View Poll Results: Which Do You Prefer?
3 Row



45
60.81%
4 Row



29
39.19%
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Which LED Tail Design Do You Like Better?
Which LED Tail Design Do You Like Better?
3 Row Design:

NEW! 4 Row Design (They Were Hard To Photograph):

Let me know what you guys think. Personaaly I like the 4 row more.

NEW! 4 Row Design (They Were Hard To Photograph):

Let me know what you guys think. Personaaly I like the 4 row more.
Last edited by BLACKonBLACK98; Feb 21, 2008 at 10:01 AM.
the outer basically turns into a line with hotspots, but the inner matches the ouer in brigthnes better than the 3 row. that has a lot to do with how i mounted them, but they are the same between these examples.
yeah, i have been working on them for a good while now and its down to this. i have some 3 row prototypes on ebay right now (sse sig) and 1 more set stashed away. theres a good possibility they will be the last 3 rows ui make because i like the 4 row so much more.
just a Q, I'd PM but I thought someone else may be curious.
How is the wiring set up? Personally I have my outer tails wired as the signals, so I was curious how you have them set up. I assume they are just 3 labeled wires from the back of the board?
I was also wondering because I'm more seriously looking at getting/making some LED tails, how is the reliability of the set up? Have you had any issues with burnouts or any such problems?
Thanks man and keep up the good work !!
How is the wiring set up? Personally I have my outer tails wired as the signals, so I was curious how you have them set up. I assume they are just 3 labeled wires from the back of the board?
I was also wondering because I'm more seriously looking at getting/making some LED tails, how is the reliability of the set up? Have you had any issues with burnouts or any such problems?
Thanks man and keep up the good work !!
Damn!!! Nice looking tails you have there. The 3 row looks better to me, but the 4 rows look fuller in the tails. I woul have to go witht the 3 row unless you can put a better 4 row pic up to change my mind?
How is the wiring set up? Personally I have my outer tails wired as the signals, so I was curious how you have them set up. I assume they are just 3 labeled wires from the back of the board?
I was also wondering because I'm more seriously looking at getting/making some LED tails, how is the reliability of the set up? Have you had any issues with burnouts or any such problems?
I was also wondering because I'm more seriously looking at getting/making some LED tails, how is the reliability of the set up? Have you had any issues with burnouts or any such problems?

every thing runs through a pwm (dimmer) circuit. the signal is taken from a brake light harness. reliablity has not/should not be an issue because the leds are high quality and running within specs. the pwm increases reliability by eliminating the heat caused by drop resistors sometimes used to dim the marker lights.
i wish i had a better camera/skills. to give you an idea, the inners on the 4 row appear the same as the 3 in person. because there are more leds and they are slightly tighter spaced the light floods when i take pictures.
Have you thought of doing a four row when the brakes are on and a 2 row when they are not? Top row and third row.
Just shooting out some ideas.
I like the 4 rows personally.
more oem.
but then again, I like the cadalic cts (I think that's the model) taillights too. One row on when the parking lights are on and 2 or 3 when the brakes are applied.
Just shooting out some ideas.
I like the 4 rows personally.
more oem.
but then again, I like the cadalic cts (I think that's the model) taillights too. One row on when the parking lights are on and 2 or 3 when the brakes are applied.
thats the look i am going for; updated oem rather than sporty/aftermarket. i think the 4 row is a good blend of both because the rows are visible but not overpowering.
here is a diagram:

every thing runs through a pwm (dimmer) circuit. the signal is taken from a brake light harness. reliablity has not/should not be an issue because the leds are high quality and running within specs. the pwm increases reliability by eliminating the heat caused by drop resistors sometimes used to dim the marker lights.

every thing runs through a pwm (dimmer) circuit. the signal is taken from a brake light harness. reliablity has not/should not be an issue because the leds are high quality and running within specs. the pwm increases reliability by eliminating the heat caused by drop resistors sometimes used to dim the marker lights.
And also, by 'Signal' is that the imput(stock wiring)?
If you have a picture of the wiring out of the back that would help I think. Like I said, normally you have 3 wires going to each individual tail. Thats the biggest reason I don't get your diagram.
the numbers are each taillight board. the signal is pulled though a harness attached to the oem bulb socket.
the reason most people have 3 wires is because they use drop resistors for dimming. i use a pwm, which pulses the leds at a very fast rate making them appear dimmer. this design only requires 1 signal wire and a short grounding wire.
the reason most people have 3 wires is because they use drop resistors for dimming. i use a pwm, which pulses the leds at a very fast rate making them appear dimmer. this design only requires 1 signal wire and a short grounding wire.
as for fitting them, thats the beauty of computer crafted precision.
you gotta consider 4 or 5 of those are people who own 3 row sets, so they're going to be biased. it would have to be a landslide for me to do the 3 row for a couple reasons:
1. its been done (by almost everybody who has led tails)
2. i like the 4 row better
3. the 4 row design more accurately presents the image i would like my company to have
there is a possibility of me offering both designs, but it costs a lot of money for each one. i have more than a couple thousand dollars into this and have made all of 3.5 sets.
i plan on doing the reverse, but i will not be doing the turns. i prototyped a set when i started and there just isn't a good way to mass produce something that is good looking, safe, and fairly simple to install. i kind of polled the members when i began and most didn't feel the turns/reverse were necessary anyway.
1. its been done (by almost everybody who has led tails)
2. i like the 4 row better
3. the 4 row design more accurately presents the image i would like my company to have
there is a possibility of me offering both designs, but it costs a lot of money for each one. i have more than a couple thousand dollars into this and have made all of 3.5 sets.
i plan on doing the reverse, but i will not be doing the turns. i prototyped a set when i started and there just isn't a good way to mass produce something that is good looking, safe, and fairly simple to install. i kind of polled the members when i began and most didn't feel the turns/reverse were necessary anyway.
I'd love to buy a set, these are freeking hot. I'm not positive I would, due to my lack of money. If I bought a set, I would only buy 3 row. 4 row would never get purchased by me. Just my opinion...




, but the outer tail light is kinda blurry
Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me..... I count 3 rows in your tails......


