Anyone ever meet a Spec V owner thats thinks they are faster then us?
#1
Anyone ever meet a Spec V owner thats thinks they are faster then us?
lol, my friend used to be a 03 spec V owner until he could not afford it, and he says that that the stock 175HP 180TQ @2700lb car can destroy any gen 4 maxima @ 190HP 205TQ @ 3000lbs...
There is like what a 300lb diff? And 15 extra HP as well as 25 extra TQ and it being a V6, so probably better bottom end.
I have a 5 speed and I also put 2.6 grand of work into it, Short ram intake, exhaust, HIDs, headlights, brembo brakes, race street tires.
I was like... yah kid, the spec V also gets less track times, so how can that be? he never even explained it, then he went on to say that when I "legally" raced him in his 93 accord and beat him, he says I was only 2 cars ahead of him. LOL
The most I can say is they can keep up with a spec V, but I guess depending on driver, I know maximas can beat them and are faster.
ah silly ricers...
There is like what a 300lb diff? And 15 extra HP as well as 25 extra TQ and it being a V6, so probably better bottom end.
I have a 5 speed and I also put 2.6 grand of work into it, Short ram intake, exhaust, HIDs, headlights, brembo brakes, race street tires.
I was like... yah kid, the spec V also gets less track times, so how can that be? he never even explained it, then he went on to say that when I "legally" raced him in his 93 accord and beat him, he says I was only 2 cars ahead of him. LOL
The most I can say is they can keep up with a spec V, but I guess depending on driver, I know maximas can beat them and are faster.
ah silly ricers...
#4
I don't know who will win but what I do know is that the Spec V definitely "feels" faster.
P.S. the fact that you put 2.5K of work into your car that has very little to do with performance does not mean you will have an edge. Short ram, exhaust, and "racing tires" are food for thought. Your HIDS might give you the 5hp, though...
P.S. the fact that you put 2.5K of work into your car that has very little to do with performance does not mean you will have an edge. Short ram, exhaust, and "racing tires" are food for thought. Your HIDS might give you the 5hp, though...
Last edited by devilz05; 02-28-2008 at 03:23 PM.
#13
Btw I was running just intake, header, filled mm's, and exhaust on stock 17's. To be honest though 90% of spec V drivers can't drive that car for $hit! Its a difficult car to launch, because of a very torquey first gear and very soft motor mounts. Most decent maxima drivers will win because of what I just mentioned.
Thats why I got a REAL se-r!
Thats why I got a REAL se-r!
#14
They have superior gearing and a *slightly* better power-to-weight ratio (if we're talking Spec V) stock-for-stock. They ARE faster than a 4th gen. Slap on the same mods to both cars and they are still faster. Not by much, but faster nonetheless. This is assuming a 5-speed Maxima. Make it an auto and the difference only gets larger. Don't get me wrong, I love my Maxima, but let's be realistic.
#15
Show me spec Vs runnng 14.7s and 14.8s @ 92-93mph stock - let alone 14.2s and 14.3s @ 94-95mph stock. Last I'd looked at the Spec V timeslip database, their quickest stock time was a 14.89 @ 91.x if I recall correctly. My experience indicates they are on average a couple tenths and a couple mph slower than a comparably modded 4th gen. With very good 60' times like 2.1x the quickest ones are still BARELY making into the 14s and they're only trapping 90-91mph.
I'd have to see a mountain of evidence to indicate otherwise to sway my opinion, because thus far, I've seen precisely none that indicates they are as fast, or faster, than a 4th gen. Being realistic.
I'd have to see a mountain of evidence to indicate otherwise to sway my opinion, because thus far, I've seen precisely none that indicates they are as fast, or faster, than a 4th gen. Being realistic.
Last edited by Nealoc187; 02-28-2008 at 07:05 PM.
#17
Show me spec Vs runnng 14.7s and 14.8s @ 92-93mph stock - let alone 14.2s and 14.3s @ 94-95mph stock. Last I'd looked at the Spec V timeslip database, their quickest stock time was a 14.89 @ 91.x if I recall correctly. My experience indicates they are on average a couple tenths and a couple mph slower than a comparably modded 4th gen. With very good 60' times like 2.1x the quickest ones are still BARELY making into the 14s and they're only trapping 90-91mph.
