The start of my E-Manage Ultimate project
03-13-2008, 01:31 AM
#1
The start of my E-Manage Ultimate project
Never realized how much stuff i actually needed for this project till now.
Main harness
Ecu Pigtail(1998 GLE)
Junk Ecu (1997)(Thanks to DJ42o96maX) The freaking post office lady put this in my freaking mail box and guess what i cant get the damn thing out!! I had to go to work today and of course the lady gets here pretty much right after i leave to go to work so i will have to wait till tommorow to get the damn ecu! Its funny but its not at the same time.
Emanage Ultimate
The following are some links and diagrams i found useful for this project
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ck0002/ecu.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu2.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu3.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu4.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu5.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu6.jpg
This is all the ecu pinouts by pin#,color of wire,and function. Sorry if its kinda blury.
Dandymax write up
http://www.vqpower.com/images/howto/...xEUWriteup.pdf
E-manage update
v2.16 / 2.16 / 1.09
E-Manage hardware manual
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ult...ual/index.html
E-Manage software manual
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ult...ual/index.html
Main harness
Ecu Pigtail(1998 GLE)
Junk Ecu (1997)(Thanks to DJ42o96maX) The freaking post office lady put this in my freaking mail box and guess what i cant get the damn thing out!! I had to go to work today and of course the lady gets here pretty much right after i leave to go to work so i will have to wait till tommorow to get the damn ecu! Its funny but its not at the same time.
Emanage Ultimate
The following are some links and diagrams i found useful for this project
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ck0002/ecu.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu2.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu3.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu4.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu5.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...k0002/ecu6.jpg
This is all the ecu pinouts by pin#,color of wire,and function. Sorry if its kinda blury.
Dandymax write up
http://www.vqpower.com/images/howto/...xEUWriteup.pdf
E-manage update
v2.16 / 2.16 / 1.09
E-Manage hardware manual
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ult...ual/index.html
E-Manage software manual
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ult...ual/index.html
Last edited by Product_Of_Korea; 03-30-2008 at 03:46 AM.
03-13-2008, 01:36 AM
#3
And my free laptop from my brother just got her 2 days ago
500mhz 64MB Ram 11gig hd
cant complain though it was free!!!Obviously this has one function and one function only EMANAGE!!!!!!!
I know the ecu harnesses are optional but it will hopefully make for a easier install
I will be taking apart my junk ecu tommorrow night and soldering it all up and will take pics of the process
500mhz 64MB Ram 11gig hd
cant complain though it was free!!!Obviously this has one function and one function only EMANAGE!!!!!!!I know the ecu harnesses are optional but it will hopefully make for a easier install
I will be taking apart my junk ecu tommorrow night and soldering it all up and will take pics of the process
Last edited by Product_Of_Korea; 03-30-2008 at 04:05 AM.
03-13-2008, 10:13 AM
#5
damn i wish i had a pigtail.... i have a feeling i will be on my back for a few hours very soon
What kind of connection are you gonna use lock? I'm just using two DB-25 pin connectors.... I already wired the Emanage harness but have yet to start the ECU
What kind of connection are you gonna use lock? I'm just using two DB-25 pin connectors.... I already wired the Emanage harness but have yet to start the ECU
03-13-2008, 03:57 PM
#6
03-13-2008, 06:08 PM
#8
Holy $hit. I am too drunk to edit this thread now, but when I get to work in the morning, if you toolbags have not cleaned up your own posts, I WILL, and there will be bans served hot and juicy to go on the side.
Any $hit-talking after my post gets an immediate ban.
Any $hit-talking after my post gets an immediate ban.
Last edited by phenryiv1; 03-14-2008 at 06:17 AM.
03-13-2008, 07:19 PM
#9
Still here lock(op)? Keep us updated.
03-13-2008, 09:53 PM
#10
haha wtf.^
You know now that i think about it, it's probably a really good idea to use the pigtail from an ECU cuz it took me like 2 hours to do the EU harness sitting at my desk....
anyone got one for a 97GLE auto
You know now that i think about it, it's probably a really good idea to use the pigtail from an ECU cuz it took me like 2 hours to do the EU harness sitting at my desk....
anyone got one for a 97GLE auto
03-13-2008, 10:39 PM
#12
I talked to bigpulve, and I am going to make a plug and play harness for him for the EU. If I do well at it, I might do some more if anyone is interested. Basically, you will plug one end into your ECU, one end into the ECU wire plug and the other into the EU.
03-13-2008, 10:54 PM
#13
Lmfao. wow i didnt think my eu install would cause that much of a controversy. 3 freaking pages wow!!! well 1st of all lets see the extended rev limiter itself is well worth it appose to lets say jwt. how much does a jwt even go for now??
All my life i have been messing with computers. I pretty much switched my hobby from computers to my maxima. So naturally why wouldnt i want pretty much full control off my ecu?? Its in my nature. and i get a laptop in my car. how sweet.
I contiplated getting a apexi and it just didnt appeal to me. i really want to rev to 7k so that was out of the picture. smt-6 im not to fimillar with and there isnt a good write up on it like dandymaxs.
