Car wont start after filling up gas...wtf?
#41
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Shoulda listened to post 4, coulda had it same day, I've got access to a consult I'm just bustin' your ***** though, I know it's far for a tow-in.
Without a consult or the light there's no way to tell if it's the nat's system or not. But are you sure that it didn't run for about three seconds and than stall? That would almost guarantee a nat's issue, however I don't think that is always the case. Definitly try the spare key first for sure.
Without a consult or the light there's no way to tell if it's the nat's system or not. But are you sure that it didn't run for about three seconds and than stall? That would almost guarantee a nat's issue, however I don't think that is always the case. Definitly try the spare key first for sure.
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#45
Tried spare key...didnt start...
I dont think its the immobilizer system cuz i think my car doesnt even have one...yes i have one of those ghetto SE-limited maximas.
The mechanic says its the ECU chip...So that could be the problem and may need to be replaced.
I dont think its the immobilizer system cuz i think my car doesnt even have one...yes i have one of those ghetto SE-limited maximas.
The mechanic says its the ECU chip...So that could be the problem and may need to be replaced.
#49
If you have a 99 you have an immobilizer as far as I'm concerned. BTW spare keys won't do jack ish if your immobilizer kicks in.
Damn it, have you even towed your car to Nissan yet? Seriously, your mechanic is just going to end up wasting both yours and his time.
Want me to give up on you? Keep on chatting/sipping long island ice teas with your mechanic and being without your Maxima.
Want a working car?
TAKE IT TO THE DAMN DEALERSHIP!
Damn it, have you even towed your car to Nissan yet? Seriously, your mechanic is just going to end up wasting both yours and his time.
Want me to give up on you? Keep on chatting/sipping long island ice teas with your mechanic and being without your Maxima.
Want a working car?
TAKE IT TO THE DAMN DEALERSHIP!
#50
ecus usually dont just go bad. i work at an acura dealer and we laugh evrytime a tech orders one. i would say 75% of the ecus we replace are still good. i think you mechanic is throwing a dart. why dont you take everyones advice and tow it to nissan so they can look at the immobilizer.
#51
ecus usually dont just go bad. i work at an acura dealer and we laugh evrytime a tech orders one. i would say 75% of the ecus we replace are still good. i think you mechanic is throwing a dart. why dont you take everyones advice and tow it to nissan so they can look at the immobilizer.
#53
Thanks for the help guys...Thats what probably gonna end up happening. Just gonna have to tow it to Nissan and get the immobolizer checked out.
I'll let ya'll know what it is.
I'll let ya'll know what it is.
#54
#55
Not trying to thread jack here at all. But quick Q, I worked at a Porsche/BMW shop for a spell and we had a couple 20-something year old BMW's come in that definitely had bad ECUs (not grounding injectors). And Mr. I'm-the-best-mechanic-ever was telling us nOObs that ECUs have a life of about 20-25 years. Is that complete crap?
#56
Not trying to thread jack here at all. But quick Q, I worked at a Porsche/BMW shop for a spell and we had a couple 20-something year old BMW's come in that definitely had bad ECUs (not grounding injectors). And Mr. I'm-the-best-mechanic-ever was telling us nOObs that ECUs have a life of about 20-25 years. Is that complete crap?
#57
I think xenomaxs' 75% estimate is a little generous actually.I am a "noob" here (great forum by the way) but I worked at a 10 bay shop for about 7 years that only worked on japanees cars, and out of all that time I can remeber replacing ECUs maybe 3 or 4 times. Me personally twice,and one of those was due to a overcharging alternator that actually fried just about every electric device in the car,which as chance would have it was a max.I do get a little leary when people start shouting ECU esspecially after they have already "guessed" at other parts.I just hope he gets it fixed before he spends too much more money.
good luck
good luck
#58
I think xenomaxs' 75% estimate is a little generous actually.I am a "noob" here (great forum by the way) but I worked at a 10 bay shop for about 7 years that only worked on japanees cars, and out of all that time I can remeber replacing ECUs maybe 3 or 4 times. Me personally twice,and one of those was due to a overcharging alternator that actually fried just about every electric device in the car,which as chance would have it was a max.I do get a little leary when people start shouting ECU esspecially after they have already "guessed" at other parts.I just hope he gets it fixed before he spends too much more money.
good luck
good luck
#60
i was just saying with some of the hacks at my dealer we are probably around that %. if you work at a dealer were everyone spends the time to diagnose a car properly than if you come up with a suspect ecu it probably is. guys at my place are more worried about making a buck so if your car is under warranty the guys i work with used their diagnostic dartboard.
unfortunately there are a lot of "parts changers" out there posing as mechanics,and it more often than not cost the customer alot of wasted money...I hate to see it.
note: if a tech seems like he is guessing...he probably is.
we'll see...
#62
hey guys, finally got the damn thing back today.
Well, it WAS the key/immobolizer thing...Thanks 99grnmaxgxe, u were quite helpful and persistent. I just can believe that somethiing liek this would actually happen.....How does a KEY get its memory erased so that the car no longer works...thas some ****!
Well, it WAS the key/immobolizer thing...Thanks 99grnmaxgxe, u were quite helpful and persistent. I just can believe that somethiing liek this would actually happen.....How does a KEY get its memory erased so that the car no longer works...thas some ****!
#64
holy cra this thread seriously freaking me out. what if my cars keys forget its code i will be screwed. i dont even have money to get a tow. also what if you have a remote starter with the keys already in the car would it start then or it wouldnt make a difference at all?
#65
hey guys, finally got the damn thing back today.
Well, it WAS the key/immobolizer thing...Thanks 99grnmaxgxe, u were quite helpful and persistent. I just can believe that somethiing liek this would actually happen.....How does a KEY get its memory erased so that the car no longer works...thas some ****!
Well, it WAS the key/immobolizer thing...Thanks 99grnmaxgxe, u were quite helpful and persistent. I just can believe that somethiing liek this would actually happen.....How does a KEY get its memory erased so that the car no longer works...thas some ****!
#66
yeah dude! well the mechanic did put a used ECU chip in....the car ran for a minute then shut off...so now i have a used ecu chip lying around.
how do u remove the system? do u think this will happen again?
how do u remove the system? do u think this will happen again?
#68
Are you serious? So u dont have a maxima at all?
It sucks, cuz i seriously just stopped to get gas. the key were still IN the ignition! I didnt know this was a problem at first, but it can happen to anyone, anywhere!
It sucks, cuz i seriously just stopped to get gas. the key were still IN the ignition! I didnt know this was a problem at first, but it can happen to anyone, anywhere!
#72
Dude i i had the same issue moth ago car did not start and it was because of the key which lost codes to the computer on the car, it was resolved by reprogramming the keys or if they still wont work means the chips inside the keys are dead and you have to buy a new key, im pretty sure thats the issue, if you have any questions feel free to ask!
#74
Dude i i had the same issue moth ago car did not start and it was because of the key which lost codes to the computer on the car, it was resolved by reprogramming the keys or if they still wont work means the chips inside the keys are dead and you have to buy a new key, im pretty sure thats the issue, if you have any questions feel free to ask!
I've yet to see a chipped key fail in any sort of way. Usually if the programming won't take, it's the NATS IMMU unit that is faulty.
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