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So I bled the clutch, upper and lower, new Dot4 Syn

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Old May 11, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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So I bled the clutch, upper and lower, new Dot4 Syn

and still feels kinda the same, maybe a little bit better, before it was kinda spongy, not it is a little firm but very light... I miss the old days when it was nice and stiff, felt more like a race car. lol

ever since the day i adjusted my clutch, everything went down hill.. heh
Old May 11, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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What do you mean when you say you "adjusted it"?
Old May 11, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Coremanx
I miss the old days when it was nice and stiff,
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Old May 11, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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a......... race car????
Old May 11, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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^ race cars have very hard clutches, do to them massive TQ and HP, So their cluthes and pressure plates need to be pretty stiff, I mean, obv our cars are not race cars... lol, but u know what I mean, I just want my clutch to be stiffer again to have some feel in it.
Old May 11, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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So the point your getting at is....








Sorry but I have no idea what feedback you are looking for in this thread.
Old May 11, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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I kinda know what u mean. I installed my clutch masters stage 1 clutch and fidanza flywheel today and I swear the clutch pedal is softer than before and I kinda miss the stiffness of the pedal.
Old May 11, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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it could be a number of things. how old is your pressure plate? the springs in the springs could be showing their age.

What it sounds like to me, and the more likely problem is that there is air in the system. This could be from doing a bad job at bleeding the lines or bad gaskets at the master or slave cylinder.

I had a mushy clutch when i first bought my 5th gen and the problem was the gasket on the slave cylinder. I replaced both the slave and master just to cover my bases and now the clutch feels nice and stiff

try bleeding it again and if there are still bubbles, assuming you knew what you were doing the first time around then your problem is the master or slave cylinder
Old May 12, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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The clutch springs should never change stiffness with age. However changing from one clutch to another can have a substantial difference in feel.

You definitely can't have air in the lines. Bleed with a helper to be sure.

I'd rebuilt ro replace the clutch master/slave and see if that solves it. If the old clutch fluid wasn't rusty a rebuild is not out of the question. Clutch hydraulics are a common issue on these cars.
Old May 12, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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well its factory clutch and its due soon, not really slipping at all when it is fully engaged but I can get it to slip and smell when racing or just letting it go while in higher gears.

The pressure plate can show its age, true, but they don't loose that much Tensil stregth after age. It just seems to be lack of pressure, but it seems to be ok now, its just light feeling. I was thinking that I am not getting all the pressure I need or something... Possible SS lines may fix? Or maybe a new clutch master cly might?

Other then that, no real issues, I can shift fine it just feels like a newer cars where the clutch almost feels like a gas pedal.. :-/

and I had someone help me, but she kept pumping mad fast. lol... And, it almost seemed that when I turned the valve it was not really strong like brakes are. Then again, Clutch pressure is no were near 400-500lbs like brakes are... lol
Old May 12, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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You can't have them pump fast. Just press it down steady so you can open/close the bleeder on the downstroke *only*. The helper has to warn you before the pedal hits the floor. The moment they lift the pedal with the bleeder open air gets sucked in. So it's quite possible you have air in the lines.

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Old May 12, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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They got to lift pedal with the foot anyway, I know she didnt lift until I instruckted her too, also Motrovates write up says to open the valve and shut it quick before all the pressure squirts out that way the air don't back inside, I didnt do that on the bottom one because my wrench was a bit longer then i wanted.

Also, his write ups are kinda wrong with tools, needed for the job...lol
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