I took apart the ecu right when i got back from work today. i will post pics later on in the night
All my life i have been messing with computers. I pretty much switched my hobby from computers to my maxima. So naturally why wouldnt i want pretty much full control off my ecu?? Its in my nature. and i get a laptop in my car. how sweet.
I contiplated getting a apexi and it just didnt appeal to me. i really want to rev to 7k so that was out of the picture. smt-6 im not to fimillar with and there isnt a good write up on it like dandymaxs.
I took apart the ecu right when i got back from work today. i will post pics later on in the night
03-13-2008, 11:27 PM
#15
ok, i'll bite, if bigpulves turns out good and the car starts i'll be your next customer.
03-14-2008, 03:04 AM
#16
man ol man. well i realized one thing tonight. that i really suck at soldering. i have probley done like 15 wires in two hours. Defently not a walk in the park. I had to redo 3 pins though cause the place i was suppose to solder at totally snapped off pretty much into the plastic. so i had to fix it. some before and after pics
Pretty much i used the heat of the soldering gun to melt and pulled the pin out then i put the pin back in to recessed it back a little bit so there was something to solder onto. that alone took me like 45 mins. But i think i messed up my tip of the gun by doing that cause now its all messed up and demented looking. I know the pics are not the greatest but i think i got it acrossed WHEN YOU DISSASEMBLE THE ECU DONT ROCK IT BACK AND FORTH TO GET IT LOOSE!!!!! Dumb mistake on my behalf!!
Pretty much i used the heat of the soldering gun to melt and pulled the pin out then i put the pin back in to recessed it back a little bit so there was something to solder onto. that alone took me like 45 mins. But i think i messed up my tip of the gun by doing that cause now its all messed up and demented looking. I know the pics are not the greatest but i think i got it acrossed WHEN YOU DISSASEMBLE THE ECU DONT ROCK IT BACK AND FORTH TO GET IT LOOSE!!!!! Dumb mistake on my behalf!!
03-14-2008, 03:50 AM
#17
soldering gun
Think i am going to call it a night and get a new gun tommorrow and go back at it
i finally read though this whole freaking thread. Man alot of edits. Would of been intresting to see the **** talking
Coremanx you are defently intitled to your own opinion. If you dont think a EU is worth the time or money unless boosted then thats cool. But to me its obviously worth it and no one is going to change my opinion. and whos to say next tax season i might just get a t3/t4 doubtfull but i would defently would love to.
Granted a window switch for my nitrous is realtivly cheap. I will use the EU instead. and will be able to monitor my car under spray which is a safety and not blowing my engine up thing. I think of it as a insurance policy on my engine if anything.
But in all honesty i could get the best mod out there that gives me 100hp gain or what ever. That wouldnt be the only reason why i bought the mod. I love a challenge and to learn the EU is a challenge and yes i will defently learn. Knowledge you cannot buy. But you can pass it along and help others down the road. It is what this whole forum is based off of. So in reality im not just Paying 600-700 dollars for just EU but accomplishment after a big project is priceless.
Just one last thing before i call it a morning\night. You should run that opinon past dandymax that would be intresting.
Think i am going to call it a night and get a new gun tommorrow and go back at it
i finally read though this whole freaking thread. Man alot of edits. Would of been intresting to see the **** talking
Coremanx you are defently intitled to your own opinion. If you dont think a EU is worth the time or money unless boosted then thats cool. But to me its obviously worth it and no one is going to change my opinion. and whos to say next tax season i might just get a t3/t4 doubtfull but i would defently would love to.
Granted a window switch for my nitrous is realtivly cheap. I will use the EU instead. and will be able to monitor my car under spray which is a safety and not blowing my engine up thing. I think of it as a insurance policy on my engine if anything.
But in all honesty i could get the best mod out there that gives me 100hp gain or what ever. That wouldnt be the only reason why i bought the mod. I love a challenge and to learn the EU is a challenge and yes i will defently learn. Knowledge you cannot buy. But you can pass it along and help others down the road. It is what this whole forum is based off of. So in reality im not just Paying 600-700 dollars for just EU but accomplishment after a big project is priceless.
Just one last thing before i call it a morning\night. You should run that opinon past dandymax that would be intresting.
Last edited by Product_Of_Korea; 03-14-2008 at 03:58 AM.
03-14-2008, 04:23 AM
#18
Is that a Radio Shack soldering gun? What's the wattage on that thing? Ideally you'd want somewhere around 15-30W when working with the ECU, so as not to burn the damn thing up.
Then again, you're working with a junk one (I presume) so it wouldn't matter that much.
Then again, you're working with a junk one (I presume) so it wouldn't matter that much.
03-14-2008, 04:48 AM
#19
its a wal-mart 5 dollar brand. i bought it to solder up the injectors from my 00vi swap. its a 30 watt. im going to go to radio shack and look around to get some ideas to make the solder job easier. defently going to get some aligator clips for a 3rd hand. i should of done that in the first place... what the hell was i thinking?
Last edited by Product_Of_Korea; 03-14-2008 at 05:39 AM.