I'd have to see a mountain of evidence to indicate otherwise to sway my opinion, because thus far, I've seen precisely none that indicates they are as fast, or faster, than a 4th gen. Being realistic.
I'd have to see a mountain of evidence to indicate otherwise to sway my opinion, because thus far, I've seen precisely none that indicates they are as fast, or faster, than a 4th gen. Being realistic.
We'll i owned both cars and can tell you first hand that it takes more mods and money for a 4th gen to run a 14.5 then it took ME in MY specV. Like i said most spec v divers can't drive for $hit so going by those 17yr old kids times on Thevoard and b15sentra isn't a good place to look. I am telling for 700 bucks in mods(I/H/E) i was running 14.5-6's @ 94-95mph all day long. I have about 40 timeslips to prove it too. Thats being as realistic as i can be.
btw where the hell did you get stock spec V's running 14.7's-14.8's (even though I have seen a rare few do it) But for the most part stock V's usually run the 15.6-7@ 89-90mph. The new ones are a little faster and seem to be trapping 94 stock, so they are definitely making more power then my 02's made.
Last edited by babymac; 02-28-2008 at 07:43 PM.
#18
IBTL!
300lbs is a big difference... And with this much weight (~3000lbs) 15 hp isnt that much.
HIDs, headlights have been burned already.
Brakes must help a lot in a straight-line drag, eh?
Whats a "race street tire"?
Brakes must help a lot in a straight-line drag, eh?
Whats a "race street tire"?
#21
We'll i owned both cars and can tell you first hand that it takes more mods and money for a 4th gen to run a 14.5 then it took ME in MY specV. Like i said most spec v divers can't drive for $hit so going by those 17yr old kids times on Thevoard and b15sentra isn't a good place to look. I am telling for 700 bucks in mods(I/H/E) i was running 14.5-6's @ 94-95mph all day long. I have about 40 timeslips to prove it too. Thats being as realistic as i can be.
$700 in mods on an average 4th gen (5 speed) has them trapping 97-98mph as has been the experience not only of myself, but of lots of people.
I understand that your experience has led you to believe the spec V is faster. My experience has indicated exactly the opposite. I'm sure neither of us is ever going to convince the other, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
btw where the hell did you get stock spec V's running 14.7's-14.8's (even though I have seen a rare few do it) But for the most part stock V's usually run the 15.6-7@ 89-90mph. The new ones are a little faster and seem to be trapping 94 stock, so they are definitely making more power then my 02's made.
I said 14.8s and 14.9s, because those were the best stock times I was able to find with stock Spec Vs. I wasn't looking for average times.
#23
a few tenths means nothing. it all comes down to if you would rather drive a much more stylish and sexy v6 with great bottom end, or a farty 4 banger, redline racer that just so happens to be a few tenths quicker? to most on this site, the choice is clear
#25
im gonna take a duce in a bucket and drop it out the window of a 25 story building with a 15 mph nnw crosswind and time it just in time to watch it fall into the sunroof of the car of the thread starter.
dosen't make sense? neither does this thread!!!
dosen't make sense? neither does this thread!!!
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#28
I used to own a 2002 Spec-V (luckily I got one made 2 months AFTER they fixed the problem w/ the cat and block and whatever else...).
I can't really compare directly b/c the Spec-V was 6-speed and my 4th Gen. is A/T.
But against 2 friends in Maximas at the time (1 AT, 1 MT) I had a slight advantage off the line (b/c of the HLSD perhaps?) but at about 40MPH+ I'd get murdered by both of them.
My biggest advantage was handling - stock vs. stock, the Spec-V was much better.
I love my Max. but I miss the Spec-V... $$$$$$$$$$ = school...
I can't really compare directly b/c the Spec-V was 6-speed and my 4th Gen. is A/T.
But against 2 friends in Maximas at the time (1 AT, 1 MT) I had a slight advantage off the line (b/c of the HLSD perhaps?) but at about 40MPH+ I'd get murdered by both of them.
My biggest advantage was handling - stock vs. stock, the Spec-V was much better.
I love my Max. but I miss the Spec-V... $$$$$$$$$$ = school...
