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I have a 1998 Maxima 5 spd. While ago I replaced my motor had only 40k on it when I bought it. Anyway while I was switching the motors out I also installed cattman headers with the Y-pipe, Unorthodox lightweight pulley, Light weight Fidanza flywheel, and Act street disc setup. After a while I got the car dynoed at Rev line motors in KansasCity don't know if you've heard of it or not. The numbers were pretty disappointing. I'll try to post the chart no scanner at the moment. It was 179.06 Max power and Max Torque was 181.39. It was on DynoJet. There are couple things I'm thinking about doing but at this moment I'm kinda confused.
1. Safc II or Vafc read up alot on that personal prefrence i guess with little bit here and there
2. JWT ECU with the Safc II to tune it even better my question with that is do I buy a new ECU from 95 Manual Maxima and send it to them or how does it work.
3. Or anyone else any ideas please help or atleast guide me in the right path.
I have a 1998 Maxima 5 spd. While ago I replaced my motor had only 40k on it when I bought it. Anyway while I was switching the motors out I also installed cattman headers with the Y-pipe, Unorthodox lightweight pulley, Light weight Fidanza flywheel, and Act street disc setup. After a while I got the car dynoed at Rev line motors in KansasCity don't know if you've heard of it or not. The numbers were pretty disappointing. I'll try to post the chart no scanner at the moment. It was 179.06 Max power and Max Torque was 181.39. It was on DynoJet. There are couple things I'm thinking about doing but at this moment I'm kinda confused.
1. Safc II or Vafc read up alot on that personal prefrence i guess with little bit here and there
2. JWT ECU with the Safc II to tune it even better my question with that is do I buy a new ECU from 95 Manual Maxima and send it to them or how does it work.
3. Or anyone else any ideas please help or atleast guide me in the right path.
See many Hondas at RevLine ??? I've heard stories....
You could spray the car. That seemed to work for me - or install a 3.5 L engine.
Really, what do you want to get done here? Those numbers aren't bad -
You could spray the car. That seemed to work for me - or install a 3.5 L engine.
Really, what do you want to get done here? Those numbers aren't bad -
Your numbers are rather low for your mods. What was the correction factor for the values you gave?
JWT + SAFC is definitely not the cheapest/most efficient of set-ups. Effective, yes, cost effective, no.
Have you thought of an EMU/EB? How about a VI or some sort?
JWT + SAFC is definitely not the cheapest/most efficient of set-ups. Effective, yes, cost effective, no.
Have you thought of an EMU/EB? How about a VI or some sort?
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Sorry I forgot to mention I don't anything yet no Safc no JWT Ecu or anything it was just dynoed for my own curiousity thats all I'm asking are those numbers okay so is something wrong with those numbers to me it seemed low no corrections of any sort has been made its a vq30de motor. I'm trying to find out what should be the logical thing to do and what is logical to do.
Sorry I forgot to mention I don't anything yet no Safc no JWT Ecu or anything it was just dynoed for my own curiousity thats all I'm asking are those numbers okay so is something wrong with those numbers to me it seemed low no corrections of any sort has been made its a vq30de motor. I'm trying to find out what should be the logical thing to do and what is logical to do.
No corrections at all? Your numbers don't really mean anything unless they're SAE corrected, as far as comparing to others.
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No corrections at all? Your numbers don't really mean anything unless they're SAE corrected, as far as comparing to others.
No corrections at all? Your numbers don't really mean anything unless they're SAE corrected, as far as comparing to others.
By corrections do you mean Dyno CF, or any sort of tuning?
If you don't have any sort of engine management (if you can even call the SAFC-II an EMS...), it wouldn't hurt to get one. No point in running another dyno if you don't make any corrections in the SAFC-II, it will be just about the same.
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Are your numbers SAE corrected or not?
By corrections do you mean Dyno CF, or any sort of tuning?
If you don't have any sort of engine management (if you can even call the SAFC-II an EMS...), it wouldn't hurt to get one. No point in running another dyno if you don't make any corrections in the SAFC-II, it will be just about the same.
By corrections do you mean Dyno CF, or any sort of tuning?
If you don't have any sort of engine management (if you can even call the SAFC-II an EMS...), it wouldn't hurt to get one. No point in running another dyno if you don't make any corrections in the SAFC-II, it will be just about the same.
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My goals with this car is pretty much to get the maximum output of these bolt on parts. I thought about EU but me and electronics don't get along and nobody in KansasCity can do it so I'm out of luck on that. I was thinking about getting Safc II or Vafc whatever works and atleast tune it on the dyno. Those are my only options N A.
If you have some extra $$, and want the most performance, get a VI, JWT, & then an AFC, but like I said, it wont be cheap.
If you don't get along with electronics, then an AFC wont really be your best friend. Before you proceed, get a VI.
