lol, my friend used to be a 03 spec V owner until he could not afford it, and he says that that the stock 175HP 180TQ @2700lb car can destroy any gen 4 maxima @ 190HP 205TQ @ 3000lbs...

There is like what a 300lb diff? And 15 extra HP as well as 25 extra TQ and it being a V6, so probably better bottom end.

I have a 5 speed and I also put 2.6 grand of work into it, Short ram intake, exhaust, HIDs, headlights, brembo brakes, race street tires.

I was like... yah kid, the spec V also gets less track times, so how can that be? he never even explained it, then he went on to say that when I "legally" raced him in his 93 accord and beat him, he says I was only 2 cars ahead of him. LOL

The most I can say is they can keep up with a spec V, but I guess depending on driver, I know maximas can beat them and are faster.

ah silly ricers...

I think the HIDs will give you the competitive edge in this bench race

I don't know who will win but what I do know is that the Spec V definitely "feels" faster.

P.S. the fact that you put 2.5K of work into your car that has very little to do with performance does not mean you will have an edge. Short ram, exhaust, and "racing tires" are food for thought. Your HIDS might give you the 5hp, though...

HIDs and Headlights? sweet combo

flames coming.

First thing that comes to mind.....


Second thing...........

Third............



Finally.....

No weekend battles section means more of this in here....and the 4th gen forum already has enough crap in it....


Oh and

I KNOW that spec V's can beat most 4th gens with similar bolt-on's. I've raced many maxima's and never lost(when I had that oil consuming POS!). My track times were consistent 14.5-6@95mph

i have no idea but in before teh lock

The spec v and max are equal in performance

Seems like you got raped for what you got for the money... I'll destroy you with only $1000 worth of mods. LOL

Btw I was running just intake, header, filled mm's, and exhaust on stock 17's. To be honest though 90% of spec V drivers can't drive that car for $hit! Its a difficult car to launch, because of a very torquey first gear and very soft motor mounts. Most decent maxima drivers will win because of what I just mentioned.

Thats why I got a REAL se-r!

They have superior gearing and a *slightly* better power-to-weight ratio (if we're talking Spec V) stock-for-stock. They ARE faster than a 4th gen. Slap on the same mods to both cars and they are still faster. Not by much, but faster nonetheless. This is assuming a 5-speed Maxima. Make it an auto and the difference only gets larger. Don't get me wrong, I love my Maxima, but let's be realistic.

Show me spec Vs runnng 14.7s and 14.8s @ 92-93mph stock - let alone 14.2s and 14.3s @ 94-95mph stock. Last I'd looked at the Spec V timeslip database, their quickest stock time was a 14.89 @ 91.x if I recall correctly. My experience indicates they are on average a couple tenths and a couple mph slower than a comparably modded 4th gen. With very good 60' times like 2.1x the quickest ones are still BARELY making into the 14s and they're only trapping 90-91mph.

I'd have to see a mountain of evidence to indicate otherwise to sway my opinion, because thus far, I've seen precisely none that indicates they are as fast, or faster, than a 4th gen. Being realistic.

me n zshopa have a common friend wiht an 06 Spec V that says his gonna beat us.... not gonna happen tho his a good driver latly with his spec.

We'll i owned both cars and can tell you first hand that it takes more mods and money for a 4th gen to run a 14.5 then it took ME in MY specV. Like i said most spec v divers can't drive for $hit so going by those 17yr old kids times on Thevoard and b15sentra isn't a good place to look. I am telling for 700 bucks in mods(I/H/E) i was running 14.5-6's @ 94-95mph all day long. I have about 40 timeslips to prove it too. Thats being as realistic as i can be.


btw where the hell did you get stock spec V's running 14.7's-14.8's (even though I have seen a rare few do it) But for the most part stock V's usually run the 15.6-7@ 89-90mph. The new ones are a little faster and seem to be trapping 94 stock, so they are definitely making more power then my 02's made.

IBTL!

300lbs is a big difference... And with this much weight (~3000lbs) 15 hp isnt that much.

HIDs, headlights have been burned already.
Brakes must help a lot in a straight-line drag, eh?
Whats a "race street tire"?

This thread is getting tiresome, somebody needs to close it. Maxima guys are to sensitive about there cars(me included)

i'll put this as vaguely as possible;

i was faster than one of those this one time so...