#29
This is the stupidest post in this thread aside from what was originally posted. You clearly have never driven the car. The Spec V is geared much better than our cars and has as much if not more bottom end power.
Last edited by devilz05; 02-28-2008 at 10:31 PM.
#32
"2.6 grand of work into it, Short ram intake, exhaust, HIDs, headlights, brembo brakes, race street tires"
My estimation of the prices of the following items are...
Short ram intake = $50?
HIDs = $150?
Headlights = $200?
Race street tires = $145x4= $580?
Exhaust (full cattman)= $1350?
Brembo brakes (rotors+pads?) = $270?
TOTAL --------- $2600
Is that how you spent your 2.6 grand?
My estimation of the prices of the following items are...
Short ram intake = $50?
HIDs = $150?
Headlights = $200?
Race street tires = $145x4= $580?
Exhaust (full cattman)= $1350?
Brembo brakes (rotors+pads?) = $270?
TOTAL --------- $2600
Is that how you spent your 2.6 grand?
#33
yah, pretty much, I am just saying how much I put into the car so far, Even stock for Stock, I still think a Maxima can beat the Spec V. Of course depends on the launch.
Your estimate is pretty close...
Strut tower bar $100
HIDs were $240
K&N short ram was $150
Headlights were $200, u were right there.
Yokohama Tires were $600
Exhaust catback and y-pipe was about $1000 with labor (no torch so I had to take it)
Brembos with Axxis pads were about $300
so about $2400-ish... but I was around the area
Your estimate is pretty close...
Strut tower bar $100
HIDs were $240
K&N short ram was $150
Headlights were $200, u were right there.
Yokohama Tires were $600
Exhaust catback and y-pipe was about $1000 with labor (no torch so I had to take it)
Brembos with Axxis pads were about $300
so about $2400-ish... but I was around the area
#34
I have driven the spec V, my friend aaron has one, when I drove it, it was not bad at all for a 4 banger, a bit notchy in the gears(which got annoying because finding reverse was impossible) and very bad TQ steer, but other then that it was not too bad... If I got a newer cheap 4 banger,that it would prob be that...
#35
yah, pretty much, I am just saying how much I put into the car so far, Even stock for Stock, I still think a Maxima can beat the Spec V. Of course depends on the launch.
Your estimate is pretty close...
Strut tower bar $100
HIDs were $240
K&N short ram was $150
Headlights were $200, u were right there.
Yokohama Tires were $600
Exhaust catback and y-pipe was about $1000 with labor (no torch so I had to take it)
Brembos with Axxis pads were about $300
so about $2400-ish... but I was around the area
Your estimate is pretty close...
Strut tower bar $100
HIDs were $240
K&N short ram was $150
Headlights were $200, u were right there.
Yokohama Tires were $600
Exhaust catback and y-pipe was about $1000 with labor (no torch so I had to take it)
Brembos with Axxis pads were about $300
so about $2400-ish... but I was around the area
You forgot to add 93 octane yo!
#37
The max will always be quicker, reardless auto or manual. It will also depend on the driver. I know I will have to pull a perfect launch to get a perfect 0-60 timing on the se-r,with equal drivers the max will get there first.
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Just for reference here, my spec V with intake, cams, header, full 2.5" test pipe/exhaust, tuned SAFCII, and UDP (also STS, suspension, lightweight wheels) put down 182whp/178wtq and fastest run at the track was 14.3@98.
I think mod for mod a 4th gen will be quicker in a straight line, especially a MEVI equipped 4th gen, but stock for stock assuming MT maxima it's a drivers race.
The spec V isn't much of a straight line car, anyway. Try putting your 4th gen against one on a real track
I think mod for mod a 4th gen will be quicker in a straight line, especially a MEVI equipped 4th gen, but stock for stock assuming MT maxima it's a drivers race.
The spec V isn't much of a straight line car, anyway. Try putting your 4th gen against one on a real track
#40
r u kidding me? This stupid thread got this many replies? I posts a. Thread asking for help ab8 my car and not one reply from 5th genners. This is just bull**** .
And what a stupid question is this? Spec v's are built to be great handling cars you can beat allday in a track not drag.
And what a stupid question is this? Spec v's are built to be great handling cars you can beat allday in a track not drag.