P ... if you become a Mod - ya gotta help stop that crap.


Pmohr for President! LOL


Not that i'm biased....yea.

This forum honestly does need more blue unames around (that's my pimp way of referring to mods). I just find it odd neither Kevlo nor Phenryiv have responded or apparently even viewed the updates I made:
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[ edgebox - Fri 01-18-08 17:34 ]
[ pmohr:~ ] > grep 4thgen-faq-updates /var/log/apache2/access_log
69.140.133.126 [01/14/08 19:28:29] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "-"
69.140.133.126 [01/14/08 19:30:39] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "-"
192.168.1.3 [01/15/08 16:28:49] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "-"
192.168.1.3 [01/16/08 15:35:38] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 304 0 - "-"
69.140.133.126 [01/17/08 23:39:20] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "-"
65.35.51.214 [01/18/08 15:01:11] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=551146"
That's me, me, me, me, me, and a single person from this thread.

Probably the first thing I'd like to do with this forum is clean up all the stickies...
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Jan 18, 2008 | 08:56 PM
  #16  
pmohr +1
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Jan 18, 2008 | 09:11 PM
  #17  
Quote: pmohr +1


Quote: If we had a mod, he could lock this thread.

Why not lock those old threads?
That's always been my thought; Auto lock threads after 6 months, problem solved...
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Jan 18, 2008 | 10:02 PM
  #18  
Quote: pmohr +1
This is a no-brainer.

vote pmohr for change in '08!
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Jan 18, 2008 | 11:38 PM
  #19  
Quote: pmohr +1
Pmohr is my choice in "08........as for president the options look blah, once again.
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Jan 18, 2008 | 11:50 PM
  #20  
Quote: yea i nominate pmohr! does a good job!
Quote: I too would nominate him
Quote: Besides that - Pmohr would make a good Mod ... IMO!
Quote: pmohr +1
Quote: This is a no-brainer.
vote pmohr for change in '08!
Quote: Pmohr is my choice in "08
Seems like a clear cut choice to me

But of course:
Quote: I think I should be a moderator
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Jan 19, 2008 | 12:47 AM
  #21  
Quote: Seems like a clear cut choice to me :
BTW ANDREI, you still get tons of ORG love man.

What do you say Pmohr, Free Y- pipes for every body ....... come on man try the Hilary Method
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Jan 19, 2008 | 12:55 AM
  #22  
Quote: BTW ANDREI, you still get tons of ORG love man.

What do you say Pmohr, Free Y- pipes for every body ....... come on man try the Hilary Method
Sure thing, if you can get IB to spring for them...

Of course with this adblocker stuff posted in my sig (:attention), I'm sure they wouldn't be too appreciative of me being a mod.
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Jan 19, 2008 | 04:53 AM
  #23  
Quote: Maybe I would

That's future banninanation (that's a real word, damnit) for you





Not that i'm biased....yea.

This forum honestly does need more blue unames around (that's my pimp way of referring to mods). I just find it odd neither Kevlo nor Phenryiv have responded or apparently even viewed the updates I made:
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[ edgebox - Fri 01-18-08 17:34 ]
[ pmohr:~ ] > grep 4thgen-faq-updates /var/log/apache2/access_log
69.140.133.126 [01/14/08 19:28:29] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "-"
69.140.133.126 [01/14/08 19:30:39] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "-"
192.168.1.3 [01/15/08 16:28:49] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "-"
192.168.1.3 [01/16/08 15:35:38] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 304 0 - "-"
69.140.133.126 [01/17/08 23:39:20] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "-"
65.35.51.214 [01/18/08 15:01:11] "GET /~pmohr/4thgen-faq-updates.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 48433 - "http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=551146"
That's me, me, me, me, me, and a single person from this thread.

Probably the first thing I'd like to do with this forum is clean up all the stickies...

CRAP!!! I knew I should have held back from saying that.......
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Jan 19, 2008 | 07:36 AM
  #24  
Quote: Sure thing, if you can get IB to spring for them...
IB?
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Jan 19, 2008 | 09:52 AM
  #25  
Awesome, I didn't know non donating members had the ability to search until now. Makes my life easier.
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Jan 19, 2008 | 10:12 AM
  #26  
Yup. Google doesnt work anymore. only gives a couple of results.
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Jan 19, 2008 | 11:54 AM
  #27  
Quote: Probably the first thing I'd like to do with this forum is clean up all the stickies...

It needs done and in a badddd way. Some old stuff in there that needs to be updated. Still working on my 5spd rebuild write up ... will be done soon. Then, maybe if enough people agree, I'd like it stickEEd!


Vote Pmohr in 08'
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Jan 19, 2008 | 08:35 PM
  #28  
Quote: Sure thing, if you can get IB to spring for them...

Of course with this adblocker stuff posted in my sig (:attention), I'm sure they wouldn't be too appreciative of me being a mod.
I don't see why they should hold it against you, your just trying to keep the peace. In fact, I wasn't sure of what everybody was complaning about "ads" until I remembered I've always run an ad-blocker- so I didn't even see them. forget the pipe lol...information is power.

Edit: Mohf, IB is the new owner of the site...Iwas just joking ->there are NO y-pipes for everybody, just some sarcasm.
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Jan 19, 2008 | 10:00 PM
  #29  
I vote Big Nuts Mcgurrdy!!!
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