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$700 in mods on an average 4th gen (5 speed) has them trapping 97-98mph as has been the experience not only of myself, but of lots of people.

I understand that your experience has led you to believe the spec V is faster. My experience has indicated exactly the opposite. I'm sure neither of us is ever going to convince the other, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.





I said 14.8s and 14.9s, because those were the best stock times I was able to find with stock Spec Vs. I wasn't looking for average times.

spec v is not faster

a few tenths means nothing. it all comes down to if you would rather drive a much more stylish and sexy v6 with great bottom end, or a farty 4 banger, redline racer that just so happens to be a few tenths quicker? to most on this site, the choice is clear

ibtl

and

maxima > specv

im gonna take a duce in a bucket and drop it out the window of a 25 story building with a 15 mph nnw crosswind and time it just in time to watch it fall into the sunroof of the car of the thread starter.

dosen't make sense? neither does this thread!!!

How far away was his car from the building?

ill give him a 4 block run. if he makes it then im willing to beat that he can beat a skyline in a 1/4!!

ITS GONNA BE A HEAVY BUCKET!!!!

I used to own a 2002 Spec-V (luckily I got one made 2 months AFTER they fixed the problem w/ the cat and block and whatever else...).

I can't really compare directly b/c the Spec-V was 6-speed and my 4th Gen. is A/T.

But against 2 friends in Maximas at the time (1 AT, 1 MT) I had a slight advantage off the line (b/c of the HLSD perhaps?) but at about 40MPH+ I'd get murdered by both of them.

My biggest advantage was handling - stock vs. stock, the Spec-V was much better.

I love my Max. but I miss the Spec-V... $$$$$$$$$$ = school...

This is the stupidest post in this thread aside from what was originally posted. You clearly have never driven the car. The Spec V is geared much better than our cars and has as much if not more bottom end power.

Both of you should just floor it and see the outcome

"2.6 grand of work into it, Short ram intake, exhaust, HIDs, headlights, brembo brakes, race street tires"

My estimation of the prices of the following items are...
Short ram intake = $50?
HIDs = $150?
Headlights = $200?
Race street tires = $145x4= $580?
Exhaust (full cattman)= $1350?
Brembo brakes (rotors+pads?) = $270?
TOTAL --------- $2600

Is that how you spent your 2.6 grand?

yah, pretty much, I am just saying how much I put into the car so far, Even stock for Stock, I still think a Maxima can beat the Spec V. Of course depends on the launch.

Your estimate is pretty close...
Strut tower bar $100
HIDs were $240
K&N short ram was $150
Headlights were $200, u were right there.
Yokohama Tires were $600
Exhaust catback and y-pipe was about $1000 with labor (no torch so I had to take it)
Brembos with Axxis pads were about $300

so about $2400-ish... but I was around the area

I have driven the spec V, my friend aaron has one, when I drove it, it was not bad at all for a 4 banger, a bit notchy in the gears(which got annoying because finding reverse was impossible) and very bad TQ steer, but other then that it was not too bad... If I got a newer cheap 4 banger,that it would prob be that...

You forgot to add 93 octane yo!

^, hey, I do put that in, HOW U KNO? acutally I cheated 2nite cause I was broke and put in .... OH NOES... 89!!!! PLUS.... I hope my knock sensor kiel me...

The max will always be quicker, reardless auto or manual. It will also depend on the driver. I know I will have to pull a perfect launch to get a perfect 0-60 timing on the se-r,with equal drivers the max will get there first.

Just for reference here, my spec V with intake, cams, header, full 2.5" test pipe/exhaust, tuned SAFCII, and UDP (also STS, suspension, lightweight wheels) put down 182whp/178wtq and fastest run at the track was 14.3@98.

I think mod for mod a 4th gen will be quicker in a straight line, especially a MEVI equipped 4th gen, but stock for stock assuming MT maxima it's a drivers race.

The spec V isn't much of a straight line car, anyway. Try putting your 4th gen against one on a real track

What intellegent nissan owner would buy a QR25DE ?

And damns yo how'd you git yoself a K&N thats tha shiznet must have added at least 20hp!!!!


IBTL

r u kidding me? This stupid thread got this many replies? I posts a. Thread asking for help ab8 my car and not one reply from 5th genners. This is just bull**** .

And what a stupid question is this? Spec v's are built to be great handling cars you can beat allday in a track not drag.