If you don't get along with electronics, then an AFC wont really be your best friend. Before you proceed, get a VI.
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How much money are you talking about ? ? Thats fine lol whats a VI or if you can give me a price quote on all those things and tell me where I can get it from I guess I just asked for everything huh. Sorry please don't hate me . . .
ECU $595 (new)
SAFCII $180 (search hard)
I need to retract my statement.
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If you have some extra $$, and want the easiest performance,
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Alright I guess if anybody who knows somebody who can get me a VI to the point that all I have to do is take mine out put the VI in. Is it better to get the JWT ECU since it somes with the 7200 rev limiter and etc etc and is it going to plug into 1998 Harness or just get a SAFC II and go from there if anyone can help get those to products I'll greatly appreciate it just tell me the price or P.M. me and we'll go from there.
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its just the lower and upper but im sure you an talk him down a bit. but the lower doesnt have injectors so you woulod either have to buy a set of 5th gen injectors or use the current 4th gen lowerer which would require tapping new holes to fit the 5th gen upper in. but if you would use the 4th gen lower you wouldnt need a tune. so there are pros and cons with each setup
its just the lower and upper but im sure you an talk him down a bit. but the lower doesnt have injectors so you woulod either have to buy a set of 5th gen injectors or use the current 4th gen lowerer which would require tapping new holes to fit the 5th gen upper in. but if you would use the 4th gen lower you wouldnt need a tune. so there are pros and cons with each setup
Last edited by Product_Of_Korea; Mar 15, 2008 at 06:35 PM.
opps i didnt really read your thread totally. with eather setup its not going to be a easy just drop in. if you use the 5th gen lower you will have to remove swirl valves and plug up the holes from the rod. there is quite of bit of prep work to put in a 00vi. if your looking for more of a bolt on\plug and play i would go with a mevi. i know KRRZ350 use to sell them(00vi) for like 400 dollars ready to go.
and about ecu and what not i belive the jwt will hook up and work but i belive there is some kind modification that goes along with it. im not to fimilar with it so....... and yes a 7200k rev limit would be very benificial to any VI. cause a VI will produce power past the stock 6500k.
as for the safc, it is nice cause you can set the switch over for the VI at a certain rpm (Ex 5000k) and tune your car if you have a wideband.
the reason why i listed the whole VI EU and WB prices cause when you add up the other configuration VI+JWT+SAFC its around the same price for both of them but you would get alot more out of the VI+EU+WB and you would able to street tune your car. the down side to the EU is that you would need a laptop
hope that helped
and about ecu and what not i belive the jwt will hook up and work but i belive there is some kind modification that goes along with it. im not to fimilar with it so....... and yes a 7200k rev limit would be very benificial to any VI. cause a VI will produce power past the stock 6500k.
as for the safc, it is nice cause you can set the switch over for the VI at a certain rpm (Ex 5000k) and tune your car if you have a wideband.
the reason why i listed the whole VI EU and WB prices cause when you add up the other configuration VI+JWT+SAFC its around the same price for both of them but you would get alot more out of the VI+EU+WB and you would able to street tune your car. the down side to the EU is that you would need a laptop
hope that helped
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opps i didnt really read your thread totally. with eather setup its not going to be a easy just drop in. if you use the 5th gen lower you will have to remove swirl valves and plug up the holes from the rod. there is quite of bit of prep work to put in a 00vi. if your looking for more of a bolt on\plug and play i would go with a mevi. i know KRRZ350 use to sell them(00vi) for like 400 dollars ready to go.
and about ecu and what not i belive the jwt will hook up and work but i belive there is some kind modification that goes along with it. im not to fimilar with it so....... and yes a 7200k rev limit would be very benificial to any VI. cause a VI will produce power past the stock 6500k.
as for the safc, it is nice cause you can set the switch over for the VI at a certain rpm (Ex 5000k) and tune your car if you have a wideband.
the reason why i listed the whole VI EU and WB prices cause when you add up the other configuration VI+JWT+SAFC its around the same price for both of them but you would get alot more out of the VI+EU+WB and you would able to street tune your car. the down side to the EU is that you would need a laptop
hope that helped
and about ecu and what not i belive the jwt will hook up and work but i belive there is some kind modification that goes along with it. im not to fimilar with it so....... and yes a 7200k rev limit would be very benificial to any VI. cause a VI will produce power past the stock 6500k.
as for the safc, it is nice cause you can set the switch over for the VI at a certain rpm (Ex 5000k) and tune your car if you have a wideband.
the reason why i listed the whole VI EU and WB prices cause when you add up the other configuration VI+JWT+SAFC its around the same price for both of them but you would get alot more out of the VI+EU+WB and you would able to street tune your car. the down side to the EU is that you would need a laptop
hope that helped
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