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Old Nov 8, 2001 | 07:06 AM
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Clear Coat ??

I recently had a little body work done to my car. After I picked my car up, a couple of days later I noticed that my rear door was darker than the front. I questioned the owner of the shop and he said that there was very little paint used and the reason for the darker color was the clearcoat which brouht out the original color. He says the only way to fix this problem is to clearcoat the whole car $$$$$. Is there any other solution???



Pebble biege is tough to match is what I was told..
Old Nov 8, 2001 | 09:19 AM
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Re: Clear Coat ??

Originally posted by Kydave
I recently had a little body work done to my car. After I picked my car up, a couple of days later I noticed that my rear door was darker than the front. I questioned the owner of the shop and he said that there was very little paint used and the reason for the darker color was the clearcoat which brouht out the original color. He says the only way to fix this problem is to clearcoat the whole car $$$$$. Is there any other solution???



Pebble biege is tough to match is what I was told..
how much darker? was it the bodyman that told you pebble beige is hard to match? it sounds like he didn't match the color. i repainted several areas on my '72, which was repainted several years ago with base/clear, and the paint matches perfectly even with the several coats of clear i put on it.
Old Nov 8, 2001 | 09:34 AM
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Yes, it was the bodyman that told me. I would say that it's a shade or two off the original color. Personally I think he's trying to avoid doing it over.
Old Nov 8, 2001 | 09:46 AM
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screw him! i've gotten the same runaround from body shops before. one or two shades off is ridiculous. you might want to talk to or bring it to a couple other shops and get their opinion on it before you bring it back, but it sounds like he's full of *&^!
Old Nov 8, 2001 | 09:57 AM
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Yeah it p's me off also. I'm getting that second opion later today. Thanx..
Old Nov 8, 2001 | 11:06 AM
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Speaking from experiance and having 2 brothers with autobody shops, It's not easy to match colors perfectly. Most shops use a computer paint mixing system. You give your color code to the computer and it spits out the mixture. You cannot blend paints with this system. Also the brand of paint which is used will produce different results. Especially in the clearing process.

However, if your color match is really bad, then you should complain a little. Keep in mind that doing the job over might even produce worse results. The body shop may just paint over it again. You will wind up with so much paint on the door that it may crack. The only way to do the job correctly would be to "DA" the old paint off, repaint the area and blend the new paint into the surrounding pannels. By blending you simply "OVERSPRAY" some paint on the pannels. Next you have to clear all the panels which have had paint applied. In other words, just doing a driver side door could result in painting the door, blending the front fender and rear door, and clear coating the fender and both doors. Thats a lot of work, but the result is color that flows much better.
Old Nov 8, 2001 | 11:28 AM
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Speaking from experiance and having 2 brothers with autobody shops, It's not easy to match colors perfectly. Most shops use a computer paint mixing system. You give your color code to the computer and it spits out the mixture. You cannot blend paints with this system. Also the brand of paint which is used will produce different results. Especially in the clearing process.

However, if your color match is really bad, then you should complain a little. Keep in mind that doing the job over might even produce worse results. The body shop may just paint over it again. You will wind up with so much paint on the door that it may crack. The only way to do the job correctly would be to "DA" the old paint off, repaint the area and blend the new paint into the surrounding pannels. By blending you simply "OVERSPRAY" some paint on the pannels. Next you have to clear all the panels which have had paint applied. In other words, just doing a driver side door could result in painting the door, blending the front fender and rear door, and clear coating the fender and both doors. Thats a lot of work, but the result is color that flows much better.
blending works sometimes, but if kydave's Max is a couple of shades off like he said it is, blending won't solve the problem. for example, the prior owner of my Max had the right fender repainted 'cuz of a minor accident and apparently the bodyman tried blending it into the door and it is pretty "obvious" what he was "trying" to do. like you said, it's not easy to match, but body shops shouldn't give their customers a line of crap instead of telling them the truth as is the case with kydave's situation.
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Originally posted by 95rubygxe


blending works sometimes, but if kydave's Max is a couple of shades off like he said it is, blending won't solve the problem. for example, the prior owner of my Max had the right fender repainted 'cuz of a minor accident and apparently the bodyman tried blending it into the door and it is pretty "obvious" what he was "trying" to do. like you said, it's not easy to match, but body shops shouldn't give their customers a line of crap instead of telling them the truth as is the case with kydave's situation.
I agree 100% and it really shouldn't be that much off. These systems are pretty accurate. The guy should have been straight up with him about it. Sounds like he's just trying to get out of doing the job over.
Old Nov 8, 2001 | 03:37 PM
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Keep in mind that doing the job over might even produce worse results.

This is the answer that I got at two other body shops today. Their suggestion was also to get clearcoat added to the rest of the car to match. Although I must admit that the car looks alot newer in the treated areas.. Thanks Guys!!
Old Nov 9, 2001 | 04:49 AM
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oooh kkaaay. i guess i would've had to have seen it. anyway, good luck with the clearcoat job.
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