Fuel Economy Mods? - E.g. Performance mods that could pay for themselves
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Fuel Economy Mods? - E.g. Performance mods that could pay for themselves
I'm driving a '98 Maxima SE Auto with only ~75k on the clock. I thought about modding it a bit when I got it in '03, but I figured I was happy with stock performance and would just put that money into whatever car I buy to replace the Maxima. But since I'm hanging onto the Maxima for the long haul, hopefully at least until 2020, I thought perhaps there may be some mods that could actually pay for themselves in fuel economy gains over this time period.
Any thoughts? I assume, say, a less restrictive exhaust setup would increase economy besides just boosting power? If so, by how much? Any other potentials?
Thanks
DanMaxima
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A32 '98 Maxima SE Auto, bone stock, sans sun roof wind deflector
Any thoughts? I assume, say, a less restrictive exhaust setup would increase economy besides just boosting power? If so, by how much? Any other potentials?
Thanks
DanMaxima
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A32 '98 Maxima SE Auto, bone stock, sans sun roof wind deflector
Last edited by DanMaxima; 03-04-2008 at 03:01 PM.
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I'm driving a '98 Maxima SE Auto with only ~75k on the clock. I thought about modding it a bit when I got it in '03, but I figured I was happy with stock performance and would just put that money into whatever car I buy to replace the Maxima. But since I'm hanging onto the Maxima for the long haul, hopefully at least until 2020, I thought perhaps there may be some mods that could actually pay for themselves in fuel economy gains over this time period.
Any thoughts? I assume, say, a less restrictive exhaust setup would increase economy besides just boosting power? If so, by how much? Any other potentials?
Thanks
DanMaxima
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A32 '98 Maxima SE Auto, bone stock, sans power windows deflector
Any thoughts? I assume, say, a less restrictive exhaust setup would increase economy besides just boosting power? If so, by how much? Any other potentials?
Thanks
DanMaxima
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A32 '98 Maxima SE Auto, bone stock, sans power windows deflector
#3
This is all you need:
http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=290
http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=290
#5
This is all you need:
http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=290
http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=290
#8
Hey, why not? I think 200k is extremely reasonable with this gen, and I'm averaging well less than the standard 12k a year, so I probably won't even hit 200k by then.
I started putting acetone at ~2oz/gal. a while back, but I was a bit nervous in doing so, and after I accidentally broke my graduated cylinder after only a few tanks I stopped. I'll have to make a ScanGauge2 my first investment and then try acetone again.
I'm already doing the usual takecareofyourcarstuff e.g. oil changes, tire maintenance et al.
DanMaxima
Last edited by DanMaxima; 03-04-2008 at 03:01 PM.
#9
I just made my own grounding kit and my gas mileage has gone up by at least 10%. Ive got over 160k as compared to your 75k though. So far thats been the most bang-for-the-buck mod I've ever done.
#12
This is all you need:
http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=290
http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=290
#13
Most people who put flow mods onto their car end up driving the car harder and burning more gas rather than taking it easy to get that .01mpg increase.
Dave
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This is all you need:
http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=290
http://forum.ecomodder.com/showthread.php?t=290
and im afraid those loosers are serious
to the OP: sell your car that requires premium and buy a civic and add some weight to it by gluing plastic panels in open spaces.. that and loose some fat
there is no way to drastically improve mpg on a 8-12 y/o V6 that uses 91
Are you for real ? where did you come up with that knowledge from ?
Last edited by andrei3333; 03-04-2008 at 05:13 PM.
#16
I don't think there are any mods that would pay for themselves. A y-pipe might help, but not enough to justify the cost of it in the first place. Lighter rims would be good, but again, you're likely going to spend more on them than you would gain without a long period of time elapsing. Unless you're willing to trade someone for their 15" sawblades or steelies, that would save you gas (and possibly make tires cheaper) and they'd probably be giving you money in the trade as well. Other than that, maybe a grounding kit (if you make your own)?
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If one member states a grounding kit improves MPG 10%, and LW wheels promote MPG from 12 -15%, is it safe to say that the 2 combined help up to 25%?
Of course, the grounding kit probably relies on how old/dirty your connections are. Also, the 12 -15% increase was on my 5.5 gen, where 15" wheels are not an option, and heavy 17" wheels came stock.
Oh yeah, my JWT ECU increased my mileage about 8-10%, but again, cost efficiency =
Of course, the grounding kit probably relies on how old/dirty your connections are. Also, the 12 -15% increase was on my 5.5 gen, where 15" wheels are not an option, and heavy 17" wheels came stock.
Oh yeah, my JWT ECU increased my mileage about 8-10%, but again, cost efficiency =
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#22
cruise control keeps a constant speed, no matter the RPMs or gear you are in.
its been my experience with my auto that my RPMs tend to sit at a higher constant rate with cc on - especially as it pertains to hills and irregular driving
with it off, i can control the amount of throttle based on current speed and gear. Yea there will be more gassing to achieve speed X, but you can find that comfertable low point on a gear on which to keep your foot to maintain a uniform speed.
just seems like the engine works harder to achieve that SET speed, whereas when you control it, you can adjust to the varying external factors that would affect it and accept the fluctuating speed.
#23
are you serious now!!!!? i tend to always use cruise, thinking that it will help me relax and save gas.cause i tend to have a heavy **** foot at times.