03-14-2008, 06:19 AM
#20
Thanks to those who edited their posts and reported this thread.
You guys can disagree on whether this is a good/worthwhile mod, but try to keep it clean.
Just don't let it get out of control today, as I will most likely be drinking again tonight, plus my Mountaineers are on ESPN, so I won't be on the org tonight.
You guys can disagree on whether this is a good/worthwhile mod, but try to keep it clean.
Just don't let it get out of control today, as I will most likely be drinking again tonight, plus my Mountaineers are on ESPN, so I won't be on the org tonight.
03-14-2008, 08:42 AM
#21
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Less than five minutes with a small set of side cutters and you are done
03-14-2008, 08:45 AM
#22
Thanks to those who edited their posts and reported this thread.
You guys can disagree on whether this is a good/worthwhile mod, but try to keep it clean.
Just don't let it get out of control today, as I will most likely be drinking again tonight, plus my Mountaineers are on ESPN, so I won't be on the org tonight.
You guys can disagree on whether this is a good/worthwhile mod, but try to keep it clean.
Just don't let it get out of control today, as I will most likely be drinking again tonight, plus my Mountaineers are on ESPN, so I won't be on the org tonight.
No chance of me burning down my car....Lock. Looks like its coming along well....
03-14-2008, 09:06 AM
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Quite often, I will place a small glob of solder onto the pin. You then place the tinned wire on top and apply heat to the wire until the solder on the pin and the tinned wire solder flow together. You want your connections to be smooth and shiny. Dull, grey ones are referred to as "cold" and will break easily.
Do not apply too much heat or the solder will wick up under the wire insulation and make the wire prone to breaking.
It goes alot faster if you approach it in assembly line fashion.
1. Cut all your wires to the correct length
2. Strip the ends off of all your wires. A wire stripper with a length gauge really speeds up this process.
3. Tin all your wires.
4. Cut all your heat shrink to the correct length
5. Slide heat shrink back on all the wires far enough so that they do not "see" any heat from the soldering.
4. Clean pins and apply a glob of solder to each one that is needed.
5. Solder wire to pin. Do one entire row at a time.
6. Before starting next row, apply heat to shrink tubing.
03-14-2008, 09:08 AM
#25
Hmm.. the EU is not worth it for N/A.... 
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
Last edited by DandyMax; 03-14-2008 at 09:11 AM.
03-14-2008, 09:15 AM
#26
Hmm.. the EU is not worth it for N/A....
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
well thats that for all trash talkers, back that
03-14-2008, 09:24 AM
#27
Hmm.. the EU is not worth it for N/A....
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
03-15-2008, 08:04 AM
#30
Hmm.. the EU is not worth it for N/A....
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
Anyways I am blessed with 4 young boys(yes all mine) this weekend so i dont know if ill be able to get anything done. i might if i can be a insomniac which i pretty much am as you can tell when i post. But i went to radio shack and got myself a new soldering gun.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search
The clip that came with it is actually pretty nice it has quite the grip when i use it. so im sure it will be useful
03-15-2008, 08:53 AM
#32
no i know. i dont think i will need other ones but who knows it might help me out. i dont have real steady hands. Ive smoked for 10years so my hands are kinda shaky not to the point where it would prevent me from soldering but it is still affecting my soldering. Its funny cause i am real big into electronics. i have been since i was a young child. i was ripping apart my old 386 computer back when i was like 10 or 11. but i just never got into soldering that much. now i wish i would have
Last edited by Product_Of_Korea; 03-15-2008 at 08:58 AM.
03-15-2008, 11:08 AM
#33
I hear ya, well that's unfortunate. Those little tiny connectors on the back of the ecu connector look sketchy to me. I get real paranoid about wires coming loose or touching in a little area like that. I'm curious to see pics of after you've connected the wires to that part.
03-15-2008, 12:42 PM
#34
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That ecu header connector is the same one that patch harness manufacturers like Autosport use.
Here are a couple that I am working on as part of a current project.
The one on the left is a Z33 and the other is an A33.
03-16-2008, 02:23 AM
#38
well i did about a hours worth of soldering tonight using the method you discribed to me and it seem to be much easier that way i almost have half of the ecu done. hopefully if im not toatally worn out by tommorrow night i will finish.
03-16-2008, 02:41 AM
#39
Hmm.. the EU is not worth it for N/A....
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
Let's see, at minimum you get:
-extended redline
-15-20whp gain with timing and A/F tuning
-Air/fuel auto tune (ie closed loop tuning operation)
-2-step launch limiter for the track
-flat shift (ie power shift) limiter
-very good datalogger including WBO2 input
-ability to control all kinds of relays, devices such as fans, variable intake switchovers etc
-ability to compensate for different injectors, larger MAF's, even remove the MAF altogether and run speed-density
-Net result of all of the above, depending on mods on the car, can easily be half a second off the 1/4 mile time and a couple of MPH in trap speed, probably more if you didn't have VI control before.
And all of this for about $500 used or $600 new. Nah that's not worth it at all.
03-16-2008, 08:22 AM
#40