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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Which LED Tail Design Do You Like Better?

3 Row Design:



NEW! 4 Row Design (They Were Hard To Photograph):



Let me know what you guys think. Personaaly I like the 4 row more.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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3 row FTW!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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The 4 row looks , but the outer tail light is kinda blurry
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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3 rows do look somewat better...U still selling these?
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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the outer basically turns into a line with hotspots, but the inner matches the ouer in brigthnes better than the 3 row. that has a lot to do with how i mounted them, but they are the same between these examples.
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The 4 rows do fill in more though...
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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3 rows do look somewat better...U still selling these?
yeah, i have been working on them for a good while now and its down to this. i have some 3 row prototypes on ebay right now (sse sig) and 1 more set stashed away. theres a good possibility they will be the last 3 rows ui make because i like the 4 row so much more.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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3 row FTW!!!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't agree more.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Dang,ill take the 4 rows too...Theres now way ill get to win them on ebay,i dont have the time to keep up with it...Wish u had the BUY NOW option...Good job anyways,they look sweet...
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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4 rows look nice.but 3 row brings out the individual leds....clearer..... i think.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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I like the 4 row, fills the light well, Looks almost OEM style, but the blurry pics make judgement tough
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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just a Q, I'd PM but I thought someone else may be curious.

How is the wiring set up? Personally I have my outer tails wired as the signals, so I was curious how you have them set up. I assume they are just 3 labeled wires from the back of the board?

I was also wondering because I'm more seriously looking at getting/making some LED tails, how is the reliability of the set up? Have you had any issues with burnouts or any such problems?

Thanks man and keep up the good work !!
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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3!!!! 4 is to many!!
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BlackonBlack, Do u make these for 96 tails as well?
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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5 row is best...


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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Same here,then again.Am tired as hell
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by f550maranello2
5 row is best...
Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me..... I count 3 rows in your tails......
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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3 row hotness.....



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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me..... I count 3 rows in your tails......
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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well I think he means 5 rows when he is on the brake
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$ rows are hard to get a clear shot but i also went with 4 rows.
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Damn!!! Nice looking tails you have there. The 3 row looks better to me, but the 4 rows look fuller in the tails. I woul have to go witht the 3 row unless you can put a better 4 row pic up to change my mind?
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Definitely 3 row...
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new 4 row pic added. they are still hard to photograph because theres so much light.
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3 rows.. wayyy clearer to me...
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3 row = hotness. it looks more defined/aftermarket.
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
How is the wiring set up? Personally I have my outer tails wired as the signals, so I was curious how you have them set up. I assume they are just 3 labeled wires from the back of the board?

I was also wondering because I'm more seriously looking at getting/making some LED tails, how is the reliability of the set up? Have you had any issues with burnouts or any such problems?
here is a diagram:



every thing runs through a pwm (dimmer) circuit. the signal is taken from a brake light harness. reliablity has not/should not be an issue because the leds are high quality and running within specs. the pwm increases reliability by eliminating the heat caused by drop resistors sometimes used to dim the marker lights.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DomoMaxima98
3 rows.. wayyy clearer to me...
Originally Posted by QNO_A32
3 row = hotness. it looks more defined/aftermarket.
i wish i had a better camera/skills. to give you an idea, the inners on the 4 row appear the same as the 3 in person. because there are more leds and they are slightly tighter spaced the light floods when i take pictures.
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Have you thought of doing a four row when the brakes are on and a 2 row when they are not? Top row and third row.

Just shooting out some ideas.

I like the 4 rows personally.
more oem.

but then again, I like the cadalic cts (I think that's the model) taillights too. One row on when the parking lights are on and 2 or 3 when the brakes are applied.
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Originally Posted by JSMax
Have you thought of doing a four row when the brakes are on and a 2 row when they are not? Top row and third row.
i've never been a fan of that style personally. it tends to make the light look empty when the markers are on. it might look ok on some of the newer cars where the lights are designed for that, but not so much on these imo.

Originally Posted by JSMax
I like the 4 rows personally.
more oem.
thats the look i am going for; updated oem rather than sporty/aftermarket. i think the 4 row is a good blend of both because the rows are visible but not overpowering.
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
here is a diagram:



every thing runs through a pwm (dimmer) circuit. the signal is taken from a brake light harness. reliablity has not/should not be an issue because the leds are high quality and running within specs. the pwm increases reliability by eliminating the heat caused by drop resistors sometimes used to dim the marker lights.
I'm a little confused by your diagram, are the numbered boxes the tailights?
And also, by 'Signal' is that the imput(stock wiring)?

If you have a picture of the wiring out of the back that would help I think. Like I said, normally you have 3 wires going to each individual tail. Thats the biggest reason I don't get your diagram.
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the numbers are each taillight board. the signal is pulled though a harness attached to the oem bulb socket.

the reason most people have 3 wires is because they use drop resistors for dimming. i use a pwm, which pulses the leds at a very fast rate making them appear dimmer. this design only requires 1 signal wire and a short grounding wire.
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i finally got a good pic. i don't know why it took a genius like me so long to realize all i had to do was turn down the brightness.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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I personally like the 4 row better. It just gives it a more polished, OEM look. Alot like Caddy tails with the LEDs close together, when you turn them on they just jump out at you.
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3 row hotness.....



hottest @SS on any Max, EVER!
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still think it should be kept to 3. More rows just makes them crowded and blurry. Not a fan of the 4. How did you fit 4? I don't think I could have fit 4 rows on my boards ha.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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still think it should be kept to 3. More rows just makes them crowded and blurry. Not a fan of the 4. How did you fit 4? I don't think I could have fit 4 rows on my boards ha.
i'm 98% sure that i'm going to run with the 4 row. i like it a lot better and the masses seem to be split down the middle. maybe 2 designs? stay tuned...

as for fitting them, thats the beauty of computer crafted precision.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Split down the middle? All im reading is 3 Row sir ..


Let me add to the list, 3 Row FTW, you make 3 rows w/ the bottom being led's as well and you got a set bought from me sir.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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you gotta consider 4 or 5 of those are people who own 3 row sets, so they're going to be biased. it would have to be a landslide for me to do the 3 row for a couple reasons:

1. its been done (by almost everybody who has led tails)
2. i like the 4 row better
3. the 4 row design more accurately presents the image i would like my company to have

there is a possibility of me offering both designs, but it costs a lot of money for each one. i have more than a couple thousand dollars into this and have made all of 3.5 sets.

i plan on doing the reverse, but i will not be doing the turns. i prototyped a set when i started and there just isn't a good way to mass produce something that is good looking, safe, and fairly simple to install. i kind of polled the members when i began and most didn't feel the turns/reverse were necessary anyway.
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I'd love to buy a set, these are freeking hot. I'm not positive I would, due to my lack of money. If I bought a set, I would only buy 3 row. 4 row would never get purchased by me. Just my opinion...



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