#24
I dont agree with you Rockart
If you wanna go at a certain speed it will take a certain RPM to achieve and keep that speed, what makes your foot different from CC ? nothing, CC has to keep the SAME rpm to keep that chosen speed
NOW: to the specifics into which you have dug into... yes to keep the same speed while going over a hill the rpm will have to increase... YOU must be feeling the sensation of KEEPING THE SAME FOOT PRESSURE ON THE PEDAL. The rpm will go down obviously... and NO CC does not have to work harder to keep a certain speed. Why would it ? its not like thee is a mechanical foot that takes power from the engine to press down on the pedal
What would cause the CC mechanism to rob the engine of some power in order to force it to raise the rpm to keep the same speed as you would with your foot ?
PS: i believe cruise control will save you gas because it keeps the same speed by varying the rpm, your foot will never be as precise as the electronic control on CC thus your rpm will rise and fall a lot more than it will with CC on.
If you wanna go at a certain speed it will take a certain RPM to achieve and keep that speed, what makes your foot different from CC ? nothing, CC has to keep the SAME rpm to keep that chosen speed
NOW: to the specifics into which you have dug into... yes to keep the same speed while going over a hill the rpm will have to increase... YOU must be feeling the sensation of KEEPING THE SAME FOOT PRESSURE ON THE PEDAL. The rpm will go down obviously... and NO CC does not have to work harder to keep a certain speed. Why would it ? its not like thee is a mechanical foot that takes power from the engine to press down on the pedal
What would cause the CC mechanism to rob the engine of some power in order to force it to raise the rpm to keep the same speed as you would with your foot ?
PS: i believe cruise control will save you gas because it keeps the same speed by varying the rpm, your foot will never be as precise as the electronic control on CC thus your rpm will rise and fall a lot more than it will with CC on.
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#27
Steady foot yields better mileage than cruise control. FACT. They have proved this using actual science.
I, personally cant possibly keep it steady... yes, I am one of those people that accelerates to 90 to pass and then slows back down to 80. Yes, I have a lead foot.
No, I dont use cc, but I probably should haha
I, personally cant possibly keep it steady... yes, I am one of those people that accelerates to 90 to pass and then slows back down to 80. Yes, I have a lead foot.
No, I dont use cc, but I probably should haha
#29
Originally Posted by LeVeL;ROCKART
look nmex, ive been around a lot longer than you and have considerably more posts/knowledge.
you should leave this discussion to the pros
you should leave this discussion to the pros
#30
using CC results in worse gas mileage?
I got about to 400 miles on a tank in a stock car using CC going to the MOUNTAINS(hill after hill after very steep hill and omg who built this) and i floored it i think twice too, and this is an MT where the revs dont drop to like 2K at 80, 3300rpm most of the trip. It tool 15 gallons to fill it again
Use CC it will help, check Ur tire pressure a tire that is a bit flat will seriously lower Ur mileage especially on the front, if U really want to save gas put it up to around 40psi u might gain and mpg or 2 but this is at the expense of the life of Ur tires depending on Ur driving habits
I got about to 400 miles on a tank in a stock car using CC going to the MOUNTAINS(hill after hill after very steep hill and omg who built this) and i floored it i think twice too, and this is an MT where the revs dont drop to like 2K at 80, 3300rpm most of the trip. It tool 15 gallons to fill it again
Use CC it will help, check Ur tire pressure a tire that is a bit flat will seriously lower Ur mileage especially on the front, if U really want to save gas put it up to around 40psi u might gain and mpg or 2 but this is at the expense of the life of Ur tires depending on Ur driving habits
#31
using CC results in worse gas mileage?
I got about to 400 miles on a tank in a stock car using CC going to the MOUNTAINS(hill after hill after very steep hill and omg who built this) and i floored it i think twice too, and this is an MT where the revs dont drop to like 2K at 80, 3300rpm most of the trip. It tool 15 gallons to fill it again
Use CC it will help, check Ur tire pressure a tire that is a bit flat will seriously lower Ur mileage especially on the front, if U really want to save gas put it up to around 40psi u might gain and mpg or 2 but this is at the expense of the life of Ur tires depending on Ur driving habits
I got about to 400 miles on a tank in a stock car using CC going to the MOUNTAINS(hill after hill after very steep hill and omg who built this) and i floored it i think twice too, and this is an MT where the revs dont drop to like 2K at 80, 3300rpm most of the trip. It tool 15 gallons to fill it again
Use CC it will help, check Ur tire pressure a tire that is a bit flat will seriously lower Ur mileage especially on the front, if U really want to save gas put it up to around 40psi u might gain and mpg or 2 but this is at the expense of the life of Ur tires depending on Ur driving habits
#32
40 PSI? Are you serious? Your tires are screaming 40 is too much for your tires. ~32 to MAYBE 35 is good.
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I saw it on tv a while back I think. They did a bunch of tests and determined that steady foot > cc (just barely, but still better). Come to think of it, I think JC mentions it when he drives an A8 800 miles on one tank, and we all know that man is always right
#40
Idk, I dont remember
I saw it on tv a while back I think. They did a bunch of tests and determined that steady foot > cc (just barely, but still better). Come to think of it, I think JC mentions it when he drives an A8 800 miles on one tank, and we all know that man is always right
I saw it on tv a while back I think. They did a bunch of tests and determined that steady foot > cc (just barely, but still better). Come to think of it, I think JC mentions it when he drives an A8 800 miles on one tank, and we all know that man is always right
regardless, the final point was that the car works harder to maintain a speed, rather than fluctuate based on environment.