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How to lower car like 3-4 inches budget way???

Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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How to lower car like 3-4 inches budget way???

I want to know what you guys know about springs that give you that(3-4 inches) i know about coilovers but i think its too expensive where i can get lowering without paying too much.
Right now im running stock springs with kyb shocks.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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there is a member on here known as euromax, he is selling his airbags for $600
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Just cut the springs in half and you'll be good to go
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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cut tein springs maybe
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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there is no way to do it properly and cheaply. the closest way would be to buy sprints or s techs and cut coils but this is not recommended for a number of reasons. it messes up suspension geometry (unavoidable with any type of low drop) as well as limiting strut travel and giving you unpredictable spring rates. you will also most likely run through axles quicker because of the harsh angles, which will cost you money and time in the long run.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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DONT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!!!!

Thats an extreme no-no, but the only way ur going to get a really low drop is to go with coilovers. look in the FS section there were some ground controls that just got sold for $200
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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yea dont cut them... heat them up it works better
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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cheapest way i've seen to completely slam your ride is to take the wheels off.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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What blackonblackaction said. Even if you did somehow lower it 3-4 inches your axles will be blowing left and right, which will get expensive and/or annoying to keep changing them.

And honestly I think we only have about 2.5-3" (if that) of compression travel from the factory AFTER trimming the bump stops (1.5-2" before, tops), so in order to even get the car lower than that you will need to shorten the struts which the only way I know of doing involves buying Konis.

If you can handle the geometry issues and replacing the axles (cheapo lifetime warranty axles from Autozone maybe?) every month, then your best bet would be coilovers.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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tein s techs are rated 2.2" drop and rest on the bump stops. anything short of coilovers or shorter konis will keep you from going that low.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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bump stops are for pansies.

everyone's probably right though... short of full tap coilovers you might not be able to go that low period.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Buy a differnent car, Porsche perhaps or a Ferrarri. That will get you the drop you want.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Crusher103
DONT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!!!!
as crusher said and many others did as well...i would say get coilovers and a body kit that will give you the drop you want... oh and theres no cheap right way of lowering your car to that per say level. save and do it right.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Consider smaller tires combined with lowering springs. These worn 215/45 tires got me an extra 1" drop. Other sizes can get you as much as 1.3".
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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^^^ i think this is a good way. But dont go cutting s-techs. Or just save up and do the coilovers, i heard its worth the pennyzzzzzz.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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no cheap solution without sacrificing quality and safety..

there are ghetton ways:

heating your springs
cutting springs
old school spring clamps ( clamping 2 "coils" together on the spring)..
but all the above, I would NEVER recommend..

like they say, you want to play? the pay
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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lol i got some K sport springs u can have LOL.. and some struts.. some blown.. all for 100 LOL
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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4" lol.

3" on coilovers leaves virtually no suspension travel. 4" is borderline impossible and would be completely undriveable unless even with coilovers.

This is 2.75" on GCs with AGXs and bumpstops cut to 1/4 of their original size - and it was pretty uncomfortable. These tires were undersized @ 235-40-17 instead of 235-45-17 in the first picture.



Old Sep 6, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Thanks for the input guys wery helpfull
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
4" lol.

3" on coilovers leaves virtually no suspension travel. 4" is borderline impossible and would be completely undriveable unless even with coilovers.
lets keep the information correct. 3-4" may be impossible and/or undriveable on single tap or sleeve coilovers, but can be done on full tap coilovers without compromising suspension travel. that is not to say other aspects won't be extremely affected, but it is not impossible.
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Possible or not, it's patently stupid.
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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why go through all that trouble of springs etc? Wouldnt getn an air ride/ air bag system give him the drop he wants? I dont think 4" would be very good drivability but 3" maybe if done right.
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Possible or not, it's patently stupid.
lets not mix fact with opinion, especially arrogant blanket ones. the only thing stupid is to go into it without understanding of the consequences. once the pros vs. cons have been evaluated it is up to the owner of the car to make an informed decision for or against.
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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lol......lol
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Possible or not, it's patently stupid.
Hey now, be nice.

Can't say I disagree, anything where the wheels are tucking just looks ridiculous IMO. What looks best is the wheel flush with the fender, maybe half a finger gap.
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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LOL at trying to go that low for cheap.
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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This is pretty much as low GC's and shortened konis go. I was running Bens rear mounts and B14 AGX in the rear. That combo is about 2.5" shorter than a stock mount and A32 struts. They were all the way up. The fronts were just about on the bumps. I think I could have squeezed some more, but man it was the worst ride. With 3rd gen reds you could go much lower.


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Hey JSutter,

Approximately how much lower are you than stock? What size tires are on the car?

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Before a drop




This low enough?



those are 19x8.5 with 225/40/19's on them so they are a lil undersized.

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Originally Posted by kzoosho
This low enough?



those are 19x8.5 with 225/40/19's on them so they are a lil undersized.
Actually, that's a bit oversized.
Old Sep 6, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Sitting pretty nice thar bruh
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Sitting pretty nice thar bruh
Me? I need to raise it back up. My downpipe is dragging on the ground.
Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 4DRASSASSIN
Hey JSutter,

Approximately how much lower are you than stock? What size tires are on the car?
Im not exactly sure. That only lasted a few days that low. I would guess 3" maybe a bit more. The wheels are 235/40/18.
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
lets keep the information correct. 3-4" may be impossible and/or undriveable on single tap or sleeve coilovers, but can be done on full tap coilovers without compromising suspension travel. that is not to say other aspects won't be extremely affected, but it is not impossible.
i have no idea what single tap or full tap coilovers are.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
i have no idea what single tap or full tap coilovers are.
Single-tap is preload adjustable only a la ground controls, and full tap is preload and separate ride height adjustable, so you can effectively shorten the damper body as well as adjust ride height.
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OK I see what you mean.
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So many bad suggestions in here, cut springs, heated springs, and super low porfile tires with an exteme drop.
Why sacrafice the ride quality just for a look? With any of the mentioned above setups the ride would surely suffer.
Do it right or dont do it at all. If your looking for an aggressive drop and look go with a nice set of coilovers. If your looking for just a nice looking lowered stance then just pair up some nice springs and shocks.
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
So many bad suggestions in here, cut springs, heated springs, and super low porfile tires with an exteme drop.
Why sacrafice the ride quality just for a look? With any of the mentioned above setups the ride would surely suffer.
Do it right or dont do it at all. If your looking for an aggressive drop and look go with a nice set of coilovers. If your looking for just a nice looking lowered stance then just pair up some nice springs and shocks.
VERY bad suggestions on here. what you want to do is wait and save up for an aftermarket spring/shock combo or actual CO's. dont be cheap. youll regret it later.
the lowest dropping spring are either Sprint or Tein S-techs but be warned they are setup with very soft spring rates.
Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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my 4th gen was on ground control and kyb's and the ride got bad really quick.Plus the axles were at bad angles so i am sure that if u lower to 4 inches but cutting springs or whatever you would definately be changing your axles often if you drive on bad